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Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: lazs2 on July 03, 2006, 08:29:55 AM
national public radio....  Work car has a radio.... radio isw nothing but commercials for 12 stations in a row.... hit seek

forgot how bad it was...  Can't believe we are forced to pay for this drivel...  At the same time.... I can see how it would not exist if it had to support itself.

Reviews of books by gay writers.   "debate" where a far left person takes one side and someone just very much left countrerbalances him.

Every lefty view ever espoused it brought up as simple known fact.

They even have the gall to call themselves "community supported radio".... like anyone had a choice?   Everything is political to them and everything political is only "correct" if it is lunitic fringe leftist.  

Non gay autor is being interviewed about non gay subject.... Subject is FDR... author is in love with FDR...  the birth of socialism...  Says we would not have things like fema without FDR or social security or welfare....  Acts like this would be a bad thing.   interviewer gushes.

So far they have not said one thing that I would not disagree with.   180 degrees out.  

If the "debate" about global warming and our affect on it is over... then why to they have to keep saying so every ten minutes even wnen not even talking about climate?

The whole show has such an air of propoganda and dishonesty that it is allmost laughable.

lazs
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Shuckins on July 03, 2006, 08:41:47 AM
Sneering and contemptuous...at least that's the impression I got of it the times I've listened to it.  You can hear it in their voices when the dj's and commentators refer to ANY right-wing position or champion.

I was going to state at this point that a station funded by tax money ought to, at the very least, PRETEND to be fair and unbiased...and then I realized that that is EXACTLY what they do...pretend.
Title: Re: been listening to some npr..
Post by: beet1e on July 03, 2006, 11:34:56 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
radio isw nothing but commercials for 12 stations in a row....
That's capitalism for you! :lol
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Sandman on July 03, 2006, 11:49:02 AM
FWIW, NPR receives just 2% of its funding from the federal government.

As to bias, this is what FAIR had to say (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1180) about NPR in 2004.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Chairboy on July 03, 2006, 11:52:11 AM
2% public funding?  I imagine that the commercial stations you like receive quite a bit more in tax relief.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: SFCHONDO on July 03, 2006, 12:18:20 PM
Thank God for XM radio. Music, Music music.  :D
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Shuckins on July 03, 2006, 12:19:31 PM
Actually, NPR was 100% funded by the federal government 20 years ago.  Criticism from the right curtailed some of that...but NPR still gets a large chunk of its funding from CPB, which is heavily funded by the federal government.

As to fairness, the political commentaries I have heard broadcast by them seem to be heavily partisan.

Just my impression of course.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 03, 2006, 12:31:05 PM
The original name of NPR was not NPR, but very similar, and ironic too.


5 points to the person who can tell me the original name.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Sandman on July 03, 2006, 12:37:08 PM
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Originally posted by Shuckins
Actually, NPR was 100% funded by the federal government 20 years ago.  Criticism from the right curtailed some of that...but NPR still gets a large chunk of its funding from CPB, which is heavily funded by the federal government.


Doh... you're right. I looked through the CPB site and the NPR site, and I can't figure out how much money they get from CPB.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Hap on July 03, 2006, 12:38:23 PM
i listen to and enjoy npr more than the "yelling heads."

hap
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Yeager on July 03, 2006, 01:16:26 PM
the politics on npr are for liberal socialists, no good for anyone else.  the science and arts on npr are worth listening to.  the trick is to get in and out before the drubbing starts.  But I havent listened to npr for a long time now.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: rpm on July 03, 2006, 01:21:00 PM
Lazs in a nutshell: If it ain't Limbaugh, it's lefty.
Title: Re: Re: been listening to some npr..
Post by: SOB on July 03, 2006, 01:34:32 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
That's capitalism for you! :lol

Capitalism, in this case, is the choice to listen to the commercials, or spring for XM or Serius Satellite Radio.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: lazs2 on July 03, 2006, 02:19:22 PM
thanks sandie... the fair article was good... seems about everyone believes they are far left.  83% of all their info comes from "journalists"?   of which...  over 80% are considered liberal as a class... even if they were picking em randomly they would have better than 80% of their content fed to em by liberals

2% of their funding is tax money?  I would have to see a source on that... I do know that they were 100% not long ago.   If it is only 2% then why bother?   They don't need it.   I did notice a lot more commercials than I recall they had in the past.

Sob... thanks  beat me too it... capitalism is satalite radio in my Lincoln and big block noises in my el camino.   Both of which beat anything I could listen too in limey land.

Just heard em say that they were doing a show on "fear"  they gave the example of how people are more afraid of global terrorism than of global warming even tho (as everyone surely knows...) global warming is the the more serious threat!

yeah... if you are a socialist and your name is chicken little!


What I think is funny is that the right wing stations aren't afraid to be called so but the left wingers are so dishonest and evasive about the word "liberal".

