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Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: Flayed1 on July 02, 2006, 02:46:16 PM
Last night I logged on and saw that the Bish were getting rolled AGAIN.
Rooks were doing everthing that we should have been doing but when someone would put up a mission they would only get 2 or 3 people to join.

  So I decided I would do what I could to stem the flow of the evil rooks invading our sacred Bish territory.  
 
  I started the night by uping an AR-234  and porked 31's troops then turned north east to strike deeper into nme territory bombing 2 more barraks and turning for home.  On the way back I started thinking up a plan with ThndrEgg to take a few flights of B-17's up into orbit and do a long ranging deep strike on as many Rook Barraks as we could but just in the few minuits it took me to get my jet landed they had taken 2 more of our bases and the barraks I had just bombed had been ressuplied. :eek:

  It was then decided that we had no time to get our 17's to the alt we would need for such a grand mission.
   
  We then roused the few BOP's that were on and we began to pork troops at any base that had them.  We used N1K's, Ponys, KI-67's, P-38's and even a 262.

  After a while we saw a change in Rook bahavior, all of the sudden the Rook/Knight front wasn't a stalemate any more. The Rooks were now agressivly pushing into Knight territory.

  It was on one of the last 38 runs that someone made a rather silly comment to me.
   
  I along with ThndrEgg and Bayonet had climbed to 20K in our 38-L's to avoid running into any unwanted attention on the way to our objective.  After several minuits there it was, V-61.   The rooks had been using this Vbase as a ressuply hub for A19 and A25.  We dove down, Thndr took out the 2 huts while I and Bayonet began working on the tents.

 After they were down I asked Bayonet how much ord he had left  "All of it" he replied.   I knew that Thndr didn't have much left so I had him escort Bayonet to the medium base to the west, I still had 7 rockets left so I turned east for the troops at A21.

 Thndrs Vioce came over the radio "We have a con on our 12 low..... It's a 110, he won't be able to catch us lets push on to target".
  They got over the base and took out both barraks in quick succession Thndr went down and reports came back that the rooks were trying to force him to give up the location of Falconwng's Sheep.

  While this was all going down I had made it to A21 and began my dive on the troops and an Ostwind made it's way out in front of the huts. I fired off my rockets the same time as he seperated my right wing from the rest of the plane .  I saw the huts explode just befor my wounded bird plowed into the ground.

  Right after this the guy in the osty (obviously upset because his uber osty skills couldn't stop me)  pipes up on 200 "You can't fight so you pork."  

  I really didn't understand this statement. I would like to state that I nore any of my squad mates have any aversion to fighting.  And I don't know what he was whining about because so many of the furball guys have stated that they would be happy if there were no troops then there would be nothing but a big furball.  Also I nore any of the guys flying with me were in any way stoping this guy from "fighting", there was a good furball going strong all night between A1 and A19 as always.  Actually it sounds to me as if this guy was upset that we were interupting his strat play. :)

   The story dosn't end there.  Thndr and I were both down after this run and checking strat. While we were porking troops up north the Rook Ant supply runners had managed to get troops up at 19, 25 and 31.... AGAIN!!!

  We already had squad members on the way to 19 and 25 so Thndr and I decided to take the 38's up for 31. we climbed up to 15K and had gone lvl when we see a spit 16 at our low 12.  We went light and started to out run him, our objective was after all the troops at 31.  
  When what do we see but a squad dot on the map over 31.. We call out for identification on that dot and who was it but Bayonet LOL. He had some how managed to escape from that medium base 1.5 sectors NE of 31 and still had rockets to spare! He nailed the troops at 31.

  With our objective gone Thndr and I went left and right to face the Spit16.  The spit went up and over getting on my 6 about 800 out so I continued to drag him while Thndr dropped in on on him.
   The spit pilot looked back seeing Egg and dove down and left coming back up as Thndr turned around and they merged head on neither of them getting any hits. Then it looked as if the spit was gonna run back to base, we hung high and were gonna let him go but then he turned back coming up at us again.
 
  The spit merged with Thndr and fired off some rounds, none of them connecting and I merged diving on his 9 stiching 50cal and cannon rounds right up his left wing. I looked back to see him flopping around with only 1 wing. I gave Cuffs a quick  and we returned to base.



  I have to give the rook ressuply guys a  most people would have given up as much as we were porking. Thats dedication.
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: lambo31 on July 02, 2006, 07:14:20 PM
Thanx for the AAR Flayed, I enjoyed reading it.


Lambo
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: Reynolds on July 02, 2006, 10:11:51 PM
Yes. I think us knights need to get more organized. Ive never seen more than 2 of us trying to resuply, and people never want to join anyones mission.
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: E25280 on July 02, 2006, 10:29:38 PM
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originally posted by Flayed1
Right after this the guy in the osty (obviously upset because his uber osty skills couldn't stop me) pipes up on 200 "You can't fight so you pork." . . . . . . Actually it sounds to me as if this guy was upset that we were interupting his strat play.
I've seen a few people complain about base porkers being mirror images to the greifers who try to take FT or TT bases, that they are "trying to ruin the win-the-war guys' fun".  This has always seemed a bit silly to me.  Denying your enemy the ability to wage offensive war by disrupting their logistics is a part of any war (even a game-war).  It is the core of any strategy that has a hope of victory for your side.  I would think any win-the-war type (with half a brain)would recognize that.

