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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: jpeg on July 01, 2006, 02:25:07 PM
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This is the screenshot you asked for, gave me message that you collided with me, I tried to avoid it by diviing.
http://steveo.us/ahss8.jpg (http://steveo.us/ahss8.jpg)
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Originally posted by jpeg
gave me message that you collided with me, I tried to avoid it by diviing.
By HT's explaination, you DID avoid him, because it didn't give you the message that YOU colided with him. The server awarded you the either because you got hits on him, or he died before you did, I think I heard the one who lives longest get the kill, but not sure on this.
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Y'know, I think a good compromise on this whole collisions issue is to ONLY record a collision as having occured if BOTH front ends see it happen.
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Nah... It's very rare that BOTH will, in fact the only time you will get that is HO, Hitech said in the con podcast files. Listen to 2 of 3 (I think that's the one) it explains collisions pretty well.
Also I believe Hitech mentioned (in the podcast) that the radius for instant kills in collisions is small. Outside of that, if they flutter to the ground, they're fair game. However if they blow up instantly you get the kill. It was probably an instant-explosion in this case. Either that, or he saw he was without wings and ejected immediately (thus giving you the kill).
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Originally posted by Krusty
Hitech said in the con podcast files. Listen to 2 of 3 (I think that's the one) it explains collisions pretty well.
nope, its in episode 1
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Ah, thank you.
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Why do people get upset about Rams or Collisions. We all know it is FAR from a perfect system in the game. Deal with it and move on.
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Originally posted by Saxman
Y'know, I think a good compromise on this whole collisions issue is to ONLY record a collision as having occured if BOTH front ends see it happen.
not a bad idea.
wonder if it's do'able.
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It would mean no collisions at all, basically
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hondo your avatar suk's...pppphhhffttt
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
Why do people get upset about Rams or Collisions. We all know it is FAR from a perfect system in the game. Deal with it and move on.
I think it isn't FAR from perfect.
I like the collision modeling the way it is.
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Originally posted by doobs
hondo your avatar suk's...pppphhhffttt
So does yours, but life goes on. :)
Call HT, they probably remove this one too it ya complain about it.
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
We all know it is FAR from a perfect system in the game.
I disagree. The collision model is perfect. If I do not collide, I do not take damage. If I collide, I take damage. Perfect.
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Originally posted by E25280
I disagree. The collision model is perfect. If I do not collide, I do not take damage. If I collide, I take damage. Perfect.
Disagree all ya want, Didn't say I didn't like it, said it's not perfect. If you think it's Perfect that's cool.
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
Deal with it and move on.
Should have edited it more closely in my original post (fixed now) -- this part I agree with completely! :aok
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Originally posted by Krusty
Nah... It's very rare that BOTH will, in fact the only time you will get that is HO, Hitech said in the con podcast files.
snippage
Ummmm........
(http://home.rgv.rr.com/casamyers/collision.jpg)
I woke up with a P38 diving on my six. This happened when I couldn't otherwise shake him, and tried to force an overshoot. Definitely not a headon.
culero
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I'm not complaining, and I understand roughly why it is the way it is. However in the (many) recent threads on the issue no one said anything about only recording it if both see it so I thought I'd toss it in there. :p
Incidentally, I been rear-ended and had a collision recorded on both occurances, too.
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I'm not complaining about the collision model, he asked for the screenshot and I posted it.
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
By HT's explaination, you DID avoid him, because it didn't give you the message that YOU colided with him. The server awarded you the either because you got hits on him, or he died before you did, I think I heard the one who lives longest get the kill, but not sure on this.
Yes I did get hits on him, bunch of hisp. cannons shots from my hurr IIC
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Originally posted by Krusty
Nah... It's very rare that BOTH will, in fact the only time you will get that is HO, Hitech said in the con podcast files. B]
I wouldnt call it rare Krusty. I get it quite often. Then again Im just lucky like that.:D
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HT's favorite description of collisions is that every player is towing a drone through the air. It's behind them on (hypothetically) a 50-foot cable. Now you can't see any other player, you can just see their drone. If you hit that drone, you take damage. If you fly through where the player is, their drone is not in the same space, and you don't hit. If they fly through your drone, they take damage. Now the fact that you're both trailing drones means that for BOTH of you to hit each others' drone, you have to be either directly head-on (not uncommon in AH) or less likely you have to be in some kind of tail chase, something where the paths of the drones are the same and one is closing on the other.
Off-angle double collisions are highly unlikely, because either one of you could hit the drone, but it's not likely you both will (you can't both be behind each other at the same time, see what I mean?)
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Originally posted by Saxman
Y'know, I think a good compromise on this whole collisions issue is to ONLY record a collision as having occured if BOTH front ends see it happen.
HT said he's tried this in another game. It was a nightmare.
Because the double collision is so rare compared to our current system (see Krusty's posts above), a double collision or nothing system would dramatically reduce the penalty for flying through the opponent. That means real ACM.. based on angles and getting a good solution, would be a DISADVANTAGE since the dweeb gains gun time by aiming right at you and letting guns rip durting the time that you're angling for a clean shot.
I like this AH much better than that one would be.
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Originally posted by Simaril
I like this AH much better than that one would be.
Same here Simaril. I think Hitech has done a great job on our current collision model. Even if I do die from it alot.
Lambo