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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: helbent on July 03, 2006, 08:21:20 AM
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While defending a field today, i was patrolling for inb goons, while dodging a 47N that didnt want to engage, i spot a goon coming out of nme field. Hajo states "nik you are warping bad", "nik at 121 you are warping bad", then somone else comes on "nik relog you are wapring badly" Diving on the goon I come 200 and say "rgr" then proceed to break off and turn S for home. I didnt fire a shot at the goon, but the newbie must of augered. As I am leaving the fight, these 2 boneheads are engageing me no matter my protest on 200. Needless to say hajo shoots me down.
In my eyes it was a low-down dirty kill on his part. So I ask you, what would you have done? Would you break off or keep fighting. Also, would you allow a warper that disengages to rtb?
I know I did the honorable thing by ending my attack, but im not sure Id do it again.
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This may sound cruel, but who cares? Did getting shot down do anything to you? Is your family getting a telegram? No, in fact it was better that way so you could relog and join the fun once again a little quicker.
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I woulda wasted the goon:aok
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Originally posted by SuperDud
I woulda wasted the goon:aok
me too.
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yeah kill the goon always. helps your rank.
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Relog after the sortie and never expect to get a free pass in the MA.:aok
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So, youd also probably kill the warper that broke off too?
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I did not watch the scene but was a witness to your ch200 "conversations". To me it seemed just a big misunderstanding. While you did say "rgr" it was not really clear that it was you who was in that warpy Niki. That "rgr" could have been part of another communication on Ch200. So they probably just did not realized you were NOT diving to get their goon. And I have to admit that with a goon around I would most probably done the same thing as your enemies. "rgr, disengaging, will relog" or similar would have been a bit clearer.
(And a personal remark: calling out names on 200 afterwards does never help to clear up the situation ;) )
So lighten up, itīs just a game, and sometimes things just dont go as we wish they do. Dont take this too seriously!
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Yes. How am I supposed to know he's breaking off? Better to kill him then assume he's out of the fight and he picks you a few seconds later. You broke off your engagment because you felt you were warping and it was an unfair advantage. Thats cool and good mannersin the MA. But dont expect to get a freebie to rtb. Even if you have communicated to the guys you were fighting with that the fights over, it doesnt stop one of their countrymen from trying to kill you. He may not have seen 200 or he doesnt care.
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this is exactly why channel 200 should go away.......
did the brits talk to the germans on radio while blowing them out of the sky.......:rolleyes:
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imho, u did right thing by disengaging. maby was a misunderstanding as far as u getting shot down. was the warp call a trick maby? to get u thinking about something else? dunno. 1 time i called rtb ammo to a jug that just kept on attacking. no big deal. thing was, i still had a few cannon left and had to dispatch him. he then said "i thought u were out of ammo" oh well. as for me. where quarter is asked. quarter is given.
just S! the person and drive on
S! all
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Originally posted by SuperDud
I woulda wasted the goon:aok
ditto
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Originally posted by SuperDud
I woulda wasted the goon:aok
and hoed the Bore n Snorers before landing 3 kills and reloggin
edit: that being said, hajo is a gentleman and i know he wouldnt intentionaly set u up.
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
this is exactly why channel 200 should go away.......
did the brits talk to the germans on radio while blowing them out of the sky.......:rolleyes:
Dunno about the Brits Vs the Jerries but the Japanesse certainly conversed with the American pilots, inviting the Corsairs down to lower alt to fight their Zeros
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interesting......
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
this is exactly why channel 200 should go away.......
did the brits talk to the germans on radio while blowing them out of the sky.......:rolleyes:
Only when they were bombing Pearl Harbor.
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Hellbent,
If somebody calls out a warping enema plane, and doesnt "see" the response on 200 they would probably shoot it down, just so they can identify the pilot and PM him, or call him out specifically on 200.
I certainly wouldnt take offense by them shooting you down and not seeing a "rgr" on 200.
Balsy
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Expect no quarter to be given in the MA.
It does happen..... just don't EXPECT it.
Civility and chivolry will not be expected until release of AH:WWI.... and there we'll drop flowers over enemy airfields when we kilt one of theirs.
Got a problem with a warper....film it, post it, send in a complaint.... but bad connections do happen..... if ALOT of complaints come in on a particular individual, take his 300 baud modem away from him. I don't like the plane 400 off my nose suddenly apprearing 200 off my six either, but it happens. Part of online gaming against real-life opponents.
There are many such issues in game. Take flamers (aircraft, not posts). Some folks HATE it when someone kill steals a plane they set on fire. With a buff... unless it is about to drop on a base/town, I agree: leave it be.
