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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Bruv119 on July 08, 2006, 04:58:18 AM
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Im happy with Aces High its a great game and im addicted for good.
However, I came from a different game that had a fuller planeset.
I would like to see some planes added but most of these come from the soviet and Japanese air forces. The ones with a * would love to see 1st.
Fighters:
russian, iyshak, mig 3, lagg3 , yak 3*, hurri IIb,
japanese, J2M3*(jack) , ki84 i c* (30mm frank)
Bombers:
russian, Tu-2*, PE-8 (this is a 4 engined bomber bigger than a B17)
japanese, G4M2 * (betty),
We need a better perk bomber because bomber pilots have nothing decent to spend their perks on I think maybe the PE8 or B29 would be obvious choices.
Bruv
~S~
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There is no piont in having a B-29 if we get one of thouse no one could get up to it. I spoke to HITECH at the con and he said that having a B-29 would be pointless.
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But I see what your saying I right with ya bro:aok
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but it was a plane in WWII so why shouldn't it be there.. they have multiple versions of some plane which i think is pointless. there should be just one and then in the configuration it can be switched to the certain model you want. but if they are over powering or would cause it use easy to win if it was used just but a high ENY. even though ENY dont mean crap. it would still be available as it was during WWII
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ACtually, from what I remember HTC had said in the past the problem with the B-29 was figuring out how to do the remote-fired guns. The 29 would CERTAINLY be of use whenever CT gets to the Pacific.
In the MA, forget ENY, the 29 would need to be perked HEAVILY.
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The B-29 flew so high that most planes if not all of them could not get that high. I dont think the P-51d could get that high. I think in this forum there is only one account tould on anouther post about a F4U-1C getting that high and the guns froze up so the pilot had to use the plane to basicly beat the outher plane out of the sky. Thus almost killing him self.
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Originally posted by red26
There is no piont in having a B-29 if we get one of thouse no one could get up to it.
Properly deployed, the 29 would be very, very hard to catch, but itīs not that "no one could get up to it". P47N, Me 163, Spit XIV would come to mind. And of course the TA 152H, wich has its peak power just around the 29īs service ceiling. The problem would be more the short time before first warning and the buffs arrival in target area. On the other hand, most people are not patient enough for a 45-60 minute climb to 30k
EDIT: Just donīt misunderstand me: I do not really ask to get a B29, there are many more gaps in planeset I would like to get filled first :aok
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Well yea like I asked for a good tank buster but they wont give us one or even a german MLRS dont know the name but I know they used them. I guess CT is keeping them too busy to make new planes?
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Originally posted by red26
The B-29 flew so high that most planes if not all of them could not get that high. I dont think the P-51d could get that high. I think in this forum there is only one account tould on anouther post about a F4U-1C getting that high and the guns froze up so the pilot had to use the plane to basicly beat the outher plane out of the sky. Thus almost killing him self.
Read some history.
Yes, Ki-84s couldn't effectively combat it, but J2Ms could.
Also bombing altitudes had to be reduced to 7-8,000ft due to the jet stream over Japan. A lot of bombing took place at night, from low altitude.
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Thanks for the Info I was just tol that hardly any fighters could get that high. The guy that tould me flew F4U's in WWII I noticed when I looked up the J2M's that there was a coup;e of asian planes that could go to 38 and 39,000 ft so thanks for the info.:aok :aok
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This wasnt a b29 thread i was just making the point of bomber perk points not being used.
But i do genuinely believe the 2 countries listed especially SU early war stuff is being left out.
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IMO a late war B-29s against 262s scenario would be a kewl what-if kinda thingy
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I didnt meen to make a B-29 post out of this one. I just know that a lot of people ask for stuff that isnt the best for this forum. I asked for a German M.L.R.S. but I dont think that will make it to the hanger anytime soon. It would be a good ride to have like the PT Boat It has the rocket launchers on each side. The German MLRS has the same thing but on a tank insted of a boat. But I understand where you were going with your post and I
you for bringing it up.
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Originally posted by red26
There is no piont in having a B-29 if we get one of thouse no one could get up to it.
But in all fairness, who in the MA would actually take the time to get it up to full altitude? Most people in the MA want quick thrills; climbing to 30,000 just isn't in the plan.
Not that I'm advocating the introduction of the b-29, but I don't see it as invincible or unfair (assuming nukes out of the question).
