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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Furball on July 12, 2006, 06:29:21 AM
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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13532385,00.html
ruh roh... wwiii beginning?
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ok everyone into the bomb shelter..............:noid
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They were asking for it.
This border was marked by the UN and recognized as an international border. Israel stopped all flights into Lebanon airspace till the 1st kiddnaping of Israeli soldiers (they were killed) a few years ago and the refusal of the Lebanon goverment to deploy its army along the border.
The UN of course was displeased with them to such extent that it did not hasitate and gave them "the funny look". That would show them.
Still, the Hizballa is operating freely in south Lebanon since august 2000 and perform periodic attacks (about every 2-3 months) on Israeli patrols (on the Israeli side) and rocket fire on northern Israeli settelments. I heard on the radio that 12 civilians were injured this time.
I find it funny I agree with my prime minster, but this is not a terrorist attack - this is Lebanon attacking Israel and a "casus belli". I feel sorry for the Lebanoniese, but if they don't get their act together and rule their friggin' country, they can only blame themselves.
The Hizballa today is also a political organization and has representatives in the parlament. Therefore even the usual stupid excuse that it is an independent organization that did the attack will not work.
Silly sods. Just as their economy was recovering and at the begining of a very promising tourist season. See how many tourists would enjoy the sunny beach of beirut, the sonic booms of Israeli fighters and the candle light after the trasformators station will be bombed. WTG on screwing yourselves :furious
The middle east is just too frustrating for me.
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does indeed sound like they were asking for it.
i wonder if this will be the excuse for Iran to declare war on Israel...
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Next... Ebonia!
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i don't think Iran is "quite" ready for that. but no question that personalities in Iran and Syria are directing events on the Islamic side... they are intractible... they've already interefered witha compramise solution brokered by Egypt. the impression is that anti-Israeli sentiment is rising all over the islamic world and is being further stoked among extremists/terrorists. its pretty hard to be optimistic about any kind of peace over there, in fact, it seems more and more likely Israel may gett backed up against the wall someday soon.
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Good luck bozon, and stay safe.
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yep, here it comes... world war 3.... time to repack the ruck and clean the weapon.. :aok
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Originally posted by Furball
does indeed sound like they were asking for it.
i wonder if this will be the excuse for Iran to declare war on Israel...
Maybe, the war predicted by Ezekiel shows that "Persia(Iran ) will be with them", and this war will mark the beginning of the tribulation
"""""""The word of the LORD came to me: "Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal; prophesy against him and say: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army-your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, also Gomer with all its troops and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops-the many nations with you. (Ezek. 38:1-6)""""""""
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Oh yeah... it should be entertaining if they are going to use horses, spears and shields :D
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i wouldn't assume this is just another day in the middle east ... i hope im wrong... but the nuke technology is now in wrong hands and in spite of interceptions at sea, the technology will be sold, its only a matter of time. You have not only the problem that the genie is out of the bottle and a weapon may be usedin the future, but right now, 3rd worlders all over the world are emboldoned, particularly in the middle east, and the nut jobs are cranking it up from Iran and Syria.
Now Israel is catching it on two fronts, Palestine and Lebanon. Is this a cooperative strategy between Hamas and Hezbola? What happens if another group is able to kidnap, say, a female Israeli soldier? Israel already considers people in Iran to be at fault. And Iran has already vowed that Israel is going to be vaporised... Has Israel ever been closer to using a nuke?
I can visualize this escalating into a more dangerous thing than we've seen yet
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Is it war?
I find it offensive to elevate the status of antisocial criminals and murderers to warrior status. I prefer to think of it as arresting them, in the most literal context of the word.
Even our biological cousin the chimp won't tolerate in his society infractions of the nature that these nonhuman men inflict on ours.
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just so you know The US won the cold war that one being WWIII, if you want to get technical the US won the first actual WW when we beat the limeys from our shores, the start of that departure commencing on October 17, 1781. so this might actually be nothing but if it were to be numbered it would be WWV.
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a world war .....by it's very name implies more than 2 participants.....
or have you not seen a map of the world recently ????
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Have to excuse storch. He has been through too many hurricanes. The sudden changes of air pressure during those storms have a tendency to play 'whack-a-mole' with yer noggin. :)
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lmao Skuzzy is teh funnay.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Suave
Even our biological cousin the chimp won't tolerate in his society infractions of the nature that these nonhuman men inflict on ours.
You may be amazed at the barbarity that the west has commited even in the past few decades that was not just tolerated, but in some cases cheered.
