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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Boroda on June 20, 2006, 12:08:41 PM
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This left turn from Rozanov street to Khoroshovskoe highway in Moscow is described as "intuitively understandable" or "subconsciously comprehended", I can't find a right translation, hope you understand.
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6650/clip00013wv.jpg)
This is a part of a "Third transport ring" in Msk, it was built in 1997-2002. I wonder what designers smoked to invent this. Other junctions are no better, but this one is an apotheosis of idiocy. A tiny railway line on the map is in fact a HUGE railway hub with maybe 100 tracks.
Disclaimer: I don't drive. I hope I explained one of the reasons why.
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A kindergartener's fingerpainting makes more sense than that. Musta been a commie that designed it.
;)
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I'm guessing Government subsidized Wodka is to blame.
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LOL. City planning at it's finest.
That picture loaded so slow I had an uncomfortable 14.4 modem flash back.
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That just goes to prove that while 2 wrongs don't make a right, three lefts do.
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Sim City Moscow-Edition ? ;)
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Street design by M.C. Escher.
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I thought things were perfect in the workers paradise. Why would abnyone there even remotely want to criticise this absulutely wonderful example of engineering.
Note for the sarcasm impaired the above was and IS sarcasm. :rolleyes:
Bummer there, hopefully later designs will be better.
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HAHA, what a smart way to get everyone to spend more money on petrol
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it does allow you to traverse 4 different highways at one intersection... it'd be a nightmare though trying to get through that.
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It's soviet era population control.
thins out the gene pool and old lada inventory all at the same time.
:D
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What you don't know is there is a eye in the sky watching for the amature driver that can traverse this in under 10 seconds. The day this person shows up, Russia will force on to the world a new Formula One superstar.:lol
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That's a good one Borada. Those are called 'mix masters' here. And many highway designers have taken the word to heart. Some of our local mix-masters are sheer works of insanity.
And the ones which used to make sense, are being overhauled. I think the state highway department is running a contest. "The Obfuscated Road Work Award".
I wish I had some aerial shots of them. I am sure the look of spaghetti in a plate would make more sense.
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Originally posted by RightF00T
What you don't know is there is a eye in the sky watching for the amature driver that can traverse this in under 10 seconds. The day this person shows up, Russia will force on to the world a new Formula One superstar.:lol
haha you never know...
I'm still waiting for the NSA to pick me up and tell me that I'm really a secret agen and was born and imbeded with secret anget skills that now I must serve for them.
Or my skills have made me undetectiable...
Oh yeah..
:noid
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The russians invented the left turn!
Or was that Kurt tank?
Maybe Al Bore?
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After driving in Boston, that Russian road doesn't look so bad...
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"polish left turn"
oh wait i thought this was a "caption this"
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Originally posted by Mustaine
"polish left turn"
oh wait i thought this was a "caption this"
If it was you would win lol!
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looks like squid sex to me
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That's pretty close to the exit for a left on Central Ave from 183 West in Euless, Tx.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
looks like squid sex to me
Have lots of experiance with squid sex?
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Have lots of experiance with squid sex?
Yup, the wife is all over me like one
Cant blame her..... im hot.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Yup, the wife is all over me like one
Cant blame her..... im hot.
well if you like the Squid sex, I hear Dolphin is even better! ;)
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
well if you like the Squid sex, I hear Dolphin is even better! ;)
i think he'd have a better chance with the ice bears
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Originally posted by Mustaine
i think he'd have a better chance with the ice bears
If you want to read some disturbing stuff, do a search for Dolphin sex with humans, I think someone years ago linked a news story about how people really do hump them on this forum.
No joke....
People do some strange stuff...............:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Nilsen does some strange stuff...............:rolleyes:
:aok
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I only thought the Dutch did **** like that
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What's the big deal?
That looks like the 605/10 interchange in east LA County (San Gabriel Valley).
Other fine examples of civil engineering abound throughout California.
My guess is that Russian engineers studied in California.
HONK!
Gooss
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Another workers paradise eh comrade. :p
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Man and I thought the new junction they put in by me was annoying. Where to make a right turn you literally have to get in your left lane
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Last time I checked humping dolphins is now tuna safe.
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Originally posted by Gooss
What's the big deal?
That looks like the 605/10 interchange in east LA County (San Gabriel Valley).
Other fine examples of civil engineering abound throughout California.
My guess is that Russian engineers studied in California.
HONK!
Gooss
Yah.. but that's a 'stacked' interchange.. you can do it goin 90.
The russian one is all one flat mess.
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I can't tell much from that illustration.
Is it to scale/ what's the scale?
It would all depend on traffic signs and scale.
Texas does have stupid highways though.
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I see two traffic lights at places I have no clue how it would work.
Whats the suicide rate od that place?
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Originally posted by Boroda
This left turn from Rozanov street to Khoroshovskoe highway in Moscow is described as "intuitively understandable" or "subconsciously comprehended", I can't find a right translation, hope you understand.