Why are so many liberals ashamed of being identified as such?

lazs
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Lye-El on July 03, 2006, 03:35:47 PM
I listen to NPR more than any other radio station. Just not for politics or music. News, car talk and such. I can't stand regular radio because of all the advertising. Same problem trying to sit down and watch the news on TV. Keeps going to commerical. And all the channels go at the same time. :furious
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Sandman on July 03, 2006, 04:00:42 PM
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Originally posted by Shuckins
Actually, NPR was 100% funded by the federal government 20 years ago.  Criticism from the right curtailed some of that...but NPR still gets a large chunk of its funding from CPB, which is heavily funded by the federal government.

As to fairness, the political commentaries I have heard broadcast by them seem to be heavily partisan.

Just my impression of course.


Okay... I found this document (http://blumenauer.house.gov/publicbroadcastingfacts.pdf) concerning public broadcasting.

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Public broadcasting reported total income of $2.3 billion in FY2003 (the most recent data available). The federal contribution made up about 15% of the system’s total income. The remaining 85% was raised from non-federal sources (individuals, businesses, foundations, state and local governments, and educational institutions). The largest single income source (26% in FY2003) came from membership. Neither PBS nor NPR receives operating funds from the CPB; only the local member stations receive these funds directly.


So... money goes from the government to CPB, to the local stations, and then from them to NPR.

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Overall, 14.9% of all public television and radio broadcasting funding comes from the federal appropriations that CPB distributes. However, among individual members of PBS, NPR, and PRI, the amount of federal dollars that contributes to a station’s annual budget depends on the size of that station’s budget, the type of broadcast content developed or purchased, and the specificity of individual grants awarded to these stations.


Total CPB appropriation is $400 million.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Sandman on July 03, 2006, 04:08:04 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2

2% of their funding is tax money?  I would have to see a source on that... I do know that they were 100% not long ago.   If it is only 2% then why bother?   They don't need it.   I did notice a lot more commercials than I recall they had in the past.


It's 2% directly. As Shuckints pointed out, the NPR does receive additional CPB funding via the local stations.

I can only assume that stations vary. The local here is KCRW out of Santa Monica. They don't run commercials.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Mustaine on July 03, 2006, 04:08:41 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
The original name of NPR was not NPR, but very similar, and ironic too.


5 points to the person who can tell me the original name.
all i can find is:

APR?



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MPR established American Public Radio (APR, now known as Public Radio International or PRI)
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: GtoRA2 on July 03, 2006, 04:22:10 PM
National peoples radio would fit their ajenda better.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Chairboy on July 03, 2006, 04:22:43 PM
I believe APR is one of NPR's competitors.

Here's a good article on NPR and it's history:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Public_Radio

No mention of it being called "The Communist Network" or the "Workers of the World Radio", if that's what Lasersailor is looking for.  :D
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Holden McGroin on July 03, 2006, 05:32:05 PM
Can't find anything on what NPR was called before it was NPR, but he may be referring to a public radio network that predates NPR.

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Pacifica was founded in 1946 by pacifist Lewis Hill who was born in Kansas City, Missouri in 1919. During World War II he filed as a conscientious objector. After the war he and a small group of ex-conscientious objectors created the Pacifica Foundation. The foundation's first project, KPFA in Berkeley, California, was inaugurated in 1949.  


Pacifica Radio Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifica_Radio)
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Gunslinger on July 03, 2006, 05:40:06 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Doh... you're right. I looked through the CPB site and the NPR site, and I can't figure out how much money they get from CPB.


Sandy you ever catch the John and Ken show on KFI out there?  I listened to them pretty regularly and they aren't at all limbaugh conservatives (meaning they disagree with the president publicly as much as they agree with him)  Iliked them alot because they weren't so far to the right.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Sandman on July 03, 2006, 05:45:53 PM
I can't stand KFI. Way WAY too much advertising.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 03, 2006, 05:58:37 PM
Nope, the answer is really simple.  It's extremely similar to NPR, just one word added to it.
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: Debonair on July 04, 2006, 12:30:47 AM
is the word "sucks"or is it "igotthisjobbecausemyhdadknowy ousyourdad"?
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: dmf on July 04, 2006, 01:55:26 AM
http://www.maxfm.fm  No politics, just a few commericals, and traffic/weather
their motto ( shut up and rock )
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: lazs2 on July 04, 2006, 09:39:19 AM
well.... seems that NPR's latest budget was about 150 million.   Mcdonalds gave them a 200 million dollar grant so they should be able to operate for quite some time.

It seems that the government funnels about 15% of the money needed to run the stations to them in various ways.

It is so biased that I don't believe that my money should go to it.  I think they should have to compete just like every one else.  

The lefty message may be having a hard time selling but...

That doesn't mean I got to subsidise it.

oh... rpm...for right wing stuff... I like mike medved... the commercials are too much for me to bear tho.

lazs
Title: been listening to some npr..
Post by: bj229r on July 04, 2006, 11:00:11 AM
My XM radio can record 5 hours of audio.... so 3 hours is Laura Ingraham and 2 hours is Gordon Liddy---when ya play it back...skips thru commercials like individual mp3 files--sposed to be a newer model coming out that does 50 hours