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Originally posted by expat
a world war .....by it's very name implies more than 2 participants.....
or have you not seen a map of the world recently ????
The American Revolution was fought between english colonial America, the english, the french, the spanish which were allied to france and all of the colonies of said nations in the entire western hemisphere. battles of that war were fought near the shores of france and england, the North American continent and the caribbean basin. it was indeed a world war and it lasted for roughly five decades spanning from the middle of the 18th century through the early 19th century. combatant nations in the latter part of the war were russia, france, england, the newly created United States, spain, mexico, the newly created haiti, cuba, santo domingo (now the dominican republic) and others I don't recall off hand.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Good luck bozon, and stay safe.
lol, thanks mate.
I got 5 calls already from friends and family asking me if I got the "other" call. I have service duty schedualed for next week up north anyway.
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FWIW, the news headlines on Yahoo indicate 2 more Isreali soldiers have been captured.
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Originally posted by Maverick
FWIW, the news headlines on Yahoo indicate 2 more Isreali soldiers have been captured.
and at least 6 killed
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Take a pill folks, when Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 nobody was talking about WW3. This is a small incursion in comparison.
You need something on the scale of the 1973 Yom Kippur conflict before getting too excited. Its the middle east, Hezbola and the IDF exchange fire daily there.
...in case thats news to anybody.
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OMG war in the middle east!
Say it ins't so, I mean its not like this happends all the time.
:rolleyes:
Isreal is going to kick the **** out of lebanon. They may even declare war. A week after that the war will be over and lebanon will be in ruins.
Not that its much better off now.
Hell they may even just keep it.
Life will go on and the middle east will still be a ****hole with a stranglehold on the worlds oil supply.
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Originally posted by storch
just so you know The US won the cold war that one being WWIII, if you want to get technical the US won the first actual WW when we beat the limeys from our shores, the start of that departure commencing on October 17, 1781. so this might actually be nothing but if it were to be numbered it would be WWV.
Originally posted by storch
The American Revolution was fought between english colonial America, the english, the french, the spanish which were allied to france and all of the colonies of said nations in the entire western hemisphere. battles of that war were fought near the shores of france and england, the North American continent and the caribbean basin. it was indeed a world war and it lasted for roughly five decades spanning from the middle of the 18th century through the early 19th century. combatant nations in the latter part of the war were russia, france, england, the newly created United States, spain, mexico, the newly created haiti, cuba, santo domingo (now the dominican republic) and others I don't recall off hand.
I wonder how you came to the conclusion that the American Revolution was the first “world war”. Because by your own definition there were many “world wars” that were fought long before America was even discovered. Some even before the birth of Christ.
I think Skuzzy might have a point.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
OMG war in the middle east!
Say it ins't so, I mean its not like this happends all the time.
:rolleyes:
Isreal is going to kick the **** out of lebanon. They may even declare war. A week after that the war will be over and lebanon will be in ruins.
Not that its much better off now.
Hell they may even just keep it.
Life will go on and the middle east will still be a ****hole with a stranglehold on the worlds oil supply.
I think you need to get your head out of the 1980s. The Lebanese civil war is long since over and what was once called the pearl of the middle-east has been rebuilt to its former glory.
… so I guess it’s time to destroy it again *sigh*
(http://www.unep.org/wed/2003/downloads/Beirut%20today.JPG)
(http://www.mai.liu.se/~mypal/Photos/Lebanon/beirut%20at%20night.jpg)
(http://www.berro.com/beirut_pictures/Beirut_At_Night.jpg)
(http://www.enterthechapel.com/gallery/lebanon_september_2005/sept23_DSC01074.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/drysdale/Images/Beirut/Beirut_corniche2.jpg)
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If those who rebuilt all of that don't want it smashed back into ruins, they'd best be telling their buddies to leave Israel alone, release those soldiers, and find a better way to occupy their time. Israel is going to tire of this crap rather quickly. That ain't the UN and the U.S. those fools are screwing with. They won't kiss the bellybutton of a dozen countries and wait for permission before they take care of business.
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In fairness to the average Lebonese (assuming there IS such a person), Hezbollah OWNS southern Lebanon, and there isn't much for anyone to do about it, as they are supported by Syria/Iran. Hezbollah crossed the Israeli border to strike at a small military target...(couple-three humvees) killed 8 of them, and captured 2--probably beacause they didn't WANT any more than 2.
(p.s. Naturally Kofi Annan is condemning Israel)
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Kofi is not happy? Oh my.
