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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Midnight on June 28, 2006, 05:35:27 PM
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If one was to have to shoot a large black bear (estimate 250lbs) in thier own backyard, that was say, showing agressive behavior to loving wife working in vegatable garden, what might be the most practicle rifle to dispatch said bear? This shooting of course necessary as the life and limb of said wife is in clear and present danger and notifcation of local police or animal control would take too long.
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Hmm...30.06 prolly be good. Thats just because I have one. SHotgun with a slug maybe? 30/30. They shoot a prety big shell. I really have no idea about killing a bear. Just shoot it alot I would say:lol Don't make it mad with a .22 or something like that.
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Originally posted by Midnight
If one was to have to shoot a large black bear (estimate 250lbs) in thier own backyard, that was say, showing agressive behavior to loving wife working in vegatable garden, what might be the most practicle rifle to dispatch said bear? This shooting of course necessary as the life and limb of said wife is in clear and present danger and notifcation of local police or animal control would take too long.
Garand, FAL, M-14. At the range you will be shooting from a Bolt Action would not be my first pick. ;)
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I like the M-14 idea, M1 is nice as well... $$$$ I guess.
Unfortunately, the only rifles I have now are XR-15 and 10-22, neither of which I want to tangle with angry black bear.
In a real pinch, how well would a .45 with PMC Starfire SFHP do? That's what I have loaded in my usual carry gun, which is the most accesible (as in always loaded, not in a safe)
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Barret M82. If I was going after a bear, I wouldn't step out of the car with anything less then a ****ing fifty in my hands.
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Just buy a dog instead. Black bears are afraid of dogs.
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Mid, "no" to the HP pistol rounds. Those expand too fast on heavy boned critters. Hit him wrong and you might just P.O. him.
If you want this done, sure thing/one round, get a centerfire rifle with decent energy and the right bullet.
Any of the -.06 derivatives like a .270, .25-06 or the old reliable .30-06 would be my choice I think.
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I wonder what a claymore would do?
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on the first shot he drops, runs or charges.
it's the charge I'd worry about. Toad speaks truth.. but I'd still want a semi-auto to face a charge with.
Bou't time you got a real Rifle, Midnight. Now the wife knows it too. ;) Get a 30-06 Garand, you won't regret it.
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thread title should read "the right two bear arms" because what if you go shopping & the best one is sold out...
how about a bearzooka?
it canis whup major ass
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send pictures to stephen colbert.
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Do you have a 9-iron in your bag? I prefer the 9-iron to the wedge in these cases. If the black bear sees you with a wedge he's gonna assume you are bluffing and could possibly charge immediately.
Good luck.
:aok
If you insist on using a rifle I'd call the local NRA office....oh wait...you did. nm ;)
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I'd use the 12 gauge with 3" copper solid slugs. Knock down power up the yin-yang.
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A big one :)
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use grenades
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Land Mines
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I would use a 44 or 45 caliber rifle with a bullet of 300 grains or larger, with a flat nose, either jacketed or hard cast. That's what we use to hunt them. Yes, of course a 30 caliber rifle will do the job. However for game that size and toughness, large caliber heavy bullets are by far the most reliable stoppers.
A good lever gun, chambered in 45 Colt, 44 Magnum, or best yet, 45-70. You'll have to order your ammo. I hunt them with handguns, both 44 Magnum and 45 Colt. There are several companies that load good ammo for this purpose.
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defintly auto large caliber.....this is a para fal... .308 ..great compact size..easy carry..hangs very nicely from a garden fence..excelent recoil..sustained rate of fire on target; )
but..a dog would be nice..and good aim will be a must..no matter what caliber you use; )
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.30-06
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Either a 30-06 or a 308 are going to be just fine at close range. The 06 will only really hold an advantage at longer ranges. Under 100 yards for black bear either will do the job as long as you have a deep penetrating bullet and you place it properly.
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I'd take a Pony D. Set convergence 300/325/350, and BnZ until the bear eaither falls asleep, or tries to run. In either case, this is the time to swoop in for the safe kill.
Don't take any chances by getting into a turn fight with the bear, cause he'll just eat you for lunch down low.
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How populated is the area you're in, and what's gonna backstop your fire if it overpenetrates or, in the case of a charge, you have a wild round or two that miss?
