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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Fester' on August 24, 2001, 04:16:00 PM
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droool!
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/natedog/mossie6.jpg)
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*UNNGGGGG*
Oh, I gatta clean my pants... dammit :D
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Oh man.....if any of you thought you've heard whinin before...just wait :D
This is a bad bird....I knew guys in awdos who could kill at will with this thing...gonna be interesting...lol
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the mossie is faster and will out turn fight a dora
(runs and hides in bunker)
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Karnak and Dowding just took their first tenuous steps to happiness... ;)
[ 08-24-2001: Message edited by: Kieran ]
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OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!
Folks, you are looking at 418 Squadron (Edmonton) Robert Kipp's Mossie!
See that little maple leaf? Canadians we now have our plane!
YESSSSSSSS!!!!
Well done Nate and everyone!!!! Looks gorgeous!!
EH into AH!
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In the MA this thing will be meat on the table for the Luffwabbles. If it runs it will only die tired. If it turns it will only die disoriented.
It's another great CT/SEA plane though.
ra
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how much 20mm does the VI mossie hold?
600 rounds? or more than that?
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Fester,
The RAF Museum replied to that question with this answer:
Dear Mr Ahola,
Thank you for your enquiry. The RAF manual for the Mosquito VI includes a
table for weight and loading. This quotes 2000 rounds of 0.303 ammunition
for the Brownings and 600 20mm rounds for the Hispanos - i.e. 500 rounds per
Browning and 150 per Hispano.
However, there are also two lines:
"Total Overload Browning Ammunition, 3120 rounds" and
"Total Overload Hispano Gun Ammunition, 700 rounds"
which suggests to me that in certain circumstances the aircraft could carry
780 rounds per Browning and 175 rounds per Hispano. I have no information on
how often these loads - or other variations - were carried, but you might
like to contact:
Mosquito Aircrew Association
Mr T Wilson (Membership Secretary)
21 Kingwell Road
Hadley Wood
Barnet
Herts
EN4 0HZ
Yours sincerely,
Peter Elliott
Senior Keeper
Department of Research & Information Services
Royal Air Force Museum
Hendon
London
NW9 5LL
Direct line: 020-8358-4850
Switchboard: 020-8205-2266
Direct Fax: 020-8358-4991 (Office hours only)
Fax (24 hours) 020-8200-1751
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Am I mental or is there no Mossie in AH
Or is it pending in next version.
Im probably just mental
Tozza
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Originally posted by Fester':
how much 20mm does the VI mossie hold?
600 rounds? or more than that?
FB.VI: Fighter-Bomber and Intruder (Day and Night). Same gun armament as F.II but also carried two 250 lb. (113 kg.) bombs in rear bay and two more on wings (eventually increased to 500 lb.). Alternatively, 50 or 100 gal. drop tanks, mines, depth charges or eight 60 lb. rockets could be fitted to wing stations. Some aircraft were fitted with AI radar. Total production: 2,584. This variant was the most numerous.
F.II: Night fighter. Pilot and observer sit side by side. Flat, bullet resistant windscreen, extended engine nacelles (standard for later versions). Armament consists of four 20mm Hispano cannon under cockpit with 300 rounds per gun and four .303 in. Brownings mounted in nose with 2000 rounds per gun. Subsequently fitted with A1 Mk IV or V Radar or Turbinlight searchlight.
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HTC, I...I LOVE YOU, I KISS YOU!!
Thanks!!!
:D :D :D
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me thinks ra needs a cuff up side of the head, he is delierious(sp?)
A mossie will be the ultimate buff hunter once it has some alt.
The mossie with Alt will likely be a pretty durn good BnZ'er too!! (not E fighter)
what somethin close to 380+ mph +)
hmm that version doesn't have a bombsite does it? if it doesn't we need the glass nose too!!
SKurj
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whels,
The Mosquito VI we're getting is a Series 2.
The Series 2 could cary 2 500lb bombs in the bomb bay and 2 500lb bombs under the wings. You could, of course, carry 250lb bombs instead. The Series 2 can also carry 8 60lb rockets under its wings as well as drop tanks.
The major difference between the Series 1 and Series 2 was the engines. The Series 1 was powered by 2 Merlin 21 or 23 engines rated at 1,480hp. The Series 2 was powered by 2 Merlin 25 engines rated at 1,680hp.
[ 08-24-2001: Message edited by: Karnak ]
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S!
Guess what`s the next logical step: V1 and V2 sites for the Mossie`s to attack!
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so standard 20mm load was 600 rounds total?
and max overload of 20mm 700 rounds?
(http://www.kitparade.com/gallery01/images/mosquitofbvias_1.JPG)
here is interior model of mossie VI (http://kitreview.com/reviews/images/mossie_2.jpg)
[ 08-24-2001: Message edited by: Fester' ]
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Fester,
According to the RAF Museum the max overload was 700 rounds.
Standard 20mm load: 150 rounds per gun.
Maximum Overload 20mm load: 175 rounds per gun.