But with a fighter..... you set one on fire, YOU stay behind that bird until it goes boom, or YOU put it down yourself. Some of these torch-planes will fly around forever.... and will still be dangerous to other pilots.
I see an unattended flamer, I'll trail it.... but I won't fire unless it starts to line up another friendly in its sights. Just an example of courtesy and tactics in use in game.
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I caught my 5 year old son was flying last night. He was supposed to be in bed. I walked in on him just as he was trying to shoot down a goon. I scared him half to death and he missed the shot and then augered....in a Chog.
He was trying to talk to people on range channel, so I am sorry if he said anything silly.
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shoot the goon then suck the whiner in and shoot him down then land the kills relog and rejoice in the whining beside half of warping whines are caused by the whiner warping and not the whinie
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no quarter in MA..we all know this..sometimes it stinks but just accept it..i warp alot now due to dial up issues, for some reason people think its an advantage..trust me it aint...when someone says i warped its usually after i fired 300 rounds where an aircraft was and then die to a plane that past me 3 seconds ago..
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Originally posted by Curval
I caught my 5 year old son was flying last night. He was supposed to be in bed. I walked in on him just as he was trying to shoot down a goon. I scared him half to death and he missed the shot and then augered....in a Chog.
He was trying to talk to people on range channel, so I am sorry if he said anything silly.
:rofl :D :aok
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Originally posted by icemaw
shoot the goon then suck the whiner in and shoot him down then land the kills relog and rejoice in the whining
Behold, the only bit of wisdom in this thread. Ironic, given the source, but whatever.
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about 3/4 of the time that ppl say "so and so is warping" that player is not warping at all to me.
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Originally posted by TinmanX
Dunno about the Brits Vs the Jerries but the Japanesse certainly conversed with the American pilots, inviting the Corsairs down to lower alt to fight their Zeros
This is 100% true. I saw it on Black Sheep Squadron. :rofl
Originally posted by helbent
So, youd also probably kill the warper that broke off too?
IMHO, you must not have been warping too badly, or else, how the heck did they ping you?
Actually, if possible, I would shoot down the warper first, then tell him "While your down, you may want to consider relogging as you were warping SOOOO badly, I actually hit you (impossible under normal circumstances)."
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
this is exactly why channel 200 should go away.......
did the brits talk to the germans on radio while blowing them out of the sky.......
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Only when they were bombing Pearl Harbor.
I don't think the brits bombed pearl harbor. I mean they may have considered the movie a bomb. I don't know.
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Id keep fighting, i need the kills. But if YOU tell a warper to RTB, you let him live. if you dont, you are one dirty tird.
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OK gents helbent is talking about me. I saw him warping during the engagement and did break telling him he was warping, a few others around saw the same thing. Now...this is not unusual.....we've all warped at one time or another.
As I said I did break. I had the definate speed advantage in an N Jug. I did not see the "rgr" on 200. could have been looking at the map..don't know. But I did continue to watch the N1K. I saw the N1K diving towards a Bish aircraft....so...I did what I should have done attempt to clear the 6 of the Bish aircraft, I shot the N1K down.
Now.....many of you know that I have let aircraft rtb when in an engagement for different reasons, fuel, ammo, etc. If I'd have seen the rgr. on channel 200 (my text buffer is 3 lines only) I'd have staid clear.
One I didn't see the rgr, and 2 saw the N1K diving to the Bish aircraft.
I don't need the kills and could care less about them. Never played for score in Aces High and never will. Play for the fun and I don't want to spoil others fun.
Sorry Helbent I truly didn't see your "rgr" on the text buffer. If it were me I'd have just augered and checked my connection anyway...probably re logged to make sure. Guess that's the difference in which we play the game. We all pay our 15 dollars and taking that into consideration we can't judge on how others play the game.
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Originally posted by helbent
While defending a field today, i was patrolling for inb goons, while dodging a 47N that didnt want to engage, i spot a goon coming out of nme field. Hajo states "nik you are warping bad", "nik at 121 you are warping bad", then somone else comes on "nik relog you are wapring badly" Diving on the goon I come 200 and say "rgr" then proceed to break off and turn S for home. I didnt fire a shot at the goon, but the newbie must of augered. As I am leaving the fight, these 2 boneheads are engageing me no matter my protest on 200. Needless to say hajo shoots me down.
In my eyes it was a low-down dirty kill on his part. So I ask you, what would you have done? Would you break off or keep fighting. Also, would you allow a warper that disengages to rtb?
I know I did the honorable thing by ending my attack, but im not sure Id do it again.
Dont listen to the enemy who has every intention of shooting digital bullets at you. You dont even know if you were in fact warping, it was probably just a rouse to get you away from the goon.
