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Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2001, 08:26:00 AM
..indirectly, but none the less:

U.S. concerned about corrupt military officials in Russia (http://www.unitedstates.com/news/farticle/623135?20011029223847)
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Eagler on October 30, 2001, 09:27:00 AM
yep, as strapped for cash and corrupt as Russia is, it's just a matter of time...
 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,37605,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,37605,00.html)

I can see the first one going off in Rome, the center of Christianity - as this is quickly becoming a war of religions - they slaughtered how many Catholics at mass just a few days ago??, though no one will say as much. Rome would be easier to smuggle one in. Then in following confusion, they hit DC, taking out our gov leaders...

then the toejam hits the fan..
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Boroda on October 30, 2001, 10:07:00 AM
Ooooh.

"Spetznatz". Another spelling of a mysterious and fearfull Soviet superhuman units.

Can someone tell that illiterate journalists that "SpetsNaz" means "Special purpose". (Специальное назначение, Spetsial'noye naznacheniye), and such almost every military command has such units. Like "special purpose" untis of pipeline or railroad forces, plainly - repairment crews, or "special purpose" communication units - translators from rare languages.

As for "suitcase bombs" and general Lebed - believe me, it's a roadkill. Lebed used that "threat" simply to attract attention at the end of his political career.

Can you imagine the security measures at the nuclear weapons storage facilities? I can't imagine how anyone can even think about stealing a warhead.

I really enjoy the Western view on Russia. Looks like that journalists still believe that all Russians wear fur-hats, drink vodka instead of water, adress each other as "comrade" (just watch "Enemy at the gates") all the time and every male has a long beard. Russian nuclear weapons are all painted khaki and have red stars on every side. The usual way to fix them must be a crawbar and a sledgehammer.

[ 10-31-2001: Message edited by: Boroda ]
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: funkedup on October 30, 2001, 10:15:00 AM
ROFL Boroda  :D
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2001, 10:21:00 AM
I doubt we'll see Boroda on this BBS once one of those is used.  :D  Too much crow for his ego to digest.
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: SOB on October 30, 2001, 10:52:00 AM
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Originally posted by Boroda:
(just watch "Enemy at the gates")

So all Russians speak with an English accent???   :D


SOB
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Eagler on October 30, 2001, 10:59:00 AM
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Originally posted by Boroda:

As for "suitcase bombs" and general Lebed - believe me, it's a roadkill. Lebed used that "threat" simply to attract attention at the end of his political career..

Now I'm am worried. Seems what Boroda thinks over there is real IS really roadkill. Goes to figure what he/they think is "a roadkill", is really real....  :)
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Boroda on October 30, 2001, 11:09:00 AM
I doubt there will be anything like Internet in case something like that will be used.

Any nuclear attack will result in an immediate retalliation on whoever will be the first in line to be blamed.

Any massive launch by US or Russia will result in a same launch from another party.

Rip, you have to understand that Russians are not "bearded barbarians". We had one of the best education ratios in the whole world, we still have great scientific and cultural resourses, and we are people not much different from you, Americans.

Nuclear security is still on the highest possible level, with all cross-checks, control etc. There are still some parts of the armed forces 100% reliable, nuclear weapons storage one of them. You simply can't imagine what will happen if one of the warheads will "disappear".
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2001, 11:26:00 AM
I understand that Borodo, and I also understand that someone in need of money to feed ones family to do anything to get that money.
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Hangtime on October 30, 2001, 12:18:00 PM
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There are still some parts of the armed forces 100% reliable..  

Ahhh.. glad to hear that at least SOME parts of the Russin Military are STILL reliable.

*sheesh*

Glad to hear I can't buy an armed and fueled SU-27 for 5k anymore. Whats the price up to now?? $7,500.00 ??

You roooooski barbarians been hangin with Genghis (who sold out to the russian mafia) too long. Guilt by assosciation.

All the prophets agree, your weapons in towelhead hands will be the end of civilization. Yer gonna be the death of all us free-thinking tree-huggin pasty skinned replublicrats. The end is near..

...woe is me; woe is me.

*YAWN* We now return you to your regularly scheduled rumor monging.
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2001, 12:21:00 PM
LOL hang! (BOOM! scare ya?)
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Duckwing6 on October 30, 2001, 12:26:00 PM
geee there must be something special about the way you are raised over there that so many of you are so paranoid....

gee i live a lot closer and i'm not scared.
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: -lynx- on October 30, 2001, 12:49:00 PM
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Now I'm am worried. Seems what Boroda thinks over there is real IS really roadkill. Goes to figure what he/they think is "a roadkill", is really real....