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M107
If you line it up right, you could get 2 for 1:D
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Here ya go, i would use this or go too a gunshow and get some beanbag ammo for a 12 gauge.
http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com/company.asp?ID=44
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grab a single shot 22 LR and get busy :aok
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I really find it an anacranism of our colonial birth that even this day the constitution protects our right to keep and arm bears.
Really he shouldn't need anything more than a big knife. Or maybe some pepper spray.
-Sik
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Dig a 12 ft deep 8 foot diameter pit, install sharpened bamboo stakes in the bottom, stretch a sheet accros the top, throw some grass on the sheet and then hang a raw pot roast over the pit
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Hmmmm.
Move to the woods where there is wildlife, then get upset when encountering wildlife and the local indigenous wildlife poses a threat.
Only fair way is to challenge it in hand to hand combat with a bowie knife.
Orr you could always as suggested. get a dog and also remove the items that are attracting the bear to begin with.
Orrrr move back to the suburbs
Sorry But I have little sympathy.
I wouldnt live in a house in the everglades if I didnt want to encounter alligators.
And I wouldnt live in an area that contained bear if I didnt expect to encounter them.
I am all for people first but You cant move into an area with wildlife such as bear or any other animal for that matter and expect them to respect your property lines or anything else for that matter.
Bears typically avoid contact with humans. If there is one that is continually intruding on your property then there is a very strong chance it is because you are doing, or not doing something that is attracting them.
Inasmuch as this is spring it is probably food.
And Bear will eat vegetables
If your going to insist on living in such an area then the key is coexistence.
You gotta not do the things that might attract them to begin with.
And that might mean having to give up certain things. Vegetable gardens and storing garbage outside might be among them
And if you have to kill an animal. Then eat it
Ok so you kill the bear. As I said there is something going on that is atracting them.
What you gonna do when the next one shows up? And the next one?
And the one after that?
Oh and you might want to check with your local laws.
Here in Jersey Killing a Black bear without a permit even if it is acting in a threatening way is highly illegal and carries a nice little fine to go with it.
Basically it has to actually attack you before your allowed to kill it.
And then you better have proof
That being said. if attacked by a Black bear. Dont play dead, Fight back
That tactic might work on Grizzlies. But not on a Black bear. They will eat you anyway.
Bon appetite To either you, or the bear.
whichever wins out ;)
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Black bears...eek. Those guys are often thought to be as timid and not nearly as agressive as the borwn bears. So wrong!
Firepower...geeze, nothing short of a grenade launcher. Chances are you'll only get one shot so it'll really have to count.
Dont you have any inlaws ya dont like that you could dip in honey and don a bomb belt on? ;)
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I'm tellin yah, a garand, a coupla dozen clips, and don't forget the PRC-66 when you go outside the wire.. never know when yer gonna need navy air or marine arty ta back yer play.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
A good lever gun, chambered in 45 Colt, 44 Magnum, or best yet, 45-70. You'll have to order your ammo. I hunt them with handguns, both 44 Magnum and 45 Colt. There are several companies that load good ammo for this purpose.
Hot dang, the temp in Hades must be dropping, Savage and I are in agreement on something! 45-70 definitely. Marlin makes a nice lever action (the 1895 Guide Gun) which will do the job. It is one of the top bear rounds out here (black bear). Save the .30 cals for elk or something.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=51119861
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Savage you coming back to Bigweek?
(edited to add link)
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LARGE CALIBRE
AUTOMATIC/Semi-Automatic
LARGE MAGAZINE CAPACITY
AND SOMEONE BACKING YOU UP.
Bears are tough ****.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
If your going to insist on living in such an area then the key is coexistence.
You gotta not do the things that might attract them to begin with.
And that might mean having to give up certain things. Vegetable gardens and storing garbage outside might be among them
And if you have to kill an animal. Then eat it
You are right and you are wrong. Coexistence is cool--but if every single person is not practicing it, it doesn't work. We have a saying out here: "A fed bear is a dead bear." They get "used" to people and it spells their end as they eventually get too aggressive.
