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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Stringer on July 09, 2006, 11:23:22 AM
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Just saw on ESPN that Montoya will be joining the Nextel Cup Circuit next year.
He'll run some Busch Series races after the F1 season concludes this year.
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Heh, he'll get slaughtered.:cool:
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Just saw it on the news.
Hope he fares better in that lesser sport :D
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he will have to learn that trick where you bump the car in front of you and put him into the wall.
also the "debris on track" yellow flags to bunch up the field when they get too spread out.
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lol john.. he knows :D
although usually he is the one getting bumped out
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Cool. I may actually watch a NASCAR race.
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I don't care who joins up...I'm quitting watching it after they let the "Toyotas" in.
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Originally posted by ASTAC
I don't care who joins up...I'm quitting watching it after they let the "Toyotas" in.
Will you stop watching NASCAR because they let a new brand in? :confused:
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Will you stop watching NASCAR because they let a new brand in? :confused:
Because NASCAR has always been US brand names..they continue to make changes the fans don't like.
Big ones have been the generic cars that since the early 90's have been less and less like the cars theyare supposed to represent(and will be worse when they come out with the standard NASCAR then there will be no differences), and this stupid last 10 race shootout for the championship. I mean a guy can be consistanly good all year, then screw up one race in the last 10 and end up coming in 5th or 6th..what kinda crap is that? Not to mention that they are getting to anal about the "rubbing" that goes on, or fining guys points/money for accidently using a profane word on TV. And lastly, instead of repairing old tracks that have been part of the sport since the begining (like Rockinham, Darlington will be next) they are replacing them with non interesting generic tracks..even the classic race names are gone and sold out to sponsors (The Classic Firecracker 400 at daytona is the "Pepsi 400" now)
It's just going downhill, and I think putting a damn Jap name in the mix will not sit well with a core fanbase that notoriuosly does not like cars from any country but the USA.
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Now...didn't they already try this with tom cruise, cary elwes and michael rooker in a menage a trois of racing drama?
As I recall they used lots of tires.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Hope he fares better in that lesser sport :D
LOL :rofl
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Just saw it on the news.
Hope he fares better in that lesser sport :D
Lesser sport? I will defend the fact that NASCAR has one of the most demanding schedules out there. Plus there are always about twice as many cars starting the race than there are in F1 or indy..Only 5 days between tracks that require much different setups and driving styles..not to mention as they said in "Days of Thunder" NASCARs are twice as heavy, with tires half as wide as Indy and F1.
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Originally posted by Stringer
Just saw on ESPN that Montoya will be joining the Nextel Cup Circuit next year.
He'll run some Busch Series races after the F1 season concludes this year.
They're gonna try to get him in the Cup for a race or few too. He's gotta qualify to run the Daytona 500 next year.
They had a clip of an interview with him during the race at Chicagoland today, and he expects to get stomped on for the first season.
On the Toyotas coming to NASCAR..... not sure what I think. Might be interesting.... I know one of the Toyotas will be 00 and belong to Micheal Waltrip Racing, primary sponsers are Dominos and Burger King (we got a flyer at the store about it).
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I guess if General Motors gets bought out by the Nissan-Renault partnership, all the Monte Carlos will have to drop out because they are not "American" enough. Maybe Dodge should drop out because they are really owned by Germans.
Who would want a Toyota built in Ohio, when you could drive a Monte Carlo built in Mexico?
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it will be a "toyota" in name only just like the "fords" "chevys" "pontiacs" etc are just purpose built race cars that look a little like the cars you see on the street. NASCAR lost me when they stopped racing REAL cars and went to fake "stock cars".
how many fords, chevys etc use carburetors today?
5 bolt wheels,hand pumped jacks, tires that only last 20 laps, smaller gas tanks to force more pit stops, 3 lap yellow flags for no reason except to keep the field bunched up so after 500 miles of "racing" the fans can have a "close finish".
there is big money here, it's called SHOW BUSINESS.
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Lesser sport? I will defend the fact that NASCAR has one of the most demanding schedules out there. Plus there are always about twice as many cars starting the race than there are in F1 or indy..Only 5 days between tracks that require much different setups and driving styles..not to mention as they said in "Days of Thunder" NASCARs are twice as heavy, with tires half as wide as Indy and F1.
.............and turn Left.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Will you stop watching NASCAR because they let a new brand in? :confused:
I think its time for NASCAR to evolve a little,to use a steering wheel and actually take right turns would be a start.
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Originally posted by ASTAC
they said in "Days of Thunder" NASCARs are twice as heavy, with tires half as wide as Indy and F1.
NASCAR 3000 pounds, F1 only 500 pounds(they'd make it lighter,but rulles...)
