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Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 27, 2006, 10:20:52 PM
Ken Lloyd, a P-38 pilot with the 80th FS Headhunters, died Father's Day, of pulmonary fibrosis. He was a dear friend for the last few years, and I am planning a memorial flight for him for this Wednesday night, around 9 eastern. It will be an all P-38 flight, any model accepted, so long as it has an 80th FS skin on it. If you're interested, email me or PM me.

savage{nospam}@327th.com

I'll not be posting details here, so email or pm and I'll get you details. We'll be filming it and converting it as well, it will be posted on the website, and a copy sent to Ken's family.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Hajo on June 27, 2006, 11:09:38 PM
Email sent.  Would be honored to participate.

Thanks for asking.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Enduro on June 27, 2006, 11:22:49 PM
My condolences to the squad and his family.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Guppy35 on June 27, 2006, 11:36:02 PM
Will make sure I make it and pass the word to the rest of the 80th, 475th guys.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: SFCHONDO on June 28, 2006, 12:11:42 AM
I 'll be there, by the way what was his in game name?
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Raptor on June 28, 2006, 01:03:41 AM
He was a pilot in the 80th FS during the war.

I will try to be there.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: SFCHONDO on June 28, 2006, 01:15:34 AM
Ahhhh, Thanks Raptor
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Guppy35 on June 28, 2006, 01:42:55 AM
Not finding a photo of Ken Lloyd yet, but from John Stanaway's history of the 8th FG, that included the 80th FS Headhunters  "Attack & Conquer", comes the description of Ken Lloyd's one kill, August 17, 1944

"Jay Robbins was leading the 80th Squadron at 14,000 feet over the target when he saw several Oscars below at about 5500 feet.  He took Copper Red flight down first and called down the other Copper flights when he saw there were about 10 Oscars bursting in and out of the clouds below.

He dropped his own tanks and led his flight down on one Oscar that was quick enough to split-s out of range.  Another Oscar was indecisive enough to first turn into Robbin's pass then turn away when the P-38 got into range.  It was a deadly mistake and the Oscar pilot paid for it when heavy gunfire from the P-38 shattered the left wing, engine and cockpit from close range.  The Oscar fell out of control and burned all the way to the ground.

Quickly shifting his attention to another Oscar, Robbins got hits on the desperately maneuvering plane without a single telling blow.  Lt. Kenneth Lloyd took over and forced the battered Oscar to the treetops.  Finally the Japanese fighter staggered a moment and Lloyd shot it down the few remaining feet into the jungle."


Hopefully Savage will have a photo of Mr. Lloyd to post.

As much as I love the 38G, I'd suggest silver J's and Ls in the 80th skins.  The silver J is the Jay Robbins bird "Jandina" while the L is "Miss Cheri"  Ken Lloyd was with the Headhunters during that timeframe from what I can tell.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on June 28, 2006, 01:53:52 AM
If I can get home in time I'll be glad to come along for the ride.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 28, 2006, 07:12:36 AM
Actually, Ken and I never quite got around to swapping pictures, I wish we had. Ken did not join the 80th until after they had gotten J and L models, but I figured we have appropriate skins for the G, and he had friends who flew the G. I know Ken would want them remembered and honored as well, so fly the model you prefer, with an 80th FS skin, in honor of Ken and his squadron.

I will be waiting for the map change today, after that happens, I'll answer the emails and PM's with a plan, and a place to fly the plan.

Thank you all for your time and interest, I know Ken would be pleased and stunned, as he was very humble and appreciative of the attention he received, like most all of his generation, he felt it wasn't really him, but those he was with, who were so important.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Hornet33 on June 28, 2006, 07:25:03 AM
I would like to be a part of this. What country is this going to take place in? Knights, Rook, or Bish? Of course you could set this up in the DA so that everyone could participate without having to change country in the MA. Just a suggestion.

to your friend Ken, and all the members of the 80th. May he fly the heavens on God given wings.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Delirium on June 28, 2006, 08:02:39 AM
I really wish I could be there tonight, please tell his family that my thoughts and prayers are with them during this difficult time.