Invariably some jerk will leave the trash out or have a 50 lb bag of dog food on the porch and ruin it for the bear. It is very sad. Established camp grounds are the worst as they are not policed enough unfortunately and our tourist visitors do not understand -- causing the eventual death of the bear. :(
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Hmmmm.
Move to the woods where there is wildlife, then get upset when encountering wildlife and the local indigenous wildlife poses a threat.
Only fair way is to challenge it in hand to hand combat with a bowie knife.
no, give it smallpox, lol:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Used to deer hunt in an area near Hell Creek Swamp, about 30 miles north of Mobile. It became a black bear preserve of sorts. All the bears moved into the area because of land development and more residences being built all around. I saw bears almost every time I went there. I thought it was pretty cool to watch the bears. One big one walked under my stand (6' from head to tail.) Musta smelled me but never looked up, then walked on. Hehe, I was thinking, what am I gonna do if that bear starts up this tree.:D
My hunting partner would come get me after dark, and I'd be standing there waiting...thinking about bears. One thing my partner had said before on previous hunts was "remember, you're the baddest thing in these woods with that rifle, nothing will attack you." That was comforting.
In the paper not too long ago, there was a lengthy story in the Sunday edition about an old coot who killed a black bear after the bear chomped down on his leg. He went to the hospital and that's where it was discovered about the bear dealings. Evidently he was shooting bears, and one got him back when he was checking on it to see if it was dead. This guy got in a lot of trouble for that, and rightfully so. Black bears are protected in this state. Think there are only about 60 left in the state, and most of them are near where I was deer hunting.
But yep, leaving out anything edible will attract bears in a rural/suburban area. They really like sweets, but they'll eat deer carcasses too. My friend said he went back to look for a deer he shot the previous day. A bear had already found it and was dragging it off before my buddy could retrive it. He said the bear stopped and looked up at the tree stand directly at him, then turned and went off with the deer like "this is my deer now.":)
Les
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Marlin 1895 45-70!!!!!! Use it pig hunting and puts them right down.
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Actually, in all seriousness, Hang has it correct here. The garand can fire quicker, is more powerful and can reload much easier then any other gun mentioned (seriously that is).
I read a story on a gun forum I used to frequent about a guy getting charged by a grizzlie in alaska. He had a garand and got off 7 clips of ammo to have the bear drop dead at his feet.
Now, the bear didn't need to get shot with 56 bullets to go down, but chances are you're going to use 56 bullets to PUT the bear down.
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SKS
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LOL!
after the bear eats yah, he'll use that popgun as a toothpick.
;)
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Daisy Red Ryder repeater, 200 shot magazine!
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Barret M82.
:aok
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any good high powered rifle round will do well... shotgun slug will work.
Handguns... A good 44 mag round about 250 grains hard cast. 45 colt if you load it up to 44 mag levels. the new magnums...460 480 500 and wildcats but.... why not just get a rifle if you are gonna lug those clumsy handguns around?
The alltime best would probly be 45-70 or 444 marlin.
lazs
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Dig a 12 ft deep 8 foot diameter pit, install sharpened bamboo stakes in the bottom, stretch a sheet accros the top, throw some grass on the sheet and then hang a raw pot roast over the pit
Yeah right. What about next friday night ?
Gets drunk, and goes out and sees a raw pot roast... hhhhhhm foooood.
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Originally posted by Horn
Hot dang, the temp in Hades must be dropping, Savage and I are in agreement on something! 45-70 definitely. Marlin makes a nice lever action (the 1895 Guide Gun) which will do the job. It is one of the top bear rounds out here (black bear). Save the .30 cals for elk or something.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=51119861
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Savage you coming back to Bigweek?
(edited to add link)
Agreed Horn.
The problem with 30 caliber in this case is the fact that it lacks mass, and diameter. Like I said we hunt bear and bore, and while a fast moving 30 caliber will kill a bear, it doesn't STOP the bear as quickly as a large caliber round. And considering the question was "What do I use to stop a bear attacking my wife", I think the point here is to stop the bear fast.
A lever gun will shoot plenty fast. And a 44 or 45 caliber bullet that weighs over 300 grains and moves over 1300 fps out of the muzzle will do a damned fine job on a bear. That means any of the premium ammo sold, coming out of a lever gun, will do the trick, considering my Dan Wesson will push a 300 grain bullet at 1300 fps from a 6" barrel.