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Originally posted by uvwpvW
I wonder how you came to the conclusion that the American Revolution was the first “world war”. Because by your own definition there were many “world wars” that were fought long before America was even discovered. Some even before the birth of Christ.
I think Skuzzy might have a point.
interesting. this is from a guy who is located in the asylum too. while there have been other "world wars" (macedonia, the persian empire, genghis kahn, the carthaginians, the romans etc.) the point I was attempting to make and some have missed is that arbitrarily picking the 1914-1918 conflict between the pertually bickering euros as "WWI" is incorrect. the first european war to actually encompass a good part of the actual "world" would be that period in the latter "age of discovery" commencing with the struggles between the major european powers of the time over their lucrative claims in the "new world" the far east and africa. do you not agree?
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This is somewhat relevant here...saw it on another bbs:
To my Arab brothers: The War with Israel Is Over — and they won. Now let's finally move forward
By Youssef M. Ibrahim
With Israel entering its fourth week of an incursion into the same Gaza Strip it voluntarily evacuated a few months ago, a sense of reality among Arabs is spreading through commentary by Arab pundits, letters to the editor, and political talk shows on Arabic-language TV networks. The new views are stunning both in their maturity and in their realism. The best way I can think of to convey them is in the form of a letter to the Palestinian Arabs from their Arab friends:
Dear Palestinian Arab brethren:
The war with Israel is over.
You have lost. Surrender and negotiate to secure a future for your children.
We, your Arab brothers, may say until we are blue in the face that we stand by you, but the wise among you and most of us know that we are moving on, away from the tired old idea of the Palestinian Arab cause and the "eternal struggle" with Israel.
Dear friends, you and your leaders have wasted three generations trying to fight for Palestine, but the truth is the Palestine you could have had in 1948 is much bigger than the one you could have had in 1967, which in turn is much bigger than what you may have to settle for now or in another 10 years. Struggle means less land and more misery and utter loneliness.
At the moment, brothers, you would be lucky to secure a semblance of a state in that Gaza Strip into which you have all crowded, and a small part of the West Bank of the Jordan. It isn't going to get better. Time is running out even for this much land, so here are some facts, figures, and sound advice, friends.
You hold keys, which you drag out for television interviews, to houses that do not exist or are inhabited by Israelis who have no intention of leaving Jaffa, Haifa, Tel Aviv, or West Jerusalem. You shoot old guns at modern Israeli tanks and American-made fighter jets, doing virtually no harm to Israel while bringing the wrath of its mighty army down upon you. You fire ridiculously inept Kassam rockets that cause little destruction and delude yourselves into thinking this is a war of liberation. Your government, your social institutions, your schools, and your economy are all in ruins.
Your young people are growing up illiterate, ill, and bent on rites of death and suicide, while you, in effect, are living on the kindness of foreigners, including America and the United Nations. Every day your officials must beg for your daily bread, dependent on relief trucks that carry food and medicine into the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, while your criminal Muslim fundamentalist Hamas government continues to fan the flames of a war it can neither fight nor hope to win.
In other words, brothers, you are down, out, and alone in a burnt-out landscape that is shrinking by the day.
What kind of struggle is this? Is it worth waging at all? More important, what kind of miserable future does it portend for your children, the fourth or fifth generation of the Arab world's have-nots?
We, your Arab brothers, have moved on.
Those of us who have oil money are busy accumulating wealth and building housing, luxury developments, state-of-the-art universities and schools, and new highways and byways. Those of us who share borders with Israel, such as Egypt and Jordan, have signed a peace treaty with it and are not going to war for you any time soon. Those of us who are far away, in places like North Africa and Iraq, frankly could not care less about what happens to you.
Only Syria continues to feed your fantasies that someday it will join you in liberating Palestine, even though a huge chunk of its territory, the entire Golan Heights, was taken by Israel in 1967 and annexed. The Syrians, my friends, will gladly fight down to the last Palestinian Arab.
Before you got stuck with this Hamas crowd, another cheating, conniving, leader of yours, Yasser Arafat, sold you a rotten bill of goods — more pain, greater corruption, and millions stolen by his relatives — while your children played in the sewers of Gaza.
The war is over. Why not let a new future begin?
Youssef M. Ibrahim, a former New York Times Middle East Correspondent and Wall Street Journal Energy Editor for 25 years, is a freelance writer based in New York City and Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. Comment by clicking here.
http://jewishworldreview.com/0706/ibrahim.php3
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If only they had the good sense and the ability to read and understand that.
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amen..
you need to learn hwo to read first..
Education....this is truly FUBAR
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heh.