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6650/clip00013wv.jpg)
This is a part of a "Third transport ring" in Msk, it was built in 1997-2002. I wonder what designers smoked to invent this. Other junctions are no better, but this one is an apotheosis of idiocy. A tiny railway line on the map is in fact a HUGE railway hub with maybe 100 tracks.
Disclaimer: I don't drive. I hope I explained one of the reasons why.
"There are times like this, where taking LSD has helped me during my professional career."
BTW, I never understood how Estel negotiated through this on the way to the airport.
He's my ****ing hero for figuring this 1 out.
Wolf
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Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
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I count 10 possible wrong turns/exits a person could make.
I grew up and learned to drive in Alaska before the first clover leaf was built. I still don't like any kind of interchange since I'm used to simple two lane roads meeting two lane roads with or without a light. The more urban and traveled roads in Alaska are paved. My mother remembers when there was only one paved street in all of Anchorage.
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Here's the 190/75 interchange not far from where I live completed about 10 years ago.
http://www.texasfreeway.com/Dallas/photos/north_dallas_aerial/images/190_75_B_hres.jpg
Here's a live video feed of a much larger interchange recently completed in Dallas at 635/75 called the "high 5".
http://www.highfivecam.com/index_cam_2.htm
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Originally posted by Wolfala
BTW, I never understood how Estel negotiated through this on the way to the airport.
He's my ****ing hero for figuring this 1 out.
This junction is on the way from SVO to hotel Ukraine. Probably the place where the driver who took you to the airport lost his way.
The roads that meet there: Third Ring, Khoroshovskoe highway, Rosanov street, Begovaya bridge, Mokeyeva str., Year 1905 street, Polikarpov str plus some small roads parallel to the railway station.
Now they have built another junction like that on the next crossing of Third Ring (Begovaya str/Suschevsky Wall) and Leningrad avenue. They still didn't run out of drugs :(
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It's all about the $$$.
Sensors at the right spot will "prove" high utilization on multiple major roads, leading to more $$$ funneled into that region (city? state?) road fund.
Yea it's just a guess, but I know for a fact that this sort of thing happened in Calif before things really got out of control and they didn't have to resort to tricks to prove that the road system was overwhelmed. Without these sorts of games played early on in Calif history, the freeway congestion in Calif cities would be much worse than it is today. My grandfather was the lead engineer/manager on a system of roads around San Francisco. He had a big budget, so he planned the freeway from the beginning to be "safe" at 70 mph in the rain, even though most cars at that time could barely reach 80 at the top end. What that decision meant in the long run, even though it was derided as wasteful at the time, is that later they could expand those roads from 2 or 3 lanes to 4-6 lanes each direction, and still keep them safe at the higher speeds we see today (70+).
Compare that to some freeways through other major cities where the max speed is 45-55 because the turns are too tight, and the extra expense 40 years ago makes a heck of a lot of sense now. Took some guts to do it back then but of course people were a lot more optimistic then too, even during the worst parts of the cold war.
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In Moscow the problem is that in fact it's a big village that's over 850 years old.
The city was built in circles. Inner circle: Kremlin, a citadel. Then - a Chinese-town (Kitay-gorod), another brick wall, only a little lower, then - White town, Ground town, both having their own walls. Kitay-gorod wall was almost completely destroyed in the 1930s, it was incompatible with modern traffic. The last wall was built in XVIII century, "Kamer-Kollezhskiy val", Moscow Circular Railway is now on top of it, and it remained a city border until maybe 1945.
So we have this stupid radial structure, unlike any modern city we suffer from heritage of the times when the city had to defend from Tatar nomads and neighbouring princes. Kremlin was buit as it is now in 1400-1550. So the Kitay-Gorod walls and streets that follow the old wall lines.
And now officially we have 10 million people living here, it's obviously an underestimation, at least 18 million by the subway statistics, some sources say that we have up to 27 million people living in this village...
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and we were "this" close to doing you the favor....
;)
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So far you guys did your favour to 2 million Vietnamese. No, thanks, we'll prefer Tatars, at least they are sane, regardless to the fact that they burnt several cities, certainly, due to misunderstanding, just as what we have now. At least at that time walls could help... After 800 years of living together we understand what they need and mean.
It's 06:00 now here in Msk, and Rossiya TV channel shows a long-forgotten film, "17th Trans-Atlantic", about a PQ-17 convoy, maybe I'll stop typing and go watch it?
Dialogue from a film:
British advisor in Rejkjavik: "You doubt the success of ours?" (speaks in broken Russian)
Soviet captain: "I have no way to doubt, I need to make it."...
Anotther quote, translated from Eng: "He says he sails for 30 years and believes only in Jamaikian rum" :D
BTW, actors speaking Eng have no severe Russian accent like in "Convoy PQ-17" mini-series made a year ago.