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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on July 11, 2006, 08:01:03 PM
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link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=395143&in_page_id=1770&ct=5)
Scientists are to investigate a hallucinogenic chemical in "magic mushrooms" as a possible new treatment for depression, anxiety and drug dependence.
The move follows an unusual study which showed that the compound, psilocybin, can prompt long lasting positive changes in mood and behaviour.
Researchers also found that people who took the chemical experienced genuine mystical experiences, as defined by psychologists.
A third of the 36 study participants described their psilocybin experience as the "most spiritually significant" of their lives.
Some likened it to the importance of the birth of their first child or the death of a parent.
Magic mushrooms, or "shrooms", come in several varieties, all of which contain psilocybin. Until last year a loophole in the law meant they were not illegal in their natural state in the UK.
Under the Drugs Act 2005 they are now classified as a Class A drug, like heroin or cocaine.
Professor Roland Griffiths, from Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions in Baltimore, Maryland, USA, led the study, the first rigorous investigation of the effects of "tripping" on a drug for decades.
Prof Griffiths said: "Under very defined conditions, with careful preparation, you can safely and fairly reliably occasion what's called a primary mystical experience that may lead to positive changes in a person. It's an early step in what we hope will be a large body of scientific work that will ultimately help people."
Prof Griffiths said human research into the potential positive effects of hallucinogen drugs had been "frozen in time" for 40 years due to the excesses of the 1960s.
A number of promising leads were left "dangling" as a result.
"Our study is among the first to re-open this field," said Prof Griffiths.
Magic mushrooms produce "trips" lasting between four and eight hours.
Users see hallucinogenic visions, lose track of time, and may experience laughing fits. Colours and lights are intensified.
Among the known adverse effects are vomiting, anxiety and paranoia. "Shrooms" are especially risky for anyone with mental problems.
(http://www.southern.com/MMM/morrisimages/timothy_leary.jpg)
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They are scientists and know much more than I. Whatever the potential benefits are I can authoritatively state that it is vital to avoid high stakes poker games after consuming them.
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Some pills make you larger
Some pills make you small
It's the ones that mother gives you
That dont do anything at all
Go ask Alice
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I miss Peter Maxx.
shamus
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SWEET!!!!!!!
Shrooms and Yellow submarine are great combo's.
Yellow Submarine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKatx0raNbs&search=yellow%20submarine)
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Too dangerous! All it takes is one toadstool spore to pollinate the mushroom, and though it may look like the real thing and be the real thing, it would be poisonous.
The mushrooms we eat that we buy from the store are grown in mines, and you have to go through a decontamination room to get in from the outside. This ensures no foreign spoors get in. At least that's what I've heard.
Les
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Oct will toss in a miniscule NO ****!! to the equation. Now on to more important things... such as pineal DMT. :p
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Uh, not thanks... last time I did that, I laughed so much (quanitatively wise) my jaw hurt for almost a week.
Leslie, didn't know that... we used to pick them up ourselves close to cow dungs in the field and wash them down with a glass of milk... no decontamination. I don't think knowing that would have turned us away from it back then though...
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Saw, I think Les means common species like portobello and oyster mushrooms. A cave sounds like a good idea for mass producing them.
I dunno about the toadstool stuff. Mushrooms have a very fine underground network that can span entire fields, and the actual mushroom as the above-ground component. Not sure if other species 'migrate' and cross contaminate different species too often without external intervention (ie, deliberate mixing). You can perform a few tests to identify. Some poisonous shrooms are very similar in appearance to psylocibin containing species, so eating/waiting aint a wise test :D
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Of course that's what I meant Octavius. Could it be any other way? I tried that stuff one time, about 4 ounces in ice cube and tea form. Was driving to Mississippi to get beer. On the way back I was seeing purple snakes on the road directly in front of the car. There was sheet lightning in the distance and a tree by the side of the road looked like a house with a mountain background, due to the clouds. These weren't sustained but were momentary.
Fortunately that didn't last too long because I was in a car driving down the interstate. We made it home in one piece. Didn't ingest enough to trip, and glad I didn't.:D
Les
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Originally posted by Leslie
Of course that's what I meant Octavius. Could it be any other way? I tried that stuff one time, about 4 ounces....