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Lesser sport? I will defend the fact that NASCAR has one of the most demanding schedules out there. Plus there are always about twice as many cars starting the race than there are in F1 or indy..Only 5 days between tracks that require much different setups and driving styles..not to mention as they said in "Days of Thunder" NASCARs are twice as heavy, with tires half as wide as Indy and F1.
Did you fail to see that big grin?
I was joking/poking ;)
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Originally posted by KgB
I think its time for NASCAR to evolve a little,to use a steering wheel and actually take right turns would be a start.
They turn both ways at infineon..(sears point) been racing there for nearly 20 years, and before that at the old Riverside road course in So Cal.
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some other Nascar related news...
NASCAR/Make-A-Wish Partnership Allows Kids To Achieve Dreams Mere Moments Before Death
DAYTONA BEACH, FL June 29, 2006 —NASCAR has announced that their new partnership with the Make-A-Wish Foundation will allow young, terminally ill stock-car-racing fans to spend their last moments on Earth living out their fantasies of driving like Tony Stewart, Jimmie Johnson, and especially all-time favorite Dale Earnhardt. "We wanted to give kids with life-threatening medical conditions the chance to get into a 750-horsepower Nextel Cup car and experience what life is like on the ragged edge—and beyond," NASCAR public-relations associate Todd Linden said while helping a 13-year-old leukemia patient into a specially outfitted Monte Carlo with loose steering, a bad front-end push, and four weak tires. "We believe they deserve a chance to know what driving a race car is like before they die… even immediately before." Replacement cars for the program are paid for by the estate of the late Dale Earnhardt, whose relatives say would have loved to treat kids to the experience.
| Onion Sports
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
some other Nascar related news...
| Onion Sports
Yeah..you can tell by the language of the story
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Har har... I smell fear.
The Toyota comment reminds of some Kiwi friends of mine who joined an on-line NASCAR racing game. The Americans wouldn't race them because it was an 'American' game.
They finally agreed to a team race, and sure enough, the Kiwis whipped their butts and were banned from the server after that.
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Originally posted by Rolex
Har har... I smell fear.
The Toyota comment reminds of some Kiwi friends of mine who joined an on-line NASCAR racing game. The Americans wouldn't race them because it was an 'American' game.
They finally agreed to a team race, and sure enough, the Kiwis whipped their butts and were banned from the server after that.
Exactly, TRD (Toyota Racing Development) will show Ford, GM and Dodge how it's done.
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TRD has thrown over a billion at F1 and has nothing to show for it. I wouldn't be so cocky if I were them. Kinda like Montoya - if you can't hack with the big boys, go play in the kiddy pool.
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I cant seem to find the list, but some of you may.
In F1 its not the team with the most funding that wins. Renault is behind Ferrari, Toyota and McLarren yet they are the best. I suspect that BMW also hs a bigger budget. Not sure about Honda, but they stink. The Redbull teams have suprised me by doing as well as they are.
Maybe Toyota should stick with building the best and most reliable trucks and offroad cars out there and stay away from high-end motorsports.
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"Maybe Toyota should stick with building the best and most reliable trucks and offroad cars out there and stay away from high-end motorsports."
I hate to burst your bubble, but motorsports is a marketing channel, not a sport. Only the people who pay money to watch it think it is a sport. To everyone else (TV, car manufacturers, aftermarket manufacturers, tire companies, oil companies, T-shirt vendors, soft drink makers, sponsors, drivers, advertisers, newspapers, magazines, websites, etc. ) it is a business built upon people thinking it is a sport. ;)
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yup.. that goes for evertying (except the sports i like) ;)
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
TRD has thrown over a billion at F1 and has nothing to show for it. I wouldn't be so cocky if I were them. Kinda like Montoya - if you can't hack with the big boys, go play in the kiddy pool.
They have good engines. Kinda like when McLaren had Honda engines until 93. Honda had the best engines. Ford is out of racing engine design since they sold Cosworth. Now it is contracted out by Roush here in Livonia, Michigan.
My TRD statement holds true because they have done more engine design for racing than the "Big 3".
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While I am a NASCAR fan, it has steadily started to go downhill.
It all started when they introduced the restrictor plate and has gown down from there.
Stuff like add on bubble backs to GM's so they can compete to different spoiler heights for each make. It's all a sad deal.
Someone show me the street car version with fenders that wide.
The NASCAR rules need an enema IMHO.
Sheesh at least make the teams use a rear wheel drive model.
OK rant off.
As far as Toyota getting into it.. It might get the other manufactures off their rear ends and do something.
But what I think will actually happen is the "Big 3" will tag team nascar with whine and restrictions will hurt Toyota.
Bronk