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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: kevor34 on July 12, 2006, 11:39:05 PM
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I think we need a good american tank, to deal with the tigers. the sherman firefly (http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g183/kevor34/Sherman_Firefly-2.jpg)
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it gets my vote, but we wont be seeing anything new for a long time mate :)
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:aok :aok
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Not like its much of a challange for the tiger or even the panzer, i still say put it in
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i say put it in, it may be able to kill tanks, but a strong wind will kill it.
we got a jeep, why cant we have this,
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Originally posted by kevor34
I think we need a good american tank, to deal with the tigers. the sherman firefly (http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g183/kevor34/Sherman_Firefly-2.jpg)
Would be nice but it would be British, not American. The US Army didn't use it. The Brits modified some of their shermans to take their 17pd anti tank gun. The gun is actually mounted on it's side so it could fit in the turret. It was used more in the Tank Destroyer role.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
Would be nice but it would be British, not American. The US Army didn't use it. The Brits modified some of their shermans to take their 17pd anti tank gun. The gun is actually mounted on it's side so it could fit in the turret. It was used more in the Tank Destroyer role.
Ok then this ameri version would do just as well.
(http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/m4a3e8.jpg)
Easy Eight.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Bronk
Ok then this ameri version would do just as well.
Easy Eight.
Bronk
no it wouldnt, the 17 pounder was WAY more effective than anything the americans fielded, due in part to their use of SABOT rounds.
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Ok Id go for this then.(http://www.battletanks.com/images/M36_slugger-2.jpg)
90mm of HV AP goodness.:D
Bronk
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Bronk where'd your titty avatar go? :confused: :(
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Skuzzified.
Somebody cried to skuzzy about his getting removed . So mine and hondo's and JB28's got nuked.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Nemeth
Not like its much of a challange for the tiger or even the panzer, i still say put it in
Yep, that's what Michael Wittmann and the 3 other Tigers he was with thought just before one Firefly knocked out all 4 of them.
The key is that the 17 pounder cannon could compete with the Tiger's 88 and could penetrate the Tiger's armor.
That doesn't mean the Firefly could stand up to the Tiger's 88 any better then any other Sherman, but it packed the punch to fight the Tiger and was a threat to the Tiger.
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if you want a sweet tank destroyer, you cant go wrong with the Hetzer:
(http://www.2ndpanzerdivision.com/hetzer.jpg)
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Greetings,
TDs,,,yep. Would recommend Stug III tho. More common and had two major models - 75mm AT and 105 Hwtzr.
Regards,
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Originally posted by kevor34
I think we need a good american tank, to deal with the tigers. the sherman firefly (http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g183/kevor34/Sherman_Firefly-2.jpg)
did he say good American tank ?
WTF is one of those lol.
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wut about this?
(http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9936/chiri52rf.png) (http://imageshack.us)
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Yoshimbo,
The Type 5 Chi-Ri never saw combat.
Japan focused on ships and aircraft letting their tanks lag far, far behind due to the limited industrial resources they had and the combat environments they expected. The Type 5 Chi-Ri was really the first Japanese unit that could seriously be considered a tank, though it would have been a rather weak one. Those that they had built were being saved for use against the Allied invasion of Japan itself.
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ok ok, u got me there, it was just a prototype, but still, it would be awesome though.
BUT THIS ON THE OTHER HAND WAS NOT just a prototype, it saw production and was/is consider one of the best tanks of the war, along with the t34/85.
behold....THE PANTHER...
(http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/6383/panthertankcolor1zc.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Sum stats
Crew: 5
Combat weight: 44.8 metric tons, 46.58 with steel bogies
Length (with gun): 8.66 m
Length (without gun): 6.87 m
Width: 3.27 m (without skirt plates)
Height: 2.85 m
Road speed @ 3000 rpm: 55 km/h
Road speed @ 2500 rpm: 46 km/h
Road range: 200 km
Type: V-12, four-stroke
Power @ 3000 rpm: 700 hp
Fuel consumption (road): 3.5l/km
Fuel capacity: 720 L
Transmission: ZF AK 7-200
Gears: 7/1
Main gun: 70 calibers 7.5 cm Kwk 42
Maximum muzzle velocity: 1120 m/s
Breech: semiautomatic
Traverse: 360°, 24°/second
Elevation: +18/-8°
Rounds carried: 79, 82 on Ausf. G
Primary gun sight: Leitz TZF 12 (Ausf. D), TZF 12a (A and G)
Magnification: 2,5 and 5x
Field of view: 28 and 14°
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It would b a good addition but there r alredy 2 german tanks, no brittish, american, italian or japanise, put the sherman in first (cant really consider the LVTa4 or a fighter tank) and i belive the 85 was a post WWII tank, it was used in 1954 in the Hungarian Revolution.
I did some research, here is a page that tell you all about the tanks of WWII WWII vehicles (http://www.wwiivehicles.com/)
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Greetings,
Sorry, the T34/85 saw extensive service during WWII.
If we want to argue historical use, then the T34 series, 76 and 85 were the most often used. I would wager the SU 85, SU 100 and SU 57 would not be far behind - in fact they would probly lead any single model of Ger, US or English TDs in number, effectiveness or impact on the war. If total development was based on numbers or year deployed, the Soviets would dominate the vehicles in AH.
The Soviet / Nazi front was -the- significant ground front in WW II. As much as I hate to say it, the Sovs did the heavy lifting on the ground.
Regards,
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I wasnt really talking bout the firepower, i was talkin bout the thin armor, a m8 could kill it with 2 or 3 rounds
MWL yes i kno the T34 saw extensive action, the crew would rather get to full speed and crash in2 the tigers and criple it that way than get in2 a fire fight, i had just thought that the T85 that was used through out the 50-70/80's i think was a totally different tank that the one used in WWII, i guess i stand corrected
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Originally posted by Bronk
Ok Id go for this then.
90mm of HV AP goodness.:D
Bronk
Hey u think thats good check this tank out IS-3 Heavy tank (http://www.wwiivehicles.com/ussr/tanks_heavy/is3.html)
Im not gonna spoil it by telling u :t
And i doubt a tiger could even stand up to this gun :aok
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Greetings,
Naw, not corrected. The T34/85 was used in the Hungarian revolt. The the T55 was available, however the T34 was used during training to avoid wearing out the new vehicles.
To gain surprise, the invasion was conducted with thte T34s - also, the crews probly new how to operate them better! :)
Regards
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Yep, that's what Michael Wittmann and the 3 other Tigers he was with thought just before one Firefly knocked out all 4 of them.
Wittman was killed by A2G rockets(a Typhy if i remember correctly)
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*shakes head*
God please not again.
*runs and hides*
Bronk
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Wittman was killed by A2G rockets(a Typhy if i remember correctly)
Thouroughly disproven. Lots on the subject. Too lazy to look up exact particulars, but IIRC the first person to posit that theory (an air corps guy, wouldn't you know) didn't even see Wittmann's tank until several months later, and made his statement essentially without any facts. But the air corp types liked it because it made them look good, and the Germans didn't want to make it known that their premier tank ace in their premier tank was killed by allied armor.