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Title: Skuzzy! X800
Post by: bandit752 on June 20, 2006, 10:35:05 AM

I have a x800 and think I screwed something up here!
I was using the calayst 6.5 drivers
I installed the Omega drivers 3.8
The orginal problem was a shuttering or flickering in the video
during a battle the new drivers didnt help but I think that the gameplay is
more stable! Mt Frame rates are a steady 74-75. My refresh rate on the the monitor is 85Hz.
I am also using dual monitors which I known AH doesnt support, but I did
like the cloned two monitor mode in the calayst 6.5 drivers.


I understand tha tyou have a X800 ATI card also! What drivers did you use
and what settings do you have?

My Hardware:
 
System Manufacturer: Gateway
       System Model: W3410
               BIOS: Phoenix - Award BIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+,  MMX,  3DNow,
~2.2GHz
             Memory: 1534MB RAM

Title: Skuzzy! X800
Post by: Roscoroo on June 20, 2006, 01:26:46 PM

use the 4.12 omega's or Cats

two monitors wont work in AH btw .

Title: Skuzzy! X800
Post by: AKDogg on June 20, 2006, 01:42:04 PM

4.12 doesn't support X800 fully. they are to old.  I using 6.5 right now with no problems.  AMD 64 3200+  with 2 gig of ram and Nforce 3 MB.  Video card I have is also the X800XL 256 meg and I run at 1280x1024x32 at 4xAA at 512 textures.  Avg FR is 50-75.  Very rarely does it go below 40 fps.

Title: already loaded 3.8
Post by: bandit752 on June 20, 2006, 01:45:44 PM

Hi!
I already loaded the Omega's 3.8.252 drivers.
I been told that un-installing them, even with driver cleaner is very
difficult.
I do, see a difference, in the more stable game play! Except!
The shuttering during a heavy battle is still there!
With all the settings in the Tool Tray! What are the correct settings
for AH!

Title: Skuzzy! X800
Post by: Skuzzy on June 20, 2006, 02:15:31 PM

Actually, the 4.12's came out after the X800 cards did.  I have an X800XT and use the 4.12's.  I will not move up to the later drivers as ATI has dropped the control panel in favor of the Catalyst Control Center, which requires .NET be activated.

Title: 4.12
Post by: bandit752 on June 20, 2006, 02:19:52 PM

I have the Omega 3.8.252 drivers
I have the framework.net installed, because as you said using the control panel.
Should I use the 4.12 drivers and if so, where can you download them?
Can you still use the ati control panel?
So, you dont need the framework using the 3.8 or the 4.12??

Confused here???

Title: Skuzzy! X800
Post by: Skuzzy on June 20, 2006, 02:32:49 PM

The ATI Control Panel does not require the .NET framework.  The Catalyst Control Center does.  All the 4.x drivers use the ATI Control Panel.  Many of the early 5.x drivers have the option of using either Control Panel, or Control Center.

4.12's are still available from ATI's site in the archive section.

Title: Skuzzy! X800
Post by: 38ruk on June 20, 2006, 09:46:45 PM

Here is the omega number for the 4.12's . These were the best for my older X800 pro setup .  

 Radeon Omega Drivers 2.5.97a (Catalyst 4.12)

Title: 4.12's work great
Post by: bandit752 on June 26, 2006, 11:23:46 AM

Thank you for suggesting the 4.12 drivers for my video card which is the
X800 ATI. At that Omega Site if I wanted to use the span mode (stretched mode) I can stull use the 4.12 drivers and the CCC panel!

My goal was trying to stretch a single monitor across three screens.
I found a device called Matrox Triple head to go!! Very priceyyy!! almost $300.00!!!

Thanks Again!

Title: Skuzzy! X800
Post by: buzkill on June 26, 2006, 01:42:20 PM

you can dl the later drivers without the control center...it's why cat 5.3 works on my 9600xt

Title: Skuzzy! X800
Post by: SNO on June 26, 2006, 04:54:29 PM

Skuzzy, I looked at the ATI site and couldn't find the 4.12's the archive only goes back to the 5 series that I could find, am I missing it somewhere? Thanks

Title: Skuzzy! X800
Post by: Skuzzy on June 27, 2006, 06:39:02 AM

At the end of Page 3 of the "Previously released drivers" page is a link to drivers released before the 5 series.

Title: Site for 4.12 drivers
Post by: bandit752 on June 27, 2006, 07:31:13 AM

hello!
I downloaded the drivers for my x800
This is the location:
http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=14

I used the 2.5.97a (4.12)
(I dont know what the difference in the beta version was)??

I havent tried it yet, But I was told that I can still used the Omgea drivers
and run the CCC if I wanted the Options on that....

Thanks Again
for the help,,

Title: Skuzzy! X800
Post by: Skuzzy on June 27, 2006, 09:02:32 AM

Do not use the Catalyst Control Center.  Use the ATI Control Panel for optimum performance.

Title: Gottcha!
Post by: bandit752 on June 27, 2006, 09:07:54 AM

Thanks for the reply! I was concerned about using the CCC!
But with your advice I will use the tools with the 4.12
the only reason why I did want the CCC, was the ability to have a
wide screen with a future wide LCD monitor!

Title: Skuzzy! X800
Post by: SNO on June 27, 2006, 07:39:23 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Skuzzy
At the end of Page 3 of the "Previously released drivers" page is a link to drivers released before the 5 series.

Wow, must open eyes!!!!  Not sure how I didn't see that, thanks for the nudge

Title: Problem with 4.12 drivers
Post by: bandit752 on July 03, 2006, 07:45:45 AM

I am having a problem with the 4.12 driver set! I have download the above
drivers its the 97a! 4.12!
The download seemed to be Ok! Except!
I didnt get the ATI control center!
I only Got the Muilt-Res Option!
I went back and un-installed the drivers and downloaded driver cleaner re-booted and tried again! Same Problem!
AM I doing something wrong here!!

I tried and run the AH with the downloaded Omega's but the performance was terrible and skipping and screen jumping!!
So I again, Un-installed the Omega's and back to the CCC!!
Did this happen to anyone!! I know I did something wrong!