I don't know about coming back to Bigweek, I may drop in every so often. Maybe one day. I have a lot going on these days, and my apetite for discourse isn't what it used to be. But that doesn't mean I will never drop in to say hello.
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i have never killed a bear, but know people who have...
a hunter with good aim shooting an unsuspecting bear from the side with a bullet that does not expand a ton can hit the chest and heart / lungs and do major damage.
someone shooting just to shoot, not taking 30 seconds to aim each shot can plug a bear over 5 times with a high powered gun and still be lunch for said bear.
someone mentioned slugs... it will take much more than 1. the slug doesn't have the power to get through the thick bones like a rifle bullet. my uncle told about a bear in upper michigan that took 8 shotgun slugs before going down.
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Am I ever glad I keep my old gun rags! The following advice straight from Handguns '98...
"If you're going to go hand-gunning for bear of any variety, make sure you bring along someone to pack the rifle. Yes, rifle! If you need additional stopping power right now a rifle will provide it much faster than any handgun. Besides, hand-gunning for bear isn't a sport some would call 'wise' and a hunting buddy is always a good idea."
That being said, the minimum medicine for bear is a .44 Mag. If you can wrap your paws around a Linebaugh pistol in .475 or .500 Mag, you'd best do so! All the artillery jokes aside, bear have a very shock-resistant nervous system. Some won't go down despite being ventilated with a half-dozen of the hottest .44 Mag rounds out there. Not because they aren't powerful enough, but because it takes a hell of a hit to put any bear into shock. Let alone drop one. They possess heavy skeletons with even heavier layers of muscle. "Walking tanks" is a good descriptive.
For rifles, go with a .30 caliber or larger with at least 1,800 ft-lbs of energy behind it. For the ol' 06, stick with 220 grain soft-points or Bonded Bear Claw. My personal choice would be a .45-70 lever gun stoked with 300 grain hollowpoints. If money was no object, it'd be a .470 Nitro Express spitting monolithic solid. The basic principle in hunting any bear is to put them down NOW![/i] The last thing you want to do is get Teddy torqued off with a pop-gun or merely wound him with your hand cannon. Shotgun slugs are excellent in this regard. If you get a pump gun, stoke it with Federal Power-Shok hollowpoint rifled slugs. They make one shell that hits with 3,000 ft-lbs of energy, though the recoil might make you pick another load. If that doesn't get Teddy's attention, nothing will!
Remington's web site had a nice bit about where to hit game, including graphics of different angles on a bear. Looks like they pulled it, though (drat!).
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Hey wait a minute...why do you want a rifle for a black bear ? Bears don't even shoot rifles.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Actually, in all seriousness, Hang has it correct here. The garand can fire quicker, is more powerful and can reload much easier then any other gun mentioned (seriously that is).
I read a story on a gun forum I used to frequent about a guy getting charged by a grizzlie in alaska. He had a garand and got off 7 clips of ammo to have the bear drop dead at his feet.
Now, the bear didn't need to get shot with 56 bullets to go down, but chances are you're going to use 56 bullets to PUT the bear down.
Um, no.
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if your wife is like mine, for about 10 days out of the month, I'd give the bear the gun to make it even :)
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Originally posted by Midnight
If one was to have to shoot a large black bear (estimate 250lbs) in thier own backyard, that was say, showing agressive behavior to loving wife working in vegatable garden, what might be the most practicle rifle to dispatch said bear? This shooting of course necessary as the life and limb of said wife is in clear and present danger and notifcation of local police or animal control would take too long.
"too long" meaning what? Did you try? Would be a shame to shoot the bear just for being a bear if it could be relocated.
You have waited (and are waiting) for CT for months and months now midnight...the wife should be able to wait for a week for animal control to move a bear.
-Your friendly neighbourhood pinko commie animal lover
(edit) 308 winmag if you HAVE to.
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Here comes the anti-gun guy :D
Well, what Hangtime said is IMHO good. M1 Garand, or something without a bolt. BANGBANGBANG you see, - this is a bear.
A hunter of various sorts once told me that you'll need at least .303 or 30.06 for a bear, - well, he was referring to a polarbear though.