:confused:
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During HS days Nash. I didn't partake except that one time. I didn't want to trip and lose control of my mind.
Les
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Btw, those were 4 liquid ounces, about the size of a small cup.:)
Les
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Wow! Far out man.
:D
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I credit my easy going nature to the hundreds of hits of acid I did as a youth in the 70's and on.
lazs
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Originally posted by Leslie
Btw, those were 4 liquid ounces, about the size of a small cup.:)
Les
Ahh.... okay. :)
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Magic Mushrooms were legally on sale here until January when the government panicked and banned sale or possession. Naturally of course the 'problem' went away and magic mushrooms are now impossible to find.....:p along with Heroin, Cocaine, Cannabis etc unless you walk down certain streets in broad daylight and ask shifty men where you can find any. I don't of course not least because I apparently look like an undercover cop. Drug dealers scatter down side streets when they see me?:aok
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1975 was makin 'sroom tea... what's the point of this thread?
All my children are above normal IQ.... Thank GAWD we wern't Canadians!
Watching the Canadian Space Program Launch on CNN now but I think it'll be postponed.
Both Mounties arms are tired and the Beaver is getting no higher, looks really pisssed too.
After 8 attempts now I think the Beaver is gonna turn on the Mounties....
My money is on the Beaver!
:D
Mac
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Researchers also found that people who took the chemical experienced genuine mystical experiences, as defined by psychologists.
What the heck is a genuine mystical experience?
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Originally posted by lazs2
I credit my easy going nature to the hundreds of hits of acid I did as a youth in the 70's and on.
lazs
amen.
still waiting for those dang flashbacks I was promised.
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Originally posted by lukster
Researchers also found that people who took the chemical experienced genuine mystical experiences, as defined by psychologists.
What the heck is a genuine mystical experience?
To me that means hard core hallucinations. The type that are so real you have no doubt they are really happening.
Old friends comming out of the woods to say hi and passing so close, you can feel the air move as they pass and smell the calogne/ perfume you have known them to wear. Trees talking to you as the wind blows through them. Sitting back into a chair, listening to the wind and feeling it blow around every hair folical exposed to the air and you body tunes itself to the rythem of what goes on around you. These are examples of good hallucinations.
little things like minor color changes, wavy blinds, mosiaic moon light bouncing off leaves at night, etc are what I would consider a low grade hallucination beccause there is no "real" substance to it.
Taking a trip and never leaving the farm isnt for everybody, but I do think some people would tremendously benefit from it.
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It's the genuine part I'm wondering about.
So, what is the ugliest part of your body?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
still waiting for those dang flashbacks I was promised.
No sh**! LIARZ!!!111
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Originally posted by lukster
What the heck is a genuine mystical experience?
"The most beautiful and most profound emotion we can experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. So to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead."
albert einstein
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Don't tell me you guys have dropped out and turned on yet don't recognize this:
What is the ugliest part of your body (http://music.allofmp3.com/r2/Frank_Zappa/We`re_Only_In_It_For_The_Money_(with_The_Mothers)/group_4853/album_37/song_8/albref_41/preview.shtml)
And you call yourselves heads. :cool:
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Originally posted by lukster
Researchers also found that people who took the chemical experienced genuine mystical experiences, as defined by psychologists.
What the heck is a genuine mystical experience?
Jimi
"Are you experienced?"
"Have you ever been experienced?"
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Jimi
"Are you experienced?"
"Have you ever been experienced?"
Jimi could sure make that guitar sing but I think he got his sex, drugs, and guitar all a bit confused. ;)
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I remember one "freak out" that made us all laugh for days....
We were tripping down on the beach at night near Morro Bay. If you've never seen a coast cypress tree they look like this:
(http://www.avonoldfarms.com/uploaded/photos/athletics/spring/vgolf/trip04/cypress2.jpg)
Notice how they lean away from the water.
Anyway while lying on the sand I was looking at a stand of these trees at night when I noticed they were all leaning the same direction. In fact they looked like they were in a strong wind storm.. in fact there must be a freakin hurricane cause those trees are REALLY BENT OVER!! OMG!! I'm in a hurricane and I can't feel it!!! I must be paralysed!!!!
It was funny later.
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Keep on truckin'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Crumb