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Title: Columbine
Post by: Sandman on July 05, 2006, 01:01:39 AM
Here's an interesting read.

http://www.slate.com/id/2099203/


It seems that the "experts" have reached a diifferent conclusion...
Title: Columbine
Post by: DiabloTX on July 05, 2006, 01:20:10 AM
From the article:

"YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? People who say that wrestling is real!! . . .

"YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? People who use the same word over and over again! . . . Read a f---in book or two, increase your vo-cab-u-lary f*ck*ng idiots."

"YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? STUPID PEOPLE!!! Why must so many people be so stupid!!? . . . YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? When people mispronounce words! and they dont even know it to, like acrosT, or eXspreso, pacific (specific), or 2 pAck. learn to speak correctly you morons.

YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? STAR WARS FANS!!! GET A FaaaaaaRIGIN LIFE YOU BORING GEEEEEKS!"
[/B]

It's scary how much those thoughts mirror my own.

 


:eek:
Title: Columbine
Post by: Nash on July 05, 2006, 01:34:21 AM
Creepy article.

Two years ago I met, for what I think is the first time, a sociopath. Worked in the same place as me.

No empathy, no remorse - incapable of any feeling whatsoever.

Very charismatic though. Very charming. A robot. And stone cold dead.

This dude scared the bejesious out of me.

They're like pitbulls.

They can be very friendly. And they don't turn around and kill you on a whim. Until they do.
Title: Columbine
Post by: GtoRA2 on July 05, 2006, 01:57:30 AM
Interesting read, firmly puts the blame where it belongs.
Title: Columbine
Post by: lazs2 on July 05, 2006, 09:18:46 AM
mostly they just think they are smarter than everyone else and they feel contempt for others.... Probly liked jon stewart.    Woulda made great perpetual students.

lazs
Title: Columbine
Post by: Maverick on July 05, 2006, 12:09:21 PM
I've known for a long time that there are folks out there who are capable of most any act that can be imagined and not feel a bit of regret about it other than they could have done it better. In short these people are just what you could describe as evil, totally self centered and everything outside of themselves and their desires is expendable.

I don't believe there is a cure for it since in many cases like the article said, it is a clear calculating and voluntary choice to behave in that manner. All you can do is seperate them from the rest of society to protect society from them.
Title: Columbine
Post by: midnight Target on July 05, 2006, 12:10:09 PM
My ex-wife for example....
Title: Columbine
Post by: Holden McGroin on July 10, 2006, 04:01:04 AM
It's not just those two...

Quote
Laid-Off Zoologist Goes On Tranquilizing Rampage[/SIZE]

SAN DIEGO—Twelve San Diego Zoo visitors and two employees were brutally sedated Monday, when laid-off zoologist Dr. Brian Vermeer, 41, returned to his former place of work armed with a tranquilizer gun and began firing into a crowd. "It was kind of horrible," said Maria Christopher, 44, who witnessed the tranquilizing spree. "People were gently falling asleep over the course of 20 to 30 seconds everywhere." The spree ended when Vermeer turned his gun on himself, knocking himself out for half an hour.
onion
Title: Columbine
Post by: lazs2 on July 10, 2006, 08:28:43 AM
I wonder how much grant money those scientists got for figuring out that the guys who did the columbine killings were sociopaths?   Good thing they have the global warming cash cow to go to now.

lazs
Title: Columbine
Post by: SirLoin on July 10, 2006, 08:56:25 AM
Sounds like that Harris kids wanted to be Lex Luthor.
Title: Columbine
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 11, 2006, 04:58:52 PM
Hilarious.
Title: Columbine
Post by: EN4CER on July 11, 2006, 06:00:13 PM
Definitely a good read. I have the utmost respect for the FBI but I doubt their profiling techniques sometimes. Remember the initial profile that was disclosed regarding the Washington D.C. Sniper(s) case. White male, 25 to 35 years of age, probably involved in an extremist para-military organization, racist, military background, and the infamous white truck. They weren’t even in the same ball park with that one. John Edwards could have guessed and bs his way to a better profile on that case. Anyways, thanks for the post.
Title: Columbine
Post by: Neubob on July 11, 2006, 07:10:47 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
Creepy article.

