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Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: BlueJ1 on June 20, 2006, 03:33:23 PM
How do the cards work?

Yellow means warning?

Red means exjected from the game?

England is sitting a player out since the beginning of the game because he had a yellow card. Do the cards carry over into other games?
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: Paxil on June 20, 2006, 03:34:19 PM
I think you get kicked out for 2 yellows also. Red means you are gone... or two yellows. At least... I think... =)
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: Furball on June 20, 2006, 04:03:32 PM
yellow = caution
red = dismissal

in the first three group matches, if a player gets a yellow card in 2 of the 3 games he has to miss the next game as a suspension.

if a player gets two yellow cards (cautions) in one game, he gets an immediate red and sent off.

after the first group stages, the cards are cleared, so everyone starts fresh.  unless you have picked up a suspension from the group stages which carries over.

if one of those england players on a card had been booked again today, they would have missed the next game.
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: BlueJ1 on June 20, 2006, 04:06:00 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
yellow = caution
red = dismissal

in the first three group matches, if a player gets a yellow card in 2 of the 3 games he has to miss the next game as a suspension.

if a player gets two yellow cards (cautions) in one game, he gets an immediate red and sent off.


Ok thankyou. It all makes sense now.
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: Tarmac on June 20, 2006, 04:30:13 PM
And if you're ejected, your team plays a man down, right?  That's how the USA-Italy game was 10 vs 9, I think.
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: Furball on June 20, 2006, 04:34:04 PM
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Originally posted by Tarmac
And if you're ejected, your team plays a man down, right?  That's how the USA-Italy game was 10 vs 9, I think.


yes, for the entire game, not just a short space of time in a 'sin bin' like some other sports.
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: beet1e on June 20, 2006, 06:55:52 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
if one of those england players on a card had been booked again today, they would have missed the next game.
LOL Furby - memories of Gazza in the England v Germany game, 1990 in Italy! :cry :cry :cry :cry
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: Masherbrum on June 21, 2006, 05:29:19 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e
LOL Furby - memories of Gazza in the England v Germany game, 1990 in Italy! :cry :cry :cry :cry


LMFAO, I remember that one.
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: Tarmac on June 21, 2006, 11:48:00 AM
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Originally posted by Furball
in the first three group matches, if a player gets a yellow card in 2 of the 3 games he has to miss the next game as a suspension.
 


In this situation, does your team have to play a man down in the next game, or is that particular player just benched?
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: Masherbrum on June 21, 2006, 12:40:41 PM
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Originally posted by Tarmac
In this situation, does your team have to play a man down in the next game, or is that particular player just benched?


Benched.
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: Furball on June 21, 2006, 04:09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Tarmac
In this situation, does your team have to play a man down in the next game, or is that particular player just benched?


it means he is unavailable for selection in the team or as a substitute.

you might find this link useful for the actual laws of the game: -

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesAndRegulations/FIFALawsOfTheGame/Postings/2002/05/12111.htm
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: Tarmac on June 21, 2006, 04:48:29 PM
Thanks, I'll go over it when I've got some time.  I played soccer for 8 years or so; I understand enough to watch and understand what's going on.  It's the little things in the FIFA rules that I don't understand; for example, in our leagues if a player got a red card he was out but the coach could still send in a new 11th player to replace him... nobody ever played short-handed.  You had to get two yellows in one game to get tossed, so they were essentially meaningless.

ed: the 2nd American goal in the USA - Italy game also confused me when it was recalled.  In our leagues you had to touch the ball or another player to be offsides, not just be "part of the play."  It was actually a tactic to have an offsides player screen the goalie so he couldn't see the shot coming.  Maybe that was because the amateur refs just never called it if you didn't touch the ball, so you could get away with it.  :)
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: BlueJ1 on June 21, 2006, 05:26:03 PM
Anyone know what time zone these are set in?

FIFA Sceduale (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/schedule.html)
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: Furball on June 22, 2006, 01:55:19 AM
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Originally posted by Tarmac
ed: the 2nd American goal in the USA - Italy game also confused me when it was recalled.  In our leagues you had to touch the ball or another player to be offsides, not just be "part of the play."  It was actually a tactic to have an offsides player screen the goalie so he couldn't see the shot coming.  Maybe that was because the amateur refs just never called it if you didn't touch the ball, so you could get away with it.  :)


The actual rule is, you can have a player in an offside position when the goal is scored, as long as he is not interfering with play.

IIRC was it Donovan who was offside? he was standing right in front of the goalkeeper in an offside position, restricting his view, so he was interfering with play... maybe he has been playing in the same league as you ;)
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: Furball on June 22, 2006, 01:57:46 AM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Anyone know what time zone these are set in?

FIFA Sceduale (http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/schedule.html)


that is GMT + 1, Central European Time.  So the Italy game is 10:00 am your time?
Title: Soccer Cards? (yellow,red)
Post by: lasersailor184 on June 22, 2006, 08:59:11 AM
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The actual rule is, you can have a player in an offside position when the goal is scored, as long as he is not interfering with play.


They may have changed it when I was a Ref, but back then the rule was, "The player is offsides if he has to be considered as in the play."


I.E. If the guy is offsides, and the ball passes him, he is offsides even if he does not go for the ball.  The key is if the Goaly has to make the decision or move on him like he will play the ball, he is offsides even if he doesn't play the ball.