150 x 4 = 600
175 x 4 = 700
whels information is incorrect. It is a mistake that stems from the fact that 1 ammo box was shared by 2 20mm cannon. Some authors saw the box listed at 300 rounds and believed that each gun had its own box. In fact there are two boxes, each with 300 (350 if overloaded) rounds in two belts, one for each gun drawing from that box.
The Browning .303 load is also a total of 2,000 rounds, 500 per gun or an overload total of 3,120 rounds, 780 per gun.
[ 08-24-2001: Message edited by: Karnak ]
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:) I thought that one looked familiar... though the model I have hasn't got the red rectangular bits above the radiators.
(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/BlackRufe.jpg)
Heh,I would have thought they'd have gone for the HT-C markins ;)
Finally the RAF are getting some much need rides! :)
WTG
Regards
Nexx
[ 08-24-2001: Message edited by: Replicant ]
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Finally the RAF are getting some much need rides! - Nexx
And the RCAF is getting its first! :D
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Originally posted by Nash:
And the RCAF is getting its first! :D
RAF squadron numbers, mostly RCAF crew.... either way, damn good show say what! :) Mosssssssssssiiiiiiiiiieeeeee eeeeeee :)
Nexx
[ 08-24-2001: Message edited by: Replicant ]
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Oh boy... I loved the Mosquito VI in WB's.... it might just transplant my p47 in here :D
Kronos
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this mossie already has a distinct advantage over the wb mossie VI.
you will actually be able to look around from a perspective much more realistic than wbs 2d art shows.
just hope this thing dosnt have external views.
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One thing's for sure- you're going to see far fewer Ju88's and B26's for a while...
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Perk it...
<G,D,R>
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Fester,
No kidding. The WB cockpit made it nigh unusable.
Kieran,
This Mosquito might be OK at killing B-26s and Ju-88s, but it sure won't replace them in the bomber role. It doesn't have a bomb sight and can "only" carry 2,000lbs of bombs.
Even a Mosquito B.IV would only have a minimal impact. The bombload 2,000lb is just too light destroy much. The Mosquito B.XVI can carry a 4,000lb bomb, but that would probably be perked.
On the other hand I still think that the Tu-2 is coming in 1.08 and that probably will have a significant impact on the numbers of B-26s and Ju-88s in the MA.
milnko,
:p
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when flying ju88 and praing awoid fighters
hapaned once when 2 b 17 begin chase my ju88
and now the mosie plague , that bird scare my in ju88 !
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minus,
That's because Mossies are Ju88 death.
Mosquitoes destroyed 324 Ju88s during WWII, and that wasn't counting the Ju188s that they destroyed. Mosquito FB.VIs were responsible for many of those kills.
That all said, Bf109G-10s, Fw190D-9s, P-51s, P-47s, La-5FNs, La-7s and Typhoons are all going to be Mossie death, so take heart.
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Mossie should NOT have external view... sure it a multicrew aircraft, but side by side seating should not equate to permitting an external view.
The only issue is.... if its hard coded that all "bombers" get external. As mossie will surely be in the "bomber" class.
SKurj
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Seems to me this plane can be employed very effectively in the JABO role.
Am glad we will finally get it; it's one plane I've been missing in the planeset for some time.
I'd now like a LW bird that can carry more than 1 500kg and 4 50kh (next to useless) eggs :).
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I'd love to see the gun camera footage of the Mk XVIII from this Mossie - Ju 88 scrap.
"On 10 March four Mk VIs which escorted two XVIIIs to an area about 30 miles north of Gijon on the Spanish coast, got into a vicious dogfight with eight to ten Ju 88s flying top cover for a German convoy of four destoyers and a U-boat. One of the Ju 88s immediately fell to a head-on attack by the four VIs and a second was shot down into the sea in flames shortly afterwards. The XVIIIs, meanwhile, went after the convoy. S/L Tony Phillips carried out four attacks on the U-boat and F/O Doug Turner, two. They damaged a destroyer and Phillips blasted a Ju 88 out of the sky with four shots from his Molins gun. One of the shells literally tore an engine from the Ju 88 and it spiralled down into the sea."
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Cit..
There loadout varied with Mission sorties. The torpedo sorties loaded out more 20mm and no 303s and carried 2 torps. I have the loadouts at home and will post em for ya.
Pyro, any plans on adding the 57mm tank AT gun to Mossie? She was called the Tsetse Mosquito. carried 23 to 25 rounds 6LB AT Gun.. 18 where produced, would be good for the perk list.
Dog out.....
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Thank you HTC. Our squadron - No.418 RCAF - has a real history connection to the night intruder.
Cannot wait to see it - and use it!! ;)
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Forget which markings it has, or wheather or not it has outside views, it's a Mosquito. :D It's even the attack version I was hoping for. :)
If we get the P-40 in 1.08 too, it's gonna be too much to bear. :eek:
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Love you HTC, another big, easy allied target to knock down out of the sky just like you do with the little anoying Mosquitos, this one will be easier to hit though :D
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Stsanta!! you have one!! +) the JU88 was a great divebomber, guess you just need a hardnose variant.
SKurj