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Title: NWA Airbus/DC9 collision...
Post by: Golfer on July 11, 2006, 11:25:52 AM
Ouch!  Read about it a while back in a Columbus paper because of the folks from Columbus on board the airplane.  Much more violent than I'd expect.  That'll ring your bell :O

http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944
Title: NWA Airbus/DC9 collision...
Post by: mora on July 11, 2006, 11:29:45 AM
Clearly the Airbus computers got crazy!
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Post by: Gunslinger on July 11, 2006, 11:52:32 AM
Holey CRAP!
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Post by: straffo on July 11, 2006, 12:22:24 PM
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Originally posted by mora
Clearly the Airbus computers got crazy!


it's obvious from the vdo : the Airbus tail gated  the poor DC9
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Post by: Furball on July 11, 2006, 12:34:59 PM
this quite clearly demonstrates that the A380 is a waste of time and is going to fail.
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Post by: Mickey1992 on July 11, 2006, 12:46:04 PM
I thought the blonde was cute.  I give it 8 stars. :aok
Title: NWA Airbus/DC9 collision...
Post by: Stringer on July 11, 2006, 12:52:50 PM
I see the DC9 has a new Airbus braking system.
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Post by: Wolfala on July 11, 2006, 01:22:10 PM
Mmm...how far ahead did they fail? Do the reversers operate on the same system? Or just not enough time?
Title: NWA Airbus/DC9 collision...
Post by: Golfer on July 11, 2006, 01:27:11 PM
Only total hydraulic failure I've witnessed was a Lear 35.  Emergency gear extension, no flaps and using the drag chute on landing with no TRs.

I'd prefer the theory that the bus captain was sleeping with the wife of the diesel captain and he rammed one home.:huh
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 11, 2006, 07:23:10 PM
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Originally posted by Stringer
I see the DC9 has a new Airbus braking system.
:rofl :rofl  So would that be outsourcing? I bet Hangtime is livid! ;)
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Post by: Flit on July 11, 2006, 08:33:46 PM
Wow, a bunch of real lucky people on those two planes
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Post by: detch01 on July 11, 2006, 09:43:29 PM
Eeeek! ActiveX site.  No thanks.
Title: NWA Airbus/DC9 collision...
Post by: BGBMAW on July 11, 2006, 11:55:52 PM
so..what was the verdict?


Total HYdra failure?
Title: NWA Airbus/DC9 collision...
Post by: Golfer on July 12, 2006, 12:14:08 AM
NTSB Identification: CHI05MA111A
Scheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carrier operation of Northwest Airlines Inc.
Accident occurred Tuesday, May 10, 2005 in Minneapolis, MN
Aircraft: McDonnell Douglas DC-9-51, registration: N763NC
Injuries: 1 Serious, 3 Minor, 138 Uninjured.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On May 10, 2005, at 1930 central daylight time, a McDonnell Douglas DC-9-51, N763NC, collided with an Airbus A-319-114, N368NB, during taxi resulting in substantial damage to both airplanes near gate G10, at Minneapolis/St. Paul International Airport (MSP), Minneapolis, Minnesota. Both airplanes were operated by Northwest Airlines Inc. (NWA) under Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 121 as scheduled-domestic passenger flights 1495 (N763NC) and 1849 (N368NB). Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time the accident. Both airplanes were evacuated after the collision. N763NC's captain received serious injuries, the first officer received minor injuries, and a flight attendant received minor injuries. One flight attendant aboard N368NB received minor injuries. One ramp service agent received minor injuries. N763NC departed Port Columbus International Airport (CMH), Columbus, Ohio, at 1826 eastern daylight time and with a scheduled destination to MSP.

N763NC experienced a reported loss of right hydraulic system fluid quantity during a climb to cruise from CMH. The flight continued to MSP where a landing was made without incident. The flight then taxied under its own power to gate G10 where it stopped and awaited a tow into the gate while N368NB was being pushed back by a tug. N763NC then moved forward and impacted the right wing of N368NB. Both airplanes were evacuated using N763NC's rear airstair door and N368NB's front left slide.

Examination of N763NC's right hydraulic system revealed the right hydraulic reservoir fluid quantity was below "EMPTY," and the left hydraulic reservoir fluid quantity was above "FULL." The right side hydraulic system was pressurized with hydraulic fluid and a leak from the rudder shutoff valve housing was noted. The rudder shutoff valve, part number 3772374-5503 G, serial number RON 1185, had a recorded total time in service of 62,436 hours. The rudder shutoff valve was removed and sent to the National Transportation Safety Board's Materials Laboratory for further examination.