Is it annoying?  Sure, it can be.  But what's the point in berating someone for it?  Up a few M3s or C47s and fix it if it bothers you that the troops are down.
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: 1epic1 on July 02, 2006, 11:37:17 PM
Knights are filled with noobs, when a new person comes on the first thing they say is "I WANT TO BE A KNIGHT!"

Im a rook, when we start going nothing will stop us...not even 262s, maybe 3 but not 2
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: Reynolds on July 02, 2006, 11:40:21 PM
Well, i started as a knight because of the 332nd Flying Mongrels. THey flew knights so so did I. But no one gets organized!!!
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: tedrbr on July 03, 2006, 02:27:56 AM
This AAR could just as easily be a Rook view of fighting a Bish advance.

I've upped buffs to take down troops and ord at bases in the effort to stop a Bish advance, I've even targeted fuel when getting frustrated at seeing many many (many) LaLas, Spities, and Typhies operating in one area......only to see a resupply effort get those strats back up in a short time.  

So quick and often at times, I've started to question what other changes were made in the last patches that I don't know about yet.

Unless its an adjustment to resupply convoy effects or frequency, or respawn times from a patch to strats, then it is dedicated resupply people .... more than likely doing it to build vehicle perkies to run Tigers more often than not... although others serious about getting their offensives back in gear.

Of course, when the ONLY strat porked at any one base is troops, less resupply effort generally needed to bring it back up again.  It's actually better to take out the dar and ord before the troops if possible, since they come back generally in the order they were hit.  More effort required to resupply.

Strategic bombing in the MA is almost conducted as poorly as carrier operations are.  And carrier operations are really bad in MA.  I've seen many flights of buffs and large missions lift to hit many hangars in an area, but unless you are ready to follow up a raid like that almost immediately with a base capture mission..... it is ultimately a waste of time and ordanace.  The hangars pop back up before the buffs manage to land back at base.  More often than not, no one capitalizes on it.

And rarely do I see facilities or cities hit, unless very closely located to a friendly base..... cities resupply the factories and HQ,  factories resupply the strats, both through the drone convoys.

As to HQ raids.  Again, unless the zone city and nearby troops/supplies hit, it becomes too easy to resupply and get it back up again.

Lordy help the MA if a squadren of buff drivers ever unite to conduct widespread, intelligent, strategic bombing in a map.  They'd be able to shut down entire zones to offensive operations by a country.
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: lambo31 on July 03, 2006, 07:48:26 AM
I believe Flayed1 is a Rook


Lambo
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: thndregg on July 03, 2006, 11:04:09 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lambo31
I believe Flayed1 is a Rook


Lambo

*Cough, cough!** * * What?!? :huh
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: Kev367th on July 03, 2006, 11:29:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lambo31
I believe Flayed1 is a Rook


Lambo


OMG, burn him, burn him.
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: lambo31 on July 03, 2006, 11:31:28 AM
oops, sorry, miss read it. apologies Flayed


Lambo
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: bj229r on July 03, 2006, 07:21:31 PM
AHEM..Rooks rarely do organized missions, and I can't remember the last time I saw a Rook resuppply a base, aside from recently captured bases from cv's
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: jamesdeanoo7 on July 04, 2006, 02:40:58 PM
Ok, I dont use the boards often but reading these posts is confusing.... true I have always been a rook but to be honest I have always thought the bishops and knights run more  missions and are more co-ordinated. I have always thought most rooks arent interested in base captures. As for running supplies for the first 3 months thats really all I did whilst trying to learn this game. I personally spend alot of time hitting factories and other strat targets, I enjoy n.o.e. work( I have to get in and get out as I cant fly a fighter for crap as you all know lol ) Also not being in a squad means I have to try to work out what I am doing a bit more carefully For me I am grateful for the new friends I have made playing this game and I might add they are not all rooks. winning is not as important to me as how I play the game. Good luck to you all. jdjnr:aok
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: Coronado on July 04, 2006, 03:14:10 PM
holy friggin cow...jd posted!!:eek:
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: Coronado on July 04, 2006, 03:16:30 PM
as much as we allll hate porkers.... it's necessary to halt advancement.often do it myself and occassionaly come up with an excellent 1v1, provided ack didnt rip me up or i have fuel left. it's not s glamorous job, but someones gotta do it!:aok
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: jamesdeanoo7 on July 04, 2006, 04:21:31 PM
:O  Hey coronado ?Yes I finally got up the courage to put up a post. But when you are 80 lbs and 4 ft nothing it takes spit to post something especially when your claim to fame is bombing a cow in the next field to an airbase thus depriving the enemy of their burgers. I am so short I have a cushion in my tank and turnups on my boxers.
Title: Porking Troops. An AAR
Post by: Flayed1 on July 04, 2006, 05:01:24 PM
Yeah what Thndr said..... Hack hack hmmm

  I have never in my 2.5 to 3 years on AH been anything other than bish....
  I'm not saying that the other sides are absolute evil but ME  a ROOK Ha HA HA HA HA :rofl :lol
   BTW is the pay any better???  How bout the sheep??? Bish sheep are SOOOOOOOO soft and fuzzy I always thought rooks were into goats..:D
 and the Nits LLama's ? :confused: :huh
 
 I love you all...;)