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I was going to say something here... what was it? It's right on the tip of my tongue.... oh yeah!
Judy Judy Judy.
(http://weapons-free.masdf.com/air/japan/pic/suisei.jpg)
-Sik
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I never said that there wasnt a fighter that could get up to the level of a 29 I did in fact say that there was only few that could matter of fact there was a jap, bomber that could reach 39,000 I just dont think thaat a 29 with its alt, cap would be fair I know that most pilots wouldnt take the big bird all the way upi to its full alt, cap but some would and with the payload that the 29 had... well lets just say oh man. base gon in almost one pass.
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i dont think high attitude bombing would be something practical in game. i mean if that was the case everyone would be up at 20k bombing .. whats the highest anyones ever bombed from and been effective in game?
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See Bruv, you put B-29 any where in the fourm & everything else goes out the window.
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At least no one's showed up going on about
NOOOOOOKSSS!!!
I mean, we should be thankful for small blessings, right?
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well you would have to have a B-29 to have nukes as thats what it was carried on.
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Originally posted by red26
I never said that there wasnt a fighter that could get up to the level of a 29 I did in fact say that there was only few that could matter of fact there was a jap, bomber that could reach 39,000 I just dont think thaat a 29 with its alt, cap would be fair I know that most pilots wouldnt take the big bird all the way upi to its full alt, cap but some would and with the payload that the 29 had... well lets just say oh man. base gon in almost one pass.
Also, keep in mind it wasn't that "fighters" couldn't effectively combat the B-29, it was that "Japanese fighters" couldn't effectively combat it.
The Bf109K-4, Ta-152, P-38, P-47, P-51 and Spitfires Mk IX and Mk XIV can all fight effectively, more or less, at the B-29's altitudes.
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Anythin new at this point will be nice, our last "new" toy was the jeep. Effective in its own way but not somethin that i would have wanted before a new fighter or bomber. somethin like the betty bomber should have been in the game along time ago. He111 is another plane that comes to mind.
O jezz b29, just saying b29 is like stepin on a land mine. Yea it would be nice but adding it will hav alot of people postin about the dam atomic bomb. It shouldnt be added, yea it was used but dam, thats all anybody would want to drop, imgaine a set of 7 b29s dropin all over ur side of the map. U just cant do it. Incedairy bombs on the other hand we can use. I heard that it will kill our frame rate but htc needs to try to work it in, then when we get the sherman tank we can have the flamethrower on it, or if they add fps troops could have it.
regardless anythin i just want to see somethin new soon, a NEW MAP would really hit the spot about now.
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Even the F4U's wepons would freez up at the 29's alt, there is a report somewere on the forum about it not shure were and the jap bomber that the F4U's were chasing his gunner's wepon was froze up. One of the F4U's
had to ram the jap bomber and then crash land after because his prop was all beat to hecl.:aok
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Posting about the B-29 is the equivalent of Godwin'ing the thread. :noid :cry :noid :cry
Now that it is out of the way. My Wish list that I would like to see.
Russian: I-16, Mig-3*, PE-2
Italian: C-200, SM-79*, G-55
German: He-111*,Ju-87G
American: TBD(Devastator)*, B-25D, PBY(landing, and taking off from water would be nice)
Japan: G4M2*, Judy, George
British/Commonwealth: Boomerang, Swordfish*, Gladiator
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g4m and he111 are a must, hands done they need to get in the game. pby wat was that used for, isnt that the catalina???? Some more italian planes would be nice aswell, by the why r plane set looks u wouldnt noe they were in the war.
SOme more gvs would be cool, the sherman(flamethrower variant included) would be nice as well as the jap tanks. I seen the sherman makin amphibous landing and that would be greatwhen capin from a cv.
I doubt that anybody will take a b29 up into orbit, nobody has the patience. But if it came to the game the perk cost would be just as high as the 262 so maybe they would, BUT if we had wind in the game a single b29 at 35k wouldnt be able to knock out 5 bases. Wit out wind its like those bombers got laser designaters or somethin.
If i missed seplled anythin im sorry its 2am:lol
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The Soviet Union went to war 6 months before the US, pit against almost the full might of the German military machine at its prime. The VVS were in a constant struggle against the Luftwaffe and the evolutionary cycle of their aircraft were tight into deadlock against the best the LW had to offer. Just as the RAF and their Spitfires matched the 109s toe-to-toe, the Yaks and Lavochkas and various many aircraft of the VVS also evolved in the face of the 109s and 190s through the course of four years of deadly combat...