Parties to the investigation are the Air Line Pilot Association, Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association, Federal Aviation Administration, Northwest Airlines Inc., and the Professional Flight Attendants Association.
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Post by: Pooh21 on July 12, 2006, 01:11:49 AM
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
so..what was the verdict?


Total HYdra failure?
Dc9 pilot was on her cellphone and yelling at the crumbcrunchers in the backseat.
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Post by: Dinger on July 12, 2006, 02:06:25 AM
In-flight partial Hydraulic failure, landed normally. Shut down one engine on taxi -- the one powering the remaining hydraulics. Pilot starts to taxi, suddenly realizes no brakes. Thinking on his feet, he decides to go full reverse. Without hydraulics, the thrust reversers stay where they are.
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Post by: Nilsen on July 12, 2006, 02:48:57 AM
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Originally posted by Stringer
I see the DC9 has a new Airbus braking system.


:rofl
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Post by: Nilsen on July 12, 2006, 02:49:44 AM
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Originally posted by detch01
Eeeek! ActiveX site.  No thanks.


hello mini-skuzzy :D
Title: NWA Airbus/DC9 collision...
Post by: detch01 on July 12, 2006, 12:12:21 PM
hiya's:D





asw
Title: NWA Airbus/DC9 collision...
Post by: Sparks on July 12, 2006, 01:23:19 PM
I must admit the DC9 / MD80 / Boeing 717 is not an airplane I'm really comfortable on.  While I was at an airline in the far east they had 717's and had two total hydraulic failures due to failures of main hoses.
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Post by: Furball on July 12, 2006, 01:26:19 PM
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Originally posted by Sparks
I must admit the DC9 / MD80 / Boeing 717 is not an airplane I'm really comfortable on.  While I was at an airline in the far east they had 717's and had two total hydraulic failures due to failures of main hoses.


That cant be right. :mad:

Boeings dont go wrong.

Let me bring you back up to speed.

Airbus = bad.

Boeing = good.

It may help you remember if you learn this hilarious little rhyme: -

"if its not Boeing.... i'm not going" !!! :rofl :rofl
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Post by: Fishu on July 12, 2006, 02:02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Sparks
I must admit the DC9 / MD80 / Boeing 717 is not an airplane I'm really comfortable on.


I've had the most comfortable flights on DC9-series (including MD80). Not so much because of the non-existant luxuries, like in todays planes, but because it was comfortable to ride when the plane was either climbing or descending. The worst has been MD-11 and DC-10 (both basically the same), because each bloody time my ears are having a bad day when the plane begins the final descent.

Unfortunately I have no comparative experience with any of the airbusses, small jets or boeings.
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Post by: Skuzzy on July 12, 2006, 02:06:20 PM
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Originally posted by detch01
Eeeek! ActiveX site.  No thanks.
Good man.  It is time to step up and fight this moronic tool brought to the Internet by the evil empire.
It is a solemn dream, where computers all over the world are free from this plague.  Free to roam without fear of malicious software planting itself in our computers.  Free to open a WEB page without unknowingly giving up private information.
Such feedom comes at a price.  But none can be too high.  This war must be fought on all fronts, with great fervor and tenacity.  Through this clicking, back button use, and mouse overs we will persevere.  
I hope to live to see the day where man and computer can transfer data without fear of this plague infesting the core of our very being.

Rise you stalwarts of humanity.  Rise against the coad!  Thrust yourselves into the mire.  Pull yourselves out of harm's way and deny all that is ActiveX!!


Oh, and I like the DC9/MD80, except for the belly-flop landings they have a tendency to do.
Title: NWA Airbus/DC9 collision...
Post by: Nilsen on July 12, 2006, 03:27:45 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Good man.  It is time to step up and fight this moronic tool brought to the Internet by the evil empire.
It is a solemn dream, where computers all over the world are free from this plague.  Free to roam without fear of malicious software planting itself in our computers.  Free to open a WEB page without unknowingly giving up private information.
Such feedom comes at a price.  But none can be too high.  This war must be fought on all fronts, with great fervor and tenacity.  Through this clicking, back button use, and mouse overs we will persevere.  
I hope to live to see the day where man and computer can transfer data without fear of this plague infesting the core of our very being.

Rise you stalwarts of humanity.  Rise against the coad!  Thrust yourselves into the mire.  Pull yourselves out of harm's way and deny all that is ActiveX!!


Oh, and I like the DC9/MD80, except for the belly-flop landings they have a tendency to do.


You lead the way young jedi

*sound of marching ewoks*
Title: NWA Airbus/DC9 collision...
Post by: 101ABN on July 12, 2006, 05:07:43 PM
WOW, now those are some lucky folks... glad there was no spark.