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Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: Hoarach on June 22, 2006, 09:44:51 PM

Im over a4 in a temp about say 13-14k intercepting rook mission of 152s.  Make a pass than run as 6x152s jump on my rear.  Extend for awhile to see 2x152s closing in and I turn when they are 600 off.  I pull maybe 3-4gs and was going between 400-450 and get myself in a perma blackout for 30 seconds and odd kills me.  I only ask how can a temp get a perma blackout pulling 3-4gs when can pull 6gs in a 51 or 38 and not get perma blackout.  This left me totally still and slow for odd to just kill me.  No offense odd but that perma blackout was a bunch of nonsense.

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: viper215 on June 22, 2006, 10:36:47 PM

I get these all the time... happens when on auto even.

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: Saxman on June 22, 2006, 10:51:10 PM

I hate when you black out, and if you try to maneuver as you start to come out of it dumps you right into a full blackout again.

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: hubsonfire on June 22, 2006, 11:05:31 PM

This is exactly why I don't fly planes that exceed 300mph.

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: jaxxo on June 22, 2006, 11:29:21 PM

6g's in a ww2 ftr with no g suit your head should explode lol

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: Krusty on June 22, 2006, 11:57:32 PM

I think you mean IMplode :aok

Well if you're doing 450+ in a temp there's no way you're going to pull a 3-G turn. You're just too fast. You pull a 3-g turn and it's like a lazy long drawn out turn (like you don't care if you take the whole sector). I'm guessing you pegged 'er on the G-meter. Same BS happens on the 262. Slight movement equates into full G spike.

Only, in the 262 it rips your wings off, doesn't black you out.

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: Clutz on June 23, 2006, 12:34:54 AM

I get blackouts in the tower reading the map. I think it's to much beer that I drank!  :D  Seriously, I often wonder what goes on around me during a blackout, or a red out. Seems like my guns don't hit their target, that's for sure. Also, I have never got a HO collision during a black or red out. Never got shot down in either situation as well. However, I  do wonder what sort of packet ping things go on in these situations as I wonder about my Internet connection all the time. And lets not forget about the blackouts we get when we got blood all over our canopies. These are way cool!

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: Murdr on June 23, 2006, 01:31:16 AM

The term you are looking for is that you suffered G-Lock.  Did you film?  Id like to see your accelerometer.  I bet you spiked at many more Gs than you think.

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: hubsonfire on June 23, 2006, 02:09:45 AM

Jaxxo's thick brow ridge protects him from head injury and implosion. It also makes shim look like a gorilla.

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: bozon on June 23, 2006, 02:23:15 AM

If I recall correctly HT said that the long black outs are a fatigue model and depend on how much you blacked out before.

Bozon

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: BugsBunny on June 23, 2006, 08:20:24 AM

Quote

Originally posted by hubsonfire
This is exactly why I don't fly planes that exceed 300mph.

That the Yak or the La7? :O

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: Hoarach on June 23, 2006, 10:20:05 AM

No I didnt film it thinking as I never had this in a temp before.

Bozon....this was my first blackout of the flight and it happened to be a perma blackout.

Title: The Perma Blackouts
Post by: Tabasco on June 23, 2006, 01:23:33 PM

For me the perma-blackouts occur if I continue to pull enough G's to cause the tunnel vision to close completely for more than a few seconds.  If it happens when someone's on my tail pulling the same moves at the same speed, I can bet he's blacking out too.  If he is, I wake up in one piece.  If he has a friend nearby, I get picked.