Two years ago I met, for what I think is the first time, a sociopath. Worked in the same place as me.

No empathy, no remorse - incapable of any feeling whatsoever.

Very charismatic though. Very charming. A robot. And stone cold dead.

This dude scared the bejesious out of me.

They're like pitbulls.

They can be very friendly. And they don't turn around and kill you on a whim. Until they do.


According to a radio show I listened to during a very long drive route 81 in Virginia (heading to Blacksburg, where I spent the weekend blasting away at various inanimate targets with a brand new Mossburg 500, but that's another story), Sociopathic disorder is found in something like 3% of men. If this is true, I'd doubt this guy was the first one you've run across.

Nevertheless, I'm really curious, what sort of behavioral traits gave him away? What sort of stuff did he do, or didn't do, that lead you this conclusion? Feel free to go into depth, I'm curious as all hell about this personality disorder.
Title: Columbine
Post by: stantond on July 11, 2006, 08:51:53 PM
I blame the students parents.  If the parents had not provided them with the money to get weapons, a lack of moral and ethical standards (i.e. church, social responsibility, care for others), and the time to plan the massacre with unsupervised internet access it would not have happened.   Ah, but it's easy to blame the parents.  

I don't hold much regard for secondhand psychoanalysis of the dead.


Regards,

Malta
Title: Columbine
Post by: Sweet2th on August 25, 2007, 08:42:29 PM
This was brought to my attention today.


WARNING: This video contains disturbing footage.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFA1Fqh0MkU
Title: Columbine
Post by: Slash27 on August 25, 2007, 09:01:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sweet2th
This was brought to my attention today.


WARNING: This video contains disturbing footage.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFA1Fqh0MkU


thats not Columbine, and its ****ing stupid
Title: Columbine
Post by: Hap on August 25, 2007, 09:35:37 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
Two years ago I met, for what I think is the first time, a sociopath.


No moral compass.  The entire triumph of self-absorbtion -- the snake eating its tail --  quite evil when left alone.
Title: Columbine
Post by: DYNAMITE on August 25, 2007, 09:38:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Slash27
thats not Columbine, and its ****ing stupid


Are you sure?  It sure seems to have gone down as I remember reading about it.  

Do you know what that footage is from?
Title: Columbine
Post by: lasersailor184 on August 25, 2007, 10:10:25 PM
Key tip off that it's not real, I.E. Staged... The guns don't have any recoil to them.



Not to mention the date and time being wrong.
Title: Columbine
Post by: Slash27 on August 26, 2007, 12:30:59 AM
Quote
Originally posted by DYNAMITE
Are you sure?  It sure seems to have gone down as I remember reading about it.  

Do you know what that footage is from?



(http://www.nazi.org/community/columns/smith/column13/columbine.jpg)


This is a pic of the  murdering bastards. There is footage from the schools security cams , but that other crap was not it.
Title: Columbine
Post by: JB73 on August 26, 2007, 01:53:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by DiabloTX
From the article:

"YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? People who say that wrestling is real!! . . .

"YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? People who use the same word over and over again! . . . Read a f---in book or two, increase your vo-cab-u-lary f*ck*ng idiots."

"YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? STUPID PEOPLE!!! Why must so many people be so stupid!!? . . . YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? When people mispronounce words! and they dont even know it to, like acrosT, or eXspreso, pacific (specific), or 2 pAck. learn to speak correctly you morons.

YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE!!!? STAR WARS FANS!!! GET A FaaaaaaRIGIN LIFE YOU BORING GEEEEEKS!"


It's scary how much those thoughts mirror my own.

 


:eek: [/B]
yup. It actually resonated for me as well when it happened.

I see Nash said something about sociopaths....