The thing is, he said, that when the bugger charges, you'll need at least that power to penetrate. If the bear is standing up and you have a perfect shot, you can even possibly drop it with a .22, but we don't live in a perfect world now, do we?
So, .30something as a minimum, and quick reload.
He said 9mm's won't do it, - sad, for I'd have picked the Tommygun ;)
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Originally posted by Angus
Here comes the anti-gun guy :D
Well, what Hangtime said is IMHO good. M1 Garand, or something without a bolt. BANGBANGBANG you see, - this is a bear.
A hunter of various sorts once told me that you'll need at least .303 or 30.06 for a bear, - well, he was referring to a polarbear though.
The thing is, he said, that when the bugger charges, you'll need at least that power to penetrate. If the bear is standing up and you have a perfect shot, you can even possibly drop it with a .22, but we don't live in a perfect world now, do we?
So, .30something as a minimum, and quick reload.
He said 9mm's won't do it, - sad, for I'd have picked the Tommygun ;)
The Thompson was a .45
h
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Originally posted by Angus
He said 9mm's won't do it, - sad, for I'd have picked the Tommygun ;)
Tommygun= .45 cal just a tad bigger
Bronk
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Black bears aren't really all that tough to kill, I've killed 3 with archery equipment and 2 with a rifle. I personally shoot a Remington .300 WinMag with 190 gr Hornady Custom bullets and dropped both in their tracks. Caliber of rifle doesn't matter as much as shot placement.
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I'd be more afraid of a grizzly. Buddy of mine just spent 7 days in Kodiak, AK and went scouting for bears with the other guy on the trip. He was armed only with a Ruger .40 pistol. Other guy had my .300 win mag rifle on loan.
I told em he could have used rocks instead of that pistol and had at least a chance of poking the bears eye out.
I'd bowhunt black bears...not a snowballs chance in hell I'd give the grizzly the same courtesy. High penetration, exploding rounds if at all possible. The 20mm hispano cannon is about what I'd want if I had to go face to face with a grizzly.
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Originally posted by SwS
Black bears aren't really all that tough to kill, I've killed 3 with archery equipment and 2 with a rifle. I personally shoot a Remington .300 WinMag with 190 gr Hornady Custom bullets and dropped both in their tracks. Caliber of rifle doesn't matter as much as shot placement.
I've dropped one with a 30.06 too. But I was hunting one and it didn't know I was there. The original poster was addressing an aggressive bear potentially attacking his wife.
Shot placement is much harder in such a situation therefore I would rely on the heavier, shockier calibers to ensure a quick kill.
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bear guns
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Very true.... It would be tough to shoot with it running down both legs.:D
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Maybe Im dyslexic
Doesnt the 2nd Ammendment give us the right to arm bears?
:)
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Originally posted by LePaul
Maybe Im dyslexic
Doesnt the 2nd Ammendment give us the right to arm bears?
:)
Yes--don't let the lib'ral bastidges take away our right to bears!
Very true.... It would be tough to shoot with it running down both legs.
You got that right :)
h
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Just one good shot with this.
With a bit of luck this also makes a nice pool in ur garden.
(http://www.paracommando.com/img/bewapening/law_01.jpg)
good luck
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i dont know how many of you guys hunt..but here in maine it is common for them"bears" to be dropped with 30/30..ie..winchester model 94 or marlin 336c
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Where in Maine are ya, bolo?
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Remember to aim high, as in head or neck!!
You could empty a clip into a bears body and miss it's vitals. At that point when you turn to run, and slip on the yellow tinted mud you just created under your feet, the bloody bear will probably claw the skin off your back, and bite half your head off..... or he might run away too.
why take the chance right... :aok
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what is a "clip"
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OK... Thanks for all the responses guys. Some comical stuff too.
For the animal lovers and anti-shoot the bear guys, calm down some. So far, the bear has only been around three times, all during night-time hours when we (myself, wife and two dogs) have been in the house.
I guess the bear likes the suet feeder on the back porch (small size about 5" square intened for the birds) We've been taking the bird feeders in at night to discourage the bear from coming back.
Any case, the bear was at the house the other morning at 6:30 AM when we let the dogs out and my wife goes out to put the feeders on their hangers again. The bear was on the ground at the base of the back deck, and we didn't know it until the dogs went crazy running down the deck stairs after it.