I hope someone takes pictures as well as film, this would be a great film to have posted to the HTC main page.
Title: Ken Lloyd
Post by: Spiffing on June 28, 2006, 09:04:13 AM
(http://www.mindspring.com/~calliegirl01/Ken_Lloyd.jpg)
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: monteini on June 28, 2006, 09:14:08 AM
Someone who knows what their doing should skin his plane!

Nick172
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Hajo on June 28, 2006, 10:14:56 AM
Monteini agreed.  Can see no better salute to Mr Lloyd then having a replica of his aircraft in the game.

You skinners read this? Fester, Kev, Rogerdee and many others that do a spectacular job skinning we have a new project for you:)
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Eagler on June 28, 2006, 10:32:06 AM
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Originally posted by monteini
Someone who knows what their doing should skin his plane!

Nick172


beside his nose art, I believe the skin already exists in AH

I too will try to make it tonight
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 28, 2006, 12:15:18 PM
Guys, I'm keeping track of EVERYONE who wants to fly, I WILL email or PM everyone who has posted or sent mail, with specifics early as possible this evening.

I had thought about the DA, but decided on the MA instead, the plan is to fly Rook.  Although it may require that some switch countries, at least it will be easy to find, and some can combine this with their normal routine and/or squad night. The 327th has a Wednesday night squad night anyway.

Of course, if there was a U.S. vs. Japan AvA setup tonight, we'd do that. However, I've been busy at work and at the race track, and haven't had time to look yet.

Spiffing, thank you very much for the pic, and of course than you Dan for the AAR of Ken's victory.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Hajo on June 28, 2006, 12:20:50 PM
I don't think it would be necessary to change sides.  We've had memorial flybys in the past.  It was announced in the MA and the majority of the MA participated.  Don't remember anyone during these memorial flights being an idiot and shooting down a participant.

Bish Rooks and Knights can all form at a point on the Map and lap the terrain.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: FlyinFin on June 28, 2006, 12:32:00 PM
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Not finding a photo of Ken Lloyd yet,

they are a few photos here including the 1 posted

http://www.mindspring.com/~jaybirdone/headhunters/wwii%20photos.htm

and somthing written by him
http://www.mindspring.com/~jaybirdone/headhunters/wwii%20memoirs.htm#Lloyd

Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Hoarach on June 28, 2006, 01:11:12 PM
I shall try to make it. :aok
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Hornet33 on June 28, 2006, 01:43:43 PM
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Originally posted by Hajo
I don't think it would be necessary to change sides.  We've had memorial flybys in the past.  It was announced in the MA and the majority of the MA participated.  Don't remember anyone during these memorial flights being an idiot and shooting down a participant.

Bish Rooks and Knights can all form at a point on the Map and lap the terrain.


I like this idea. Give me a grid and I'm there.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: LePaul on June 28, 2006, 04:50:10 PM
Crap, Im a huge P-38 fan and wish I could join.

Wont be home til 11pm EST tho.

Film it !
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Lord ReDhAwK on June 28, 2006, 05:41:55 PM
I'll be there as well.  9pm Eastern.  Thanks for setting this up sir.

ReDhAwK
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: 1ijac on June 28, 2006, 06:17:36 PM
I'd love to participate if I can make it home in time.  

1i
Title: everyone who emailed or PM'd has a reply
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 28, 2006, 06:37:53 PM
I have sent a reply to everyone I have a PM or an email from.

In the event that you didn't send me anything, and didn't get a reply, some time around 9:15 PM Eastern, log in to the MA and private text me, and I'll make every effort to hook you up if at all possible.

The emails and PMs were pretty much form letter type format, don't be put off by the fact that they were not "personal", I just didn't have enough time.

Thank you to all who expressed an interest, and sent thoughts and/or prayers along to the family.

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Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 28, 2006, 07:04:37 PM
I got a couple of late requests, and got the m sent out.

Now, if you decide not to switch countries, send me a private text around 9:15 and we'll try to accomodate you.

Thanks,
SaVaGe
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 28, 2006, 09:44:34 PM
The flight was pretty successful, thank you to everyone who came. Please send me your films and screenshots. We'll try to edit everything and come up with something really nice.
Title: Memorial Flight for Ken Lloyd
Post by: Guppy35 on June 28, 2006, 10:11:21 PM
Heckuva job Savage.  Was great to be a part of :)