 
I guess Eagler that Boroda's English is still better than your Russian. He's got one up on you... ;)
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Ripsnort on October 30, 2001, 12:51:00 PM
Duck, and your not America, or American. Haven't seen any big building drop in Germany lately.
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Wilfrid on October 30, 2001, 12:59:00 PM
Nor has he Rip - he's from Austria! Sez so right there! :P
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Eagler on October 30, 2001, 01:05:00 PM
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Originally posted by -lynx-:
I guess Eagler that Boroda's English is still better than your Russian. He's got one up on you...  ;)

yes, you are quite right there old chap. A year of Fench while living in Tynemouth in the 7th grade & two years of German in High School here in the states and I can hardly speak of word of either. English is hard enough for me  :)
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Boroda on October 30, 2001, 01:17:00 PM
You roooooski barbarians been hangin with Genghis (who sold out to the russian mafia) too long. Guilt by assosciation.

Can anyone explain me what did he mean? Who are "Genghis"? Maybe he meant "gremlins"?

Funny to hear things about lack of order in Russian army from a representative of a nation that regulary "looses" H-bombs from their aircrafts.

All the prophets agree, your weapons in towelhead hands will be the end of civilization. Yer gonna be the death of all us free-thinking tree-huggin pasty skinned replublicrats. The end is near..

Please, I don't understand modern American slang. You mean that Mohammed said that we will give our weapons wrapped in towels to someone at the end of civilisation? Or did you mean Nostradamus? The next sentence is even more puzzling: who is going to be a death to whom? "Yer" is an old Cyrrilic letter, "hard sign", no sound - used only to show that consonant is proounced in a "hard" way. I bet it simply can't do any harm to anyone who knows Russian phonetics. Why does a pale/swollen skinned man hug a tree? Maybe something about an environment and ecology? Is he expressing his freedom of thought by embracing a plant? "Replublicrat" must be a neologism of mixed Greek-Latin origin, meaning something like person engaged in republican lubricant power? Or maybe "repetitive lubricants", something that relates with sexual activities? Hmmm... Maybe that's why he embraces the tree?... Can anyone explain?
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Hangtime on October 30, 2001, 01:23:00 PM
hehehheeee... HAHAHHAHHA... . BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH!!

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Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: sshh on October 30, 2001, 02:15:00 PM
Hangtime

Somebody used yer ex-USSR weapons price list as a BBQ napkin or wrapped some fish in it. Last time I checked it was one flight (with FREE landing) quoted for about 5000.

Boroda

Towelhead is easy - someone who wears towel around his head. In this context not a woman probably. "Genghis" is something I have no idea of.

А вообще я думаю он издевается.
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Hangtime on October 30, 2001, 03:25:00 PM
Well; hell, comrade... are you 'sshh' from sunnyvale, or 'boroda' from moscow?

....and how do you spell potato?

...who won the world series?

...who's really running the Khanate?

Oh... btw... this one I'll give you:

 
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"Replublicrat" must be a neologism of mixed Greek-Latin origin, meaning something like person engaged in republican lubricant power? Or maybe "repetitive lubricants", something that relates with sexual activities?  

Best descriptive I've seen yet.

Hehehhehheee
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Thrawn on October 30, 2001, 03:49:00 PM
nm

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Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: sshh on October 30, 2001, 07:19:00 PM
Thank you for great explanation, smart Hangtime  :)
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Pongo on October 31, 2001, 12:56:00 AM
Ooooh.
"Spetznatz". Another spelling of a mysterious and fearfull Soviet superhuman units.


lol
you mean another fearfull spelling of a mysterious and superhuman soviet unit.

Good reply Baroda
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Duckwing6 on October 31, 2001, 02:35:00 AM
that's right rip .. might wana get a geographics check eh ?

it's the one without kangaroos btw..

as for America and the Americans i thought you got your "New WAR" already .. so now lash out on anyone whou could "still technically maybe probably be a threat" eh ?

sheess
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: LtHans on October 31, 2001, 04:13:00 AM
I've been reading this message board ever since September 11.  I have no idea how this started, but why the hell is everyone here bound and determined to jump all over Boroda?  I've read many of these threads and he has not said anything that makes me want to treat him this way.  Yes, he is defending Russia, but why shouldn't he?  He is Russian.  I would too if I were Russian.

 
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Glad to hear I can't buy an armed and fueled SU-27 for 5k anymore.

