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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: BlauK on July 11, 2006, 05:54:42 AM
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(http://koti.welho.com/skukkone/kuvia/duxford/iwm_focke.jpg)
I just wonder if it is intentional or simply some mess-up in restoration?
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I guess it would make sense if the MGs were removed in order to reduce the drag form the gunports.
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AFAIK many Fw's, especially "sturmbock" and jabo versions had their cowl guns removed to save weight. It makes sense to cover the muzzle holes.
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1. What does AFAIK mean?
2. That thing looks like its "nose" is blistering! Like it way badly sunburned!
3. I think it was intentional, since he might not even fly it, and if he doesnt fly, hes DEFINATELY not going to need those guns... but you never know! WWI is fought with bolt action guns. WWII with machine guns. WWIII with nukes, WWIV with sticks and stones, maybe a few Focke Wolffs, and Messeschmitts?
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Originally posted by Reynolds
1. What does AFAIK mean?
2. That thing looks like its "nose" is blistering! Like it way badly sunburned!
3. I think it was intentional, since he might not even fly it, and if he doesnt fly, hes DEFINATELY not going to need those guns... but you never know! WWI is fought with bolt action guns. WWII with machine guns. WWIII with nukes, WWIV with sticks and stones, maybe a few Focke Wolffs, and Messeschmitts?
what the hell are you talking about? LOL :lol
1. as far as i know.
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to be honest i thought the same thing when i saw that plane up close. it is an original 190A-8 on display at the Imperial War Museum in London.
I also thought they had streamlined the gun ports because they didnt used the peashooters on that aircraft.
http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/1997/07/stuff_eng_detail_fw190a.htm
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3. I think it was intentional, since he might not even fly it, and if he doesnt fly, hes DEFINATELY not going to need those guns... but you never know! WWI is fought with bolt action guns. WWII with machine guns. WWIII with nukes, WWIV with sticks and stones, maybe a few Focke Wolffs, and Messeschmitts?
WW1 planes had machine guns for the vast majority of the war.
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Originally posted by Reynolds
3. WWI is fought with bolt action guns.
You may want to RE-read whatever books on WWI.
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I think the answer has something to do with the intended role for that particular 190
Fw 190A-8/R6 733682 IV./KG200 IWM, London.
This aircraft was the top component in a Mistel S-3B (Ju 88H-1)
edited to add an image of a Mistel. Note, no wings guns on that 190 either.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/861_1152734393_mistel.jpg)
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The presented aircraft, however, demonstrates what could be call more-or-less "pure" fighter configuration.
from the lind Furball put up
I don't believe them. I think what Guppy said is far more feasable, but where did you look up the tail number Guppy? I'm not really questioning you conclusion so much as wanting the resource for myself. It's obviously not a 'pure' fighter config if there's no guns at all.
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Originally posted by 68Hawk
from the lind Furball put up
I don't believe them. I think what Guppy said is far more feasable, but where did you look up the tail number Guppy? I'm not really questioning you conclusion so much as wanting the resource for myself. It's obviously not a 'pure' fighter config if there's no guns at all.
Here ya go. A good resource on surviving Axis aircraft.
http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/
The IWM bird is among the FW190 listings and this guy knows his stuff.
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What the... is it a recon 190 that piggy-backed on a ju-88 to get give it a much longer range?
Wierd.
:confused:
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Originally posted by Stang
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What the... is it a recon 190 that piggy-backed on a ju-88 to get give it a much longer range?
Wierd.
:confused:
Lower aircraft filled with explosives. 190 gets it to target and lets it go and flies back home.
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The stupid thing is that normal mistels were supposed to be able to defend themselves. This one wouldn't be able to!
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
You may want to RE-read whatever books on WWI.
What i meant was, most infantry were using bolt-action rifles as opposed to assault rifles, submachine guns and so on. It was bot action and MGs. And that wasnt the point of it anyway
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Originally posted by Stang
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What the... is it a recon 190 that piggy-backed on a ju-88 to get give it a much longer range?
Wierd.
:confused:
Mistel, as stated above. Ju88 had a the nose filled with explosives. The idea was that the Ju88 would be released and then glide to whatever target it was ment for.
The targets it was ment for was mostly Russian powerplants.
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Originally posted by Reynolds
What i meant was, most infantry were using bolt-action rifles as opposed to assault rifles, submachine guns and so on. It was bot action and MGs. And that wasnt the point of it anyway
the point was that his high school social studies teacher told him that WW4 would be fought with sticks and stones.
liberal teachers are poisoning the minds of our young.
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Well actually Einstein said WW4 would be fought with sticks and stones. The teachers just can come up with anything own :)
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good link guppy, Thanks!
John, what does liberalism have to do with predictions of nuclear holocaust?
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Well actually Einstein said WW4 would be fought with sticks and stones. The teachers just can come up with anything own :)
THATS where i got it from. I dont listen to my teachers anyway. The point was simply that jokingly, we might nuke ourselves back 60 or so years. Its more joking than serious. So lets calm down and not get political. Politicians make me sick.
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Rgr Reynolds, politics suck.
As far as Einstein goes I think he was pretty much spot on, the only question is when...
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Well actually Einstein said WW4 would be fought with sticks and stones. The teachers just can come up with anything own :)
someones been playing ww2ol.
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*warning* the following comments are very political and highly offensive, as well as a combination of personal experience, teaching, observations, and talking out of my arse. If you are easily offended, please ignore the following comments.
Originally posted by Wilbus
Rgr Reynolds, politics suck.
As far as Einstein goes I think he was pretty much spot on, the only question is when...
Um, the next time a Bush is elected into office?
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Thanks for all the answers concerning the Focke :)
One always learns something new.
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Originally posted by SunKing
someones been playing ww2ol.
Nope, nope and no.
I haven't. However, knowing a few general quotes comes with education. Not with video games.
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Um, the next time a Bush is elected into office? [/B]
Couldn't agree more.
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Ops, sorry bout the hijack.
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First I thought it's probably 190G, although the missing MGs were not faired over that way, but the missing 151/20s definitely make it a Mistel plane.
"someones been playing ww2ol."
Or someone hasn't played WW2OL? What does Einsteins comment has to do with WW2OL? :rolleyes:
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"What does Einsteins comment has to do with WW2OL?"
Ah, now I noticed it. Sry... :)
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