Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ace_Newbie on July 11, 2006, 06:09:18 PM
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I am new to the PC world of flight. There are so many Jet fight games out I wanted to get peoples opinons of what games are their favorite?
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Jets suck! Literally.
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The best jet fighter game is a game called AH2! You'll have to check it out.:aok
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I never could understand how those things fly without the spinnin thing on the front..
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I haven't flown in a jet fighter game for years.. I always found them kinda boring and some what skilless...
Somehow it's just more fun in a prop driven plane that is more effeced by gravity rather than those jet things you speek of.
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Lock On is a great game that doesn't require a huge learning curve; Falcon 4.0 is the ultimate jet simulation which has a HUGE learning curve and tons of things to mess around with but I think the Lock on community is more active.
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Originally posted by nopoop
I never could understand how those things fly without the spinnin thing on the front..
The fan right? Its supposed to keep pilot's cool...:lol
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I have Lock on
I have Falcon 4.0
I have Pacific Fighters
I have Il2
I have Allied Forces
I coulda saved myself $150 cos I only play AH2. All the others suck.
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Originally posted by cav58d
The fan right? Its supposed to keep pilot's cool...:lol
It works too, don't believe me...just watch the pilot sweat when it stops
:D
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Originally posted by Rino
It works too, don't believe me...just watch the pilot sweat when it stops
:D
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Lockon and Falcon 4 A/F are good choices.
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Originally posted by Rino
It works too, don't believe me...just watch the pilot sweat when it stops
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It also seems to effect bowel movements.
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If you like variety and jets from the 1960s and 1970s, then there is a great series with tons of free addon aircraft available: SFP1/WOV/WOE
These sims are a lot like Jane's Fighters Anthology with an upgrade to 3d graphics and realism with a modest downgrade to AI and online MP.
Go here for info and forums: http://www.thirdwire.com/
Strike Fighters Project 1 (available from Circuit City for $5, you can't go wrong buying and trying this one, but the stock map is a fictional desert terrain)
Wings Over Vietnam (new distributor, but same game engine with historical Vietnam terrain and more stock aircraft, about $20 at Circuit City)
Wings Over Europe (follow-on to WOV... but with Germany, the F-15, the A-10, MiG-23, and MiG-27 added... kind of a LOMAC lite, WOV can be merged automatically merged in during install, this release is brand new and goes for about $30 in retail stores)
All of the user mods for these sims are interchangeable. It is best if you own all 3 so that you have access to all of the stock files which may be necessary for some mods. There are too many mods to list, but include everything from endless aircraft variants to terrains and campaigns.
The stock aircraft list is good when you combine all 3 sims (some aircraft are non-flyable out of the box, but cockpit mods are available that make any and all aircraft flyable):
A-4B, A-4C, A-4E, A-4F
A-6A
A-7A, A-7B
A-10A
An-12
AV-8A
B-52D
B-57B
C-130A
F-4B, F-4C, F-4D, F-4E, F-4F, F-4J, F-4M (Phantom FGR.2)
F-8E
F-15A
F-100D
F-104G
F-105D
Harrier GR.1, Harrier GR.3
Hunter FGA.9
Il-28
MiG-17, MiG-17F
MiG-19S
MiG-21F, MiG-21MF, MiG-21PF, MiG-21PFM, MiG-21PFV
MiG-23M
MiG-27
O-1E
Su-7BM
Tu-16
Tu-22
User made addon aircraft generally equal or exceed stock aircraft quality and include almost the entire Mirage III and F1 families, the F-14, F-16, and F/A-18, almost every USN and USAF jet fighter made from the end of the WW2 to the 1970s, and plenty of MiGs and Sus as well. There is a large number of WW2 aircraft and terrains available, but the game does not fully support prop aircraft yet and the overall quality of most of the WW2 addons is lower than the jets (a lot of them have 3d models converted from other games that had poly count restrictions).
The game is still under development by the original programmer. Every time a new version is released, the older versions are patched to be compatible. For instance, WOV added support for carrier operations and WOE added support for HUD and CCIP avionics and 3d clouds. People who only have SFP1 now have all of those capabilities and only need to buy the later releases if they want access to the new stock planes, ground objects, terrains, and campaigns. There is a WWI version on the verge of release, but so far no distributor has been found for it. There are already some biplane addons from the pre-WW2 era.
While this sim series is great out of the box once patched to the current revision and has a ton of great addons, it does have a lot of limitations:
1. AI is nowhere near as bright as it could be. It is fairly strong in the dogfighting part (some of the best AI dogfights I have ever had in any sim), but fighters assigned to a strike mission or flying home will completely ignore attacks making them cannon fodder. Wingmen under your command never respond quite the way you want them to.
2. Online MP is very fun and I have been hosting a 24/7 server at Hyperlobby for a couple of years now, but is very limited compared to other sims. 2 modes: dogfight and co-op. Dogfight is great mindless furballing fun, but there is no way to rearm or refuel, so you have to out and get a fresh plane every now and then if you don't get shot down first. Co-op is cool, but you can only select the mission type (no way to make custom missions the way you can in single player) and the world is a lot more sterile (only enemies around the targets, no clouds) to try to keep down lag problems. There is no way to create a dedicated host for co-op.
I am fanatical about this game because I am an F-4 Phantom Phanatic and love MiG-21s as well. There is simply no better sim out there for flying these two aircraft in combat. The stock FMs are a little dumbed down, but I proved the game engine was capable of matching published data by making an F-4B FM that almost nails the charts in the pilot's manual. I still think Aces High is the best sim for WW2 air combat, but for jets I spend most of my time on SF/WOV/WOE. The best part is that the game keeps getting better by the day as modders figure out more ways to use the features available via the ini files and the developer (TK of Thirdwire) continues to add features via service packs and patches. If TK ever gets around to supporting online MP properly, I probably wouldn't play any other flight sim.
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when the shaklton was due for retirement , 8sqn had a zap sticker that read
8 screws are better than 4 blow jobs :)
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Falcon 4: Allied Force is a mixed bag. The multiplayer isn't bad, when you can find people to play. The campaign system is nice & the mission builder is cool. I've put together some nasty air defense networks for people to try and sneak through. The graphics could use an overhaul. You have to really, really like flying F-16s. The manual is ridiculous, and it's a definate time investment if you want to play anything but easy mode.
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Streakeagle, are there replacement FM's for all the planes? I heard that the planes don't even stall, is that true?
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Jane's Fighters Anthology is still my favorite.
Does Wings Over Vietnam have a custom mission builder tool?