... and we have four bloody VVS fighters in the game.
Yak-9T (1943)
Yak-9U (1944)
La-5FN (1943)
La-7 (1944)
Count them, four.
We've got seven individual Spitfires, six individual 109s, four P-47s, three P-38s, and four Corsairs and etc.. and then we have just four planes representing the entire VVS set from 1941 to 1945. Two Yaks, two Las, and the entire planeset from 1941 to mid 1943 is missing.
If I get to see another US or RAF or German plane before any VVS or Japanese planes, I'd be seriously upset.
ps) The latest 'ride' we get turns out to be an army Jeep. Lovely weather, eh?
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Originally posted by Kweassa
If I get to see another US or RAF or German plane before any VVS or Japanese planes, I'd be seriously upset.
I'll second that.
Except a B29 of course. (hehehe - only joking)
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Agreed, Soviet, Japanese, Italian, and German need a little more in their plane set. I guess to the winner do go the spoils....
Yak 3 Yak 3 Yak 3.... would be a fantastically fun little scrapper. Smaller than the Yaks we have now, build later than Yak 7 and 9.
Ki-100 (Ki-61 with powerful radial engine) over 280 produced.
Mitsubishi J2M "Raiden" (Thunderbolt") nicknamed "jack"
He-177 Greif (Griffin) bomber
Petlyakov Pe-8, also known as TB-7, 4-engine bomber. 8,800 lbs of bombs.... dorsal and tail turrents were 20mm.... but only 93 produced.
Possible Solution to B-29. Do Not make avaialble on all maps..... the *very* few MA and SE maps that it IS available on, institute the "jet stream" altitude limit. All maps don't all have to be wide open. Be nice to have for senerio maps, and something to spend buff perkies on.
There...you get B29, and can still hit it.
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He 177 would be cool, just met an ex he177 pilot a few days ago and he said he loved to fly that plane.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
...Petlyakov Pe-8, also known as TB-7, 4-engine bomber. 8,800 lbs of bombs.... dorsal and tail turrents were 20mm.... but only 93 produced....
there was more B-32s made than that....[SIZE=8]B-32!!!11[/SIZE]
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Some better replies at toward the end of the thread.
My point was to fill SU and JP planesets
The G4M2, jack, ki100 tony,
the soviet yak 3, tu-2 (soviet bomber)
Get these planes in and not only will it add some more variety but also be good for special events.........
Bruv
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He-111
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Originally posted by Bruv119
Some better replies at toward the end of the thread.
The G4M2, jack, ki100 tony,
damnit!
Judy Judy Judy.
-Sik
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Well bkbandit The PBY can carry 4000Lbs of bombs or 2 torpedoes. If HITECH codes water landing, and takeoff, from a fleet then we have something. Also if we can take a formation, then no fleet is safe from the Cat.
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PBYs should not be available at fleets. Airfields and ports (as the Cat CAN land on a runway).
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Originally posted by Karnak
Read some history.
Yes, Ki-84s couldn't effectively combat it, but J2Ms could.
Also bombing altitudes had to be reduced to 7-8,000ft due to the jet stream over Japan. A lot of bombing took place at night, from low altitude.
Actually they dropped the altitude so they could increase the density of incendary coverage. previous high altitude attempts to bomb Tokyo resulted in less than 16% damage, but one night over Tokyo at 7,000 feet and 60% of the city was destroyed....*in one night* (along with about 150K people) and it only cost the US 1 B-29 that was shot down that night.
In case anyone was wondering, the losses of B-29's in the pacific during WWII were as follows:
74 lost to fighters
54 lost to AAA
19 lost from AAA/Fighter combination
267 lost from "other" (I don't know what other is, but probably if they didn't know what happened to Joe and the rest of the boys......"one minute he was on my right wing, the next moment he was gone" )
personally, the B29 would be perfect in AH if they were perked about the same as the Arado. for the first few weeks there would be an orgy of B29 in the sky and falling out of the air...eventually you would see them about as often as you see arados. And WOW the TA152 would suddenly become a force to reckon with!
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i would say the others where from out of gas .. engine failures .. etc.. thats why iwo jima was important so it could be used to land crippled 29's from raids on japan