There is no honor in the MA.
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Just because one player says you are warping is certainly no cause to auger. There are countless ways that your connection could be just fine and the problem is on their end. Just play the game, and check it out later if you think you need to, net status ect.
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Hajo is one of the more honorable guys in this game.Ive flown with him for games.AW and AH.If he says something,you can believe it,unless that something is that Im a fantastic fighter jock.Then ya know hes fulla bull.:furious
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There's a channel 200?
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Originally posted by ridley1
There's a channel 200?
unfortunatly
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Always kill everyone around you.
Hope this helps.
Ren
The Damned.
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
Always kill everyone around you.
Hope this helps.
Ren
The Damned.
I tried that Ren..... but first off, the greens are boring, they never evade... and i *always* end up in tower, getting killed by an unseen opponent. I must still be doing something wrong.... I will come by the TA soon, maybe someone can tell me whats off. :D
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Originally posted by ridley1
There's a channel 200?
Yes. Its that channel you were gabbing on tonight.:D
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I don't monitor 200...I don't talk on 200, and I don't really see a need to talk to somebody on 'the other side'
This thread is a case in point. Mistaken intentions? Active deception? Unchivalrous behaviour? Or....they don't monitor 200?
If you're on it..well that's fine. If you're not...well...that's fine too.
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Originally posted by SuperDud
I woulda wasted the goon:aok
Obviously i woulda taken the goon, but i woulda stayed and killed till ded
then relogged and appologized for warps :rofl
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Originally posted by ridley1
I don't monitor 200...I don't talk on 200, and I don't really see a need to talk to somebody on 'the other side'
This thread is a case in point. Mistaken intentions? Active deception? Unchivalrous behaviour? Or....they don't monitor 200?
If you're on it..well that's fine. If you're not...well...that's fine too.
Yeah, it was RileyB. oops
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...ridley...riley.....what's in a letter?
Difference is...he's probably good. I've been PM'd and told to take up basketweaving and re-evaluate my sexual orientation.
Besides, I get all my enemy intelligence from the newbs on the help channel.
It's actually pretty accurate; but, I digress.
And Slash....no offence taken. :aok
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Originally posted by ridley1
I've been PM'd and told to take up basketweaving and re-evaluate my sexual orientation.
:rofl
I get that alot too:(
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Originally posted by Schatzi
I tried that Ren..... but first off, the greens are boring, they never evade... and i *always* end up in tower, getting killed by an unseen opponent. I must still be doing something wrong.... I will come by the TA soon, maybe someone can tell me whats off. :D
lmao
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chan 200 imho is for giving
's and WTG's and TY's. God created VOX so i don't have to watch the script channels, and for all those that have tried to text me and get no response, you know what i am talking about.:D
back to the original post.....
KILL the Goon.
RTB, and engage all those that engage you.
Land or get killed.
Re-log to rid the warp monsters.
Re-up and have fun.!!!:aok
MAN-LAW!
(pops cap on beer and raises to all others)
<>28
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It wasnt a poll, but it seems that everyone is onto kill the goon and kill the warper (no quater). I'll leave it at that.
Hajo, we were on the deck for a bit also, which is where i was also protesting. Oh well, little frustarated with new stik and then that set me off. I apologize for my language to you and anyone else I offended.
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You got what you deserved for letting the goon go!!!!!!!!!!!!
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helbent no apology necessary! Sometimes we get a bit carried away with our emotions. And sometimes we forget it's just a game.
Soooooooo.....get used to that new Fighter Stick.....it's a good one.
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why bother rtb'ing? why not just crash or alt f4 to relog?
you dont really die, ya know!
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Originally posted by Furball
why bother rtb'ing? why not just crash or alt f4 to relog?
you dont really die, ya know!
Points. some folks (Me) REALLY need them.
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do points mean prizes?
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Originally posted by Furball
do points mean prizes?
Yes. Your first prize will be 2 hours with me in DA.....
PS: Reynolds, there will come a time (hopefully soon) where you realize for yourself that points/score are not important, but friends and fun are :).
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maybe his points are his only friends?
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Originally posted by helbent
So, youd also probably kill the warper that broke off too?
Uh, I'd kill anything that flies, drives, floats or walks.
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Originally posted by Schatzi
Yes. Your first prize will be 2 hours with me in DA....
Flying or on the back office couch in the O'club?:D
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Originally posted by SkyRock
Flying or on the back office couch in the O'club?:D
Pig :)
Furball - flying; only Schutt got couch privvies.
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so we are joining the 'Mile High Club'?
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*We* are not joining anything... Im going to stay secretive about any membership in that club. What *you* are doing in your N1K while we are duelling isnt really my business .... :D