Yeah, so?  You can buy an F-16 straight from Lockheed (minus weapons and any other classified stuff).  Its just a plane, though a tad expensive.  Two people in the world have bought T-38 Talon trainers.  I know, there was one at my company getting painted.

Why the hell is everyone at each others throats?  To quote a famous fighter pilot jargon, WTF....over?

Boroda, you do not speak perfect English.  That much I understand.  Ok.  "Towelhead" = Muslim.  Their turbans, or whatever the name is for their head gear.  Its not meant to be polite.  It is the same as calling a black man a "cupcake".  Your likely going to have to flee for you life if you do say that to somebody directly.

 
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as for America and the Americans i thought you got your "New WAR" already .. so now lash out on anyone whou could "still technically maybe probably be a threat" eh ?

I won't.  As for the "New War".....I will gladly give it to somebody else if they want it, because I sure as hell don't want it at all.  Not one diddlying bit.  We ARE getting paranoid.  Anthrax in the mail, planes crashing into our buildings, another alert today about a threat, but no information on what or where it will come from.  How the diddly are we supposed to do anthing about that?  Who the hell can prepare for.....well, whatever your imagination can dream up.  I've thought of all the worst things that I could do to the country if I were a terrorist, and the list is pretty damn big.

Hans.
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: leonid on October 31, 2001, 04:42:00 AM
I really enjoy the Western view on Russia. Looks like that journalists still believe that all Russians wear fur-hats, drink vodka instead of water, adress each other as "comrade" (just watch "Enemy at the gates") all the time and every male has a long beard. Russian nuclear weapons are all painted khaki and have red stars on every side. The usual way to fix them must be a crawbar and a sledgehammer.

Oh, god, Boroda, that was choice.  Really had me laughing  :D
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: sling322 on October 31, 2001, 06:04:00 AM
Wow Duck...you're from Austria....well then.  G'day mate!!!   ;)
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: -ammo- on October 31, 2001, 06:49:00 AM
The russians and their neighbor states still have resources that make them a potential threat to the USA and <insert USA ally>. I assure you that the DOD and the intel community within the USA still believe and understand this.  The Russians still have a powerful nuclear navy as well.
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Boroda on October 31, 2001, 12:04:00 PM
Hehe  :) I was kidding, sorry  :)

"Genghis" must be Ghengis-Khan, Chingiz-Khan (Чингиз-Хан ;), but I really didn't understand what Hangtime tried to say. What did he sell to Russian mafia? Was there already Russian mafia in XIII century? Who's guilt by what assosiation? How could Russians hang with Chingiz-Khan when he never was in Russia, only sent his warlord Subudai-Bagatur in 1226, and then his son Batiy invaded Russia in 1237 after Chingiz was dead? The whole history of a Mongol "invasion" is very interesting. I tried to find any source about it, and I simply love Mongols and their philosophy of life, that deserves to be called "prehistoric existancialism".

LtHans, I am not surprised by the reaction on my posts, I provoke such reaction deliberatly  :) It's very funny to provoke people like Eagler or Hangtime, they are simply great! Other people, like Toad, usually answer with tons of usefull and interesting information, definetly worth it.

Now about paranoia: we had all kinds of this in Russia after 1999 Chechen bombings. The problem is that it ended too soon. Now there is again no problem to set up bombs. Paranoia burned out really quickly.

Ammo, let's change sides, and it will sound like "Americans and their neighbor states still have resources that make them a potential threat to the Russia and <insert Russia's ally>. And they have proved this many times in the last 10 years. How about such a view?
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: Ripsnort on November 07, 2001, 08:10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Duckwing6:
geee there must be something special about the way you are raised over there that so many of you are so paranoid....

gee i live a lot closer and i'm not scared.

Well, if you saw the news last night, I guess paranoia is prevelent right up to the white house, as Bush addressed the leaders of 59 nations in the very-potential scenario of terrorists using nuclear weapons.  :D
Title: Russia is still technically a threat
Post by: -ammo- on November 07, 2001, 04:43:00 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda:


Ammo, let's change sides, and it will sound like "Americans and their neighbor states still have resources that make them a potential threat to the Russia and <insert Russia's ally>. And they have proved this many times in the last 10 years. How about such a view?


Very true, I do not expect the Russians to behave any different. I guess we should just trust one another, heh? LOL. Some things will never change. There are nice things that are being done right now from the Russians to us, and we do the same in kind. But diplomacy and real trust are far between.

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