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Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Kev367th on July 12, 2006, 11:41:30 PM
Trying slightly different ways of doing things because of the relatively small size.

Need feedback on Port wing, whole frickin days work into it lol.
If OK will do rest of plane using same weahtering techique.
Chipping will be LAST.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: toadkill on July 12, 2006, 11:53:15 PM
damn kev, where you get time to do all this work, you'd think they pay you for this. i think its beautiful, the whole plane.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Guppy35 on July 13, 2006, 12:00:56 AM
I keep trying to find an over the top of a 17 photo and I keep coming back to this one from a well known set of photos showing the bombs from the above 17 taking off the tail of the lower.

Anyway, I think it gives a good look at the weathering and streaks on the top of a well worn B17.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Guppy35 on July 13, 2006, 12:04:13 AM
2nd view
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Wolf14 on July 13, 2006, 12:12:23 AM
did the plane survive?

I have seen some random footage of 17's with missing parts like that, just kinda wondering if that particular plane made it or not.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Target2 on July 13, 2006, 12:12:43 AM
Looks great Guppy
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Guppy35 on July 13, 2006, 12:27:22 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Wolf14
did the plane survive?

I have seen some random footage of 17's with missing parts like that, just kinda wondering if that particular plane made it or not.


One book says the crew bailed, another says no chutes seen.  

This one, "Nine Yanks and a Rebel" came home.  I've seen film of this one sliding across a formation damaged as it is here.

Didn't mean to hijack your thread Kev :)
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Kev367th on July 13, 2006, 03:12:27 AM
No probs Dan.

Update -

Upper wings/tailplanes/tail done.

Started fuselage
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Kev367th on July 13, 2006, 04:24:56 AM
Closer view -
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Major Biggles on July 13, 2006, 05:21:41 AM
oh, she's a beaut kev!

and guppy, how many planes got bombs dropped on them during the 8thAF campaign? seems like a pretty stupid thing to do, but probably quite frequent in 1000 plane formations:lol
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Fencer51 on July 13, 2006, 06:52:40 AM
Uh Kev, that's the same B-17 I am doing, I believe EP-E of the 100th BG is Our Gal Sal.

Did you call it and I missed it earlier?
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Kev367th on July 13, 2006, 08:11:57 AM
No probs I can swap to another one.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Kazaa on July 13, 2006, 08:21:47 AM
Bloody hell kev, thats what I call a bomber !
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Kev367th on July 13, 2006, 11:15:26 AM
OK did some looking though thread, this one's free.

"Nine O Nine"
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Guppy35 on July 13, 2006, 12:19:15 PM
Just a minor thing Kev, but it's a pet peeve of mine with the warbrid 17 owners :)

Note in the profile how the OD wrapes around the front of the engine cowl.  It isn't just a straight shot from the leading edge cut off for the OD/Gray.  Also note how the gray goes up to the tail wing.  Can't tell if your OD goes straight back underneath.  I don't know how the AH model works in terms of the engine cowlings so I don't know if it's possible to do that wrap around the front part.

The restored 17 painted as 909 makes that mistake with having the OD cut off on the cowling.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Bronk on July 13, 2006, 01:54:05 PM
/\ /\ /\


Picky bugger aint he.:D

Bronk
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Citabria on July 13, 2006, 05:21:31 PM
kev look at the exhaust patterns from the engine in that first pic and how they flow back over the wing and the spots behind the vents are not covered in oil and soot like the rest of the wing.

everyone gets that wrong hehe :)

its the opposite of what most think it should look like the oil dosnt come out of those vents it misses them entirely most of the time.

also note the exhaust is displaced to the left on each engine.

its all very visible in the first pic guppy posted
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Kev367th on July 13, 2006, 05:54:08 PM
OK

Found a wartime pic, anti icing boots had been removed.

Dan - Problem isn't putting the olive darb round the front of the nacelles, it's the curve. Will work on it but there's really, really bad stretching.

Cit - Pic look like there is staining benid those slots, will look at the staining again though.

Meanwhile -
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: moneyguy on July 13, 2006, 06:23:30 PM
i think it looks great  :aok
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Krusty on July 13, 2006, 08:39:02 PM
The exhaust stains look like two separate black streaks with nothing in between. Brings to mind inline engine exhaust streaks, more than it does radial. That's just one dissenting opinion, though.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Krusty on July 13, 2006, 08:41:38 PM
For Guppy (then no more hijacking, honest!)
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Guppy35 on July 13, 2006, 11:26:37 PM
Tried to blow up the picture, with part of the wing.  Nothing coming from the vents it appears.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Easyscor on July 14, 2006, 02:05:33 AM
Those vents allow the wing to breath and vent fuel vapor.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Target2 on July 14, 2006, 07:49:30 AM
Re: exhaust staining. If you look the exhaust stains tend to track inward towards the fuselage. To the left on the starboard wing and to the right on the port wing.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Kazaa on July 14, 2006, 01:09:14 PM
I love the mat look on this bomber, very nice !
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Krusty on July 14, 2006, 06:04:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Guppy35
Tried to blow up the picture, with part of the wing.  Nothing coming from the vents it appears.


That stain looks particularly nasty. I'm guessing some sort of liquid streaked out and soaked the top of the wing at some time. It looks more like a liquid stain than an exhaust stain.

Surely the vents do not "exhaust" from the manifold, but they do get dirty. If you look at the front of the wings you will see intakes. I don't know if they specifically cool the oil or other parts, but they cool something. And where you have cooling vents you have streaks, smears, dirty stains. Or, outright leaks! The photo doesn't have enough quality to show any stