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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Wolfala on June 21, 2006, 04:19:03 PM
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3519855663545752103
EDIT!!!! Very Raw Content !!!!
Watched - its not Pro War or Pro Western, but very raw and informative on the daily happenings of what is censored out. What is lacking is any detailed analysis of events for why they occur - and goes into the daily tribings of journalists, freelance and otherwise.
Wolf
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The war going on in iraq is only censored out if you elect not to be informed. Graphic war coverage is freely available even if you dont see it on your local news. Be informed, its up to each of us to gather our own news.
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This thread should include a warning.
VERY graphic and horrible content!!!
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Originally posted by Nilsen
This thread should include a warning.
VERY graphic and horrible content!!!
Done
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I will say this, its absolutely crappy the way those people treat each other. Im not so sure they are worth saving anymore and I fear they could ultimately become a ELT (Extinction Level Threat). Maybe a a few atomic detonations in that neck of the woods would be best for the rest of the planet.
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I watched the first 10 minutes of it. It was by far more than enough to get the fact that they were running an editorial piece instead of reporting. If you decide to watch it, yes it's graphic, it's also quite slanted and edited in and of itself. They decry editing of journalism yet don't seem to be ashamed that they themselves are doing the same thing. Form your own opinion.
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Originally posted by Maverick
I watched the first 10 minutes of it. It was by far more than enough to get the fact that they were running an editorial piece instead of reporting. If you decide to watch it, yes it's graphic, it's also quite slanted and edited in and of itself. They decry editing of journalism yet don't seem to be ashamed that they themselves are doing the same thing. Form your own opinion.
are they really editing journalism?
i suppose everyone does if they add any text or comment to a picture. if they dont add anything they still do it becuase they dont explaint the context of the picture shown.
i agree.... form your own opinion, but maybe see more than 10 minutes before you do.
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I'm downloading it now to watch later after I give the kid's a bath, but sight unseen Mav is saying what I am sure I will be confirming later; it is ironic that an admitted JOURNALIST (I'm interested in knowing who he actually gets paid by) is REPORTING the untold story in Iraq.
We'll see though. I'll report back after watching it.
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Nilsen,
It wasn't the repetition of the scene that brought me to that conclusion. It was the "interview" of the (I assume) british journalist in the arm chair giving the conclusions about the govt. interest in editing the news. his agenda was rather transparent. He was reaching conclusions and then showing scenes to reinforce his opinion. That's the editing I object to. I want a reporter to report, not analyze. I'll reach my own conclusions thank you very much mr / ms journalist.
PS I do have to admit a bias. I've seen some of these folks in action in situations I was involved in to include editing the interview to present a different meaning to the statements recorded.
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I think i understand. You are against reporters making documentaries based on how they see things, and not just reporting straight facts and sending them over to the news desk?
or am i missing your point?
If thats what you mean then ok.. They are no longer journalists but documentary makers.
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Anyone catch the recent Frontline episode 'Dark Side' (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/)?
Much better 'journalism'...
You can watch it online on the Fornt;ine/PBS site once it re-airs on Thursday:
The Dark Side will be available for viewing online starting Thursday at 5pm et.
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Pretty close Nilsen. The use of the access to the airwaves gives folks like this unprecedented ability to mold public opinion. If they are providing facts, fine it's reporting. Once they start providing conclusions and analysis it becomed editorializing. That is not "journalism" it's trying to influence rather than inform.
Documentaries can still be unbiased but it still has to be on the basis of reporting what happened not giving their interpretation of what happened. A tall order indeed.
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Originally posted by Bruno
Anyone catch the recent Frontline episode 'Dark Side' (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/)?
Much better 'journalism'...
You can watch it online on the Fornt;ine/PBS site once it re-airs on Thursday:
Saw it last night - wanted to find a copy to DL but I don't think anyone has posted it up or rip'd it to divx.
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I haven't quite fully digested it, but it wasn't at all what I expected.
The guy reporting from the Green Zone said it himself...he knew as much about what was going on from where he was in downtown Bagdad as he did in London.
Interesting.
Of course it could be propaganda in its own right.
:noid
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Originally posted by Yeager
I will say this, its absolutely crappy the way those people treat each other. Im not so sure they are worth saving anymore and I fear they could ultimately become a ELT (Extinction Level Threat). Maybe a a few atomic detonations in that neck of the woods would be best for the rest of the planet.
you mean you like to nuke U.S??????????????????????????????????????
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Originally posted by ramzey
you mean you like to nuke U.S??????????????????????????????????????
no Laplanders, no one likes them or their frikken reindeer.
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Nuking solves every problem. Err.. maybe it IS better to censor everything to protect the nutjobs.
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Just think... what the press would have done with WWI or WWII.....
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Originally posted by Bruno
Anyone catch the recent Frontline episode 'Dark Side' (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/)?
Much better 'journalism'...
You can watch it online on the Fornt;ine/PBS site once it re-airs on Thursday:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/
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Originally posted by Heater
Just think... what the press would have done with WWI or WWII.....
good thing steve gutenberg didnt invent movable type until 1985.
following the failure of Short Circut II: Even Shorter in 1991 he went back into the lab & made the 'tardnet.
wotta genius.
sad that now he can only work in gay pron (sad, that is, unless you like gay pron)
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Originally posted by JB88
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/
Hope its atleast downloadable instead of being streamed over Macromedia or quicktime.