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Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2000, 09:07:00 AM
Heres my first impression after flying it for 10 hours over the week-end.
-Even with Wells FM added, they still seem mushy.
-FR sucks even on medium with PIII-550,128megs ram, 32 meg TNT2.
-Clouds suck, HT has got clouds down to an art, MS does not.
-FR REALLY takes a hit with cockpit on, there's an optional 'low res' cockpit, but its much too dark to be of any use.

On a scale from 1-10, I'd give it a 6 overall.

Anyone have any "add-on" cockpits to help increase FR?
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: blur on October 30, 2000, 09:43:00 AM
Good stuff
- external views of a/c look good
- looks like gun camera footage when you shoot at and hit an enemy a/c
- terrain looks nice

Bad stuff
- have to turn graphic details way down to get smooth motion, while I can get fast frame rates with higher graphic settings it gets very "jerky" (PIII 866, Geforce 2)
- 2D cockpit takes a 40-50 fps hit!
- 3D cockpit sucks as gauges aren't clear and views aren't adjustable
- FM is very mushy with little or no rudder response

CFS2 will probably make the arcade sim pilots happy but lets face it folks, Aces High has spoiled us.

I give this a 5 out of 10.
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: Eagler on October 30, 2000, 09:57:00 AM
FM stinks - even with Wells patch

Can't tell speed as there isn't a wind noise as there is in AH

Slight hesitation when bullets hit or enemy plane takes damage (split second freeze)

Online thru the zone, not much competition. Kind of kill the man with the ball once you start shooting some down, you become a marked man.

Nice eye candy, but FM doesn't compare to AH nor does the overall camaraderie (online wise).

Limited planes, no FW  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)

views (in cockpit) limited

not much change from CFS 1 except for eyecandy/ cpu requirements...

Eagler

Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2000, 10:33:00 AM
More stuff as I think of it...
-Sound sucks, as mentioned above, no wind, no stall horn, etc etc.
-No auto pilot, no auto climb, etc.
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: F4UDOA on October 30, 2000, 10:55:00 AM
It sucks.

I was waiting for the "Janes WW2 fighters" types grapics which they don't have. Janes looks as if watching a movie at times it's so good.

Have you seen the new Il-2 screenshots? They are magnificent. It makes me wonder if I will ever see a Pacific war fighter simm that is as good as European Air war or Janes.

So far AH is the best of the Pacific plane set flight simms.
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: Mighty1 on October 30, 2000, 01:54:00 PM
I kinda like it.

The 38 FM sucks.

It's a nice diversion if you need to get away for a couple of minutes.

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The New Baby Harp Seals
"Come try to club THIS Seal"
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2000, 02:11:00 PM
Speaking of P38's, I noticed that the P38F in CFS2 has torque to the left, I thought those props countered out the torq? (one spins left, one spins right?)
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: -lynx- on October 31, 2000, 03:22:00 AM
You shouldn't have torque on multi-engines anyway?

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13 Sqn RAF
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: -aper- on October 31, 2000, 06:48:00 AM
Good stuff

- You can hear engine sounds of other planes if they are very close to you.
- Your plane can be damaged by the close explosion of enemy plane.
- You can see bullet holes in your wings  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
- You should open your canopy before bailing out  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
- There are some interesting things in behaviour of damaged planes.

Bad stuff

- All the other things
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: RAM on October 31, 2000, 07:13:00 AM
Good stuff: (fer me)

I haven't bought it yet (and with the reports I read here, prolly never will   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif))


Bad stuff: (again, for me  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif))

Seems beautiful...but eyecandy doesnt make a sim better in playability (well not that much   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif))

Hehehe   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 10-31-2000).]
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: Ripsnort on October 31, 2000, 07:40:00 AM
That sums it up for me Ram, wish I had bought the 'fantasy' game 'Crimson Tide'...Warbirds, Aces High has spoiled me for FM's, etc.
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: Maverick on October 31, 2000, 12:21:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by -lynx-:
You shouldn't have torque on multi-engines anyway?



Not true unless they are counter rotating. If both props rotate in the same direction they both contribute torque forces in the same direction. If turing opposite directions the torque is canceled out.