Fortunately, the bear saw fit to run instead of tangle with the dogs (one 6yo black lab @65 lbs and one 5yo black lab mut @63 lbs - small for labs anyway)
As far as I'm concerned, the bear can hang out all it wants and do what it wants as long as it doesn't threaten life and limb of anyone. Because it doesn't come around during the day and runs off as soon as the dogs are in the yard, animal control hasn't done anything with it yet.
I have no intention of firing unless I have to in an emergency situation. However, if I have to, I want to make sure I shoot with something that will be effective even in a panic situation (where I may not have the best aim I might usually have) - I can also shoot almost any direction from my back yard without risk of hitting anything but trees. I've got 7.5 acres, and after that its all woods for at least another 2000 yards.
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Originally posted by storch
what is a "clip"
M-1 Garand Clip:
(http://www.tapco.com/item_pics/md/MAG3602_md.jpg)
Not to be confused with a magazine which is a usually metal box that holds the rounds like on an M-16
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Midnight..... you have a GD security bear.
Really though, try changing the suet to plain seeds? The birds might ***** but still...
personally i'd make friends with the damned thing...i mean...free bear...not everyone gets that chance
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And you guys reckon Aussie wildlife is dangerous 'cause of a few creepy crawlies.
At least we dont have bloody great carnivores eyeing off our womenfolk :eek:
You need one of these. It's only a .22 and probably wont work real well on black bear, but damn it'll look cool mounted on the porch rail.
http://www.machineguns.co.nz/Products.shtml
http://www.machineguns.co.nz/movies/Gatling.mpg
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Didn't know Black Bears liked rifles... but knew they had the "Right to Bear Arms"..
*runs fer the door.....duckin*
Mac
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How many times does that joke have to be posted in one thread? Jeeze...
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i'm from bridgton lepaul..tho i grew up in sebago lake..right now in the process of buying a house in porter
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Originally posted by AWMac
Didn't know Black Bears liked rifles... but knew they had the "Right to Bear Arms"..
*runs fer the door.....duckin*
Mac
Shame on you.
:cry
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BTW, in Greenland they use 30 - 30. Isn't that just the old 30 cal?
Oh, that's for the polar bear, which is much bigger than black bear.
The penetration power is required for angles where you do NOT have a good shot.
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lol what's with all the assult rifle sugestions?
The thing is not a brown bear, its a big fat black dog with thicker skin.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
lol what's with all the assult rifle sugestions?
The thing is not a brown bear, its a big fat black dog with thicker skin.
Yeah, no kidding...
This is your only answer (http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm)
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IMO nothing smaller than a.44 magnum pistol or a .270 / .308 rifle; but a .22 hornet will kill a bear, the eskimos kill polar bears with them. I'd go with my trusty .308 M-14...but in my backyard I would have to worry about over-penetration so my pump 12 gauge would probably be my pick in town with alternating buckshot - slug - buckshot.....but that's just me.
The bear obviously isn't an immediate threat since you posted here for recommendations first...so my reccomendation is just leave it alone & let it wander on to greener pastures.
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I tend towards Dred's approach a little...
Keep running the dogs on him, take in the suet and garbage cans (if any), and even add a bunch of noise, if you have a starter pistol or something else that'll make a racket. In fact, get rid of the suet altogether, and replace it with oil seed...same high calorie feed, no smell of bear-lunch.
Black bears are not particularly aggressive, and are mostly attracted to the smell of food. The ones we find approaching homes around here (yup, Jersey's actually crawling with 'em) are usually two year old males who have just been run off by Mom, and are looking for a territory.
They usually end up in the newest McMansion neighborhoods (the ones that were woods last year) with all the NYC urbanites moving in and leaving trash cans and BBQ grills outside...Then they start squealing like a stuck pig when one shows up, and then they want them all killed for their own 'personal safety'. Pffft. Buncha scardypants Nancy's. I notice they don't much like the sight of trees, either, come to think of it.
Dogs, no food and lotsa noise and he'll probably move along towards a more peaceful place to settle in.
If you can avoid it, try not to kill him...IMO.
Luck!
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I'm too lazy to read all these replies....
7mm magnum.
That'll put him in the bone yard.