I met one also, or more precisely, a type "a" personality, with the free floating hostility most prominent. there was another name for it, I forget what, but it was a spooky guy who just almost "wished" hate on others who crossed his path.

something he did just to mess with me:
at the time I was quality control for a photo company, and we had these OLD legacy terminals to run the machines. we are talking green monochrome systems, but I had the ability to look at logs, and old screen data.

he found out about this, and I caught him messing up a print series. he used an incorrect setting, and I was to blame for having the machine out of calibration. it was not. I had to print the log on an old dot-matrix printer, and cleared my own name in the incident.

the next day checking the logs, EVERY machine in the shop had a full 2 pages of series commands "F*** you Dave you will die" hidden behind a few pages of actual work functions.

I had to print them and once again prove my own innocence / safety.

he went through the trouble of doing this on over 22 terminals.


there are some seriously disturbed people in this world who confuse a somewhat rational thought, or feeling into real life actions.
:O :eek:
Title: Columbine
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on August 26, 2007, 02:20:26 AM
Not to high jack but..

"SAN DIEGO—Twelve San Diego Zoo visitors and two employees were brutally sedated Monday, when laid-off zoologist Dr. Brian Vermeer, 41, returned to his former place of work armed with a tranquilizer gun and began firing into a crowd. "

Focus on the part that says ..

"two employees were brutally sedated Monday"

Hell i pay good money for my drugs, where is this wack job when i need him?

brutally sedated :rofl
Title: Columbine
Post by: bj229r on August 26, 2007, 07:18:20 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
Creepy article.

Two years ago I met, for what I think is the first time, a sociopath. Worked in the same place as me.

No empathy, no remorse - incapable of any feeling whatsoever.

Very charismatic though. Very charming. A robot. And stone cold dead.

This dude scared the bejesious out of me.

They're like pitbulls.

They can be very friendly. And they don't turn around and kill you on a whim. Until they do.

Ahhh...sales manager
Title: Columbine
Post by: Jackal1 on August 26, 2007, 07:28:14 AM
You just got to ask yourself how hard of a diagnosis of them after  the fact was?
Also, who paid for the obvious? I think the answer to that is also obvious.
Title: Columbine
Post by: McFarland on August 26, 2007, 11:31:11 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
It's not just those two...

Quote

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Laid-Off Zoologist Goes On Tranquilizing Rampage

SAN DIEGO—Twelve San Diego Zoo visitors and two employees were brutally sedated Monday, when laid-off zoologist Dr. Brian Vermeer, 41, returned to his former place of work armed with a tranquilizer gun and began firing into a crowd. "It was kind of horrible," said Maria Christopher, 44, who witnessed the tranquilizing spree. "People were gently falling asleep over the course of 20 to 30 seconds everywhere." The spree ended when Vermeer turned his gun on himself, knocking himself out for half an hour.


onion [/B]


"People gently falling asleep"? "Brutally sedated"? These people consider this violence? Wow, you go to the dentist to pay him to do this kind of thing. In fact, this sounds like a better way than my dentist does it.... maybe I can get him a job when he gets out of jail. :rofl As for the Columbine kids, they did what they did, they died, thankfully the plan didn't go as it was meant to.
Title: Columbine
Post by: moot on August 26, 2007, 01:10:44 PM
Check 6 McFarland, Onionine saddled in.
Title: Columbine
Post by: majic on August 26, 2007, 07:18:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by moot
Check 6 McFarland, Onionine saddled in.


It's too late, he's toast.
Title: Columbine
Post by: McFarland on August 26, 2007, 08:12:16 PM
What's this about an onion? Why is that even there? Great, I have the feeling I've tripped over another one of yalls pranks......
Title: Columbine
Post by: GtoRA2 on August 27, 2007, 04:59:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by McFarland
What's this about an onion? Why is that even there? Great, I have the feeling I've tripped over another one of yalls pranks......