Mav
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: Biggles on October 31, 2000, 04:44:00 PM
I bought "Crimson Tide". It's kinda cool, a good diversion from regular flight sims. Nice graphics. A better choice than CFS2, IMHO, because AH has CFS2 beat hands-down.

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Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: SR on October 31, 2000, 06:30:00 PM
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Got to advanced weather and set up thunderstorm with all the extras . If you have not tried this your missing out on some thing nice . Remember you can set up more than one cloud layer type and wind effect etc .

SR

[This message has been edited by SR (edited 11-01-2000).]
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: CavemanJ on October 31, 2000, 08:10:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
That sums it up for me Ram, wish I had bought the 'fantasy' game 'Crimson Tide'...Warbirds, Aces High has spoiled me for FM's, etc.

You mean Crimson Skies?
It's ok.  Really arcadish with the kites to choose from, but an interesting storyline  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Got some real nice graphics in it too.  Once fight at a railroad bridge is outstanding, holes in the rock you can fly through, loops over the bridge trying to get the bad guy chasing you slam into it  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

It's a nice break.  Some BFM applies, but it's deffinately an arcade/fantasy game.
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: Rickenbacker on November 02, 2000, 09:33:00 AM
I like CFS2 (reviewied it for a swedish mag and gave it a little over 90%). Compared to AH it is, naturally, crap. Compared to most any offline sim, though, it's one of the best combat simulations ever.

Really really stupid stuff:
- You hear other planes fly by your plane.
- You can't turn off the text radio (that I could find anyway).
- The installation is 1GB, yet still needs the CD in the drive.

Cool stuff:
- The interface looks fresh, with the cartoony graphics and good music.
- Great graphics, sounds, radio chatter.
- Decent FM's, the best I've seen in any sim outside AH/WB. First MS sim you can actually spin in.
- Your japanese wingmen speak japanese, not heavily accented english  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).



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                -ISAF-
the Independent Swedish Air Force
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: Replicant on November 05, 2000, 05:32:00 PM
Well, I ordered it today so I'll see what it's like.  Nice to have for an easy break I guess.

What I'd like to know is are there downloadable planes for CFS2 (not old CFS ones)?

Regards

'Nexx'
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: mason22 on November 06, 2000, 02:10:00 PM
eye candy....for screen shots, is the gist of it.

views suck. it's like flying in a tunnle with a zooming telescope. FR choppy. anytime a new graphic (ie water splash, or explosions) is loaded it pauses.

we are spoiled with AH....and i like it!!!!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

i may entertain the thought of trying out IL-2 Sturmovich. it will have up to 32 multi players. which for me, means only 31 people that can kill me instead of 100!!

but still...i think i'm sticking around here for a loooooooooooooong time.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Post your opinion of CFS2
Post by: wells on November 06, 2000, 09:39:00 PM
I've been waiting for the next generation Pacific sim for a long time, so I bought it...even though CFS1 was very disappointing.  Compared to CFS1, it is better.  The 3d models are really very good, wheels turn, shocks work, cowl flaps and canopies open, wings fold, engine coughs out smoke at startup, textures are very good, the planes actually look like worn metal and not just painted.  I love landing on carriers...they pitch and roll in the water (which one can apparently set up in the .cfg file for the ship).  Whereas CFS1 used models that were 3 times too large, CFS2 learned from that mistake and everything appears to be proper scale and you can still make out aircraft detail at over 1000 yrds, even in low res (I'm limited to 800 res with a 25" TV).  

As for flight models, they are a little bit better than CFS1, but they lack in feel.  Compression effects are lacking in most planes, especially the zekes.  The flaps make no lift, so carrier takeoffs with a full load of bombs or drop tanks is impossible.  The Betty flies like a fighter, being 50 mph too fast and the gun data is all porked in favor of the Japanese.

I was disappointed in the 2d cockpits.  Since they are bitmaps, I don't know why they just didn't take a screenshot of the 3d cockpit, save it as a .bmp and use that for a 2d cockpit.  I was disappointed that only 7 planes or so are flyable, while twice as many are AI planes.  Although they can be made flyable, they have no 3d or 2d cockpits...waste of a good plane model if you can't fly it!  It's fun enough for an offline sim.  Apparently, there are no patches planned.  Why patch when the community can do it for you?  I'm disappointed that a company such as MS should appear to have a resource problem.