You have to be a troll, no one is this bad at the internet. :rofl
Title: Columbine
Post by: McFarland on August 27, 2007, 05:34:45 PM
I've only had a computer for 2 years, internet for one..... we didn't have these things when I was growing up. We also didn't have TV. I don't spend lots of time online or even on the computer, so how am I supposed to know this? It isn't a knowledge that we are born with.
Title: Columbine
Post by: lasersailor184 on August 27, 2007, 06:13:28 PM
The onion is a fake news source online.  http://www.theonion.com/content/index
Title: Columbine
Post by: JB73 on August 27, 2007, 06:41:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
The onion is a fake news source online.  http://www.theonion.com/content/index
it started as a printed paper here in Madison and Milwaukee, WI.
Title: Columbine
Post by: McFarland on August 29, 2007, 07:50:29 PM
Ah, thanks for clarifying. One more enlightened person.
Title: Columbine
Post by: JB88 on August 29, 2007, 07:59:22 PM
im not so sure that knowledge of the internets allows one to become enlightened or not...but i'm pretty sure that it can hinder it.

:D
Title: Columbine
Post by: Sikboy on August 29, 2007, 09:36:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by McFarland
I've only had a computer for 2 years, internet for one..... we didn't have these things when I was growing up. We also didn't have TV. I don't spend lots of time online or even on the computer, so how am I supposed to know this? It isn't a knowledge that we are born with.


Don't bull**** me! You're pappy had an old atari 2400 that ran on shine and could download arpanet at 9600 bps.

-Sik
Title: Columbine
Post by: Geary420 on August 30, 2007, 01:54:34 AM
Quote
Originally posted by JB73
it started as a printed paper here in Madison and Milwaukee, WI.


Werd, I can't make a trip to Madison without picking one up.  LaCrosse has its own version now "The Second Supper" which is ok, but not nearly as good as the original.
Title: Columbine
Post by: ink on August 30, 2007, 03:44:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
Creepy article.

Two years ago I met, for what I think is the first time, a sociopath. Worked in the same place as me.

No empathy, no remorse - incapable of any feeling whatsoever.

Very charismatic though. Very charming. A robot. And stone cold dead.

This dude scared the bejesious out of me.

They're like pitbulls.

They can be very friendly. And they don't turn around and kill you on a whim. Until they do.



you are so very wrong on this one my friend,
  pittbulls are one of the most loving dogs you can get.
i wont own any other breed.
   but i also raise my dogs correct.  
it just sux when i see misconceptions about the greatest dog man has ever made.  IMO
Title: Columbine
Post by: ink on August 30, 2007, 03:58:44 AM
Quote
Originally posted by EN4CER
Definitely a good read. I have the utmost respect for the FBI but I doubt their profiling techniques sometimes. Remember the initial profile that was disclosed regarding the Washington D.C. Sniper(s) case. White male, 25 to 35 years of age, probably involved in an extremist para-military organization, racist, military background, and the infamous white truck. They weren’t even in the same ball park with that one. John Edwards could have guessed and bs his way to a better profile on that case. Anyways, thanks for the post.



the utmost respect for the FBI   how can you respect this



Reno planned Waco assault with Delta Force

Aug. 28, 1999: Contrary to public statements, Attorney General Janet Reno and FBI officials planned the final deadly assault on the Branch Davidian church in Waco, Texas, with top officers of the U.S. Army's Delta Force, according to classified documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act and Special Forces sources.  

The FBI actually requested that Special Forces Delta Force operatives consult with them, be present on the scene and maintain equipment in preparation for a resolution of the 1993 51-day standoff that resulted in a fire that killed 74 civilians including many children, according to the documents and a knowledgeable military source.

The documented information WND obtained reveals not only did Reno actively seek involvement by Delta Force, but she was warned at one meeting she attended with the FBI, Delta Force Colonel William "Jerry" Boykin and Webster Hubbell that the use of CS tear gas would have a variety of effects, one of which would be "Some people would panic, Quote: "mothers may run off and leave infants
Title: Columbine
Post by: Jackal1 on August 30, 2007, 09:46:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Sikboy
Don't bull**** me! You're pappy had an old atari 2400 that ran on shine and could download arpanet at 9600 bps.

-Sik


In times of low shine capacity , it was powered by a snake treadmill connected to a flathead ford generator.
Title: Columbine
Post by: lazs2 on August 30, 2007, 02:49:35 PM
I believe his pappy was more into babbit bearing 216 chevy sixs.

lazs
Title: Columbine
Post by: Jackal1 on August 31, 2007, 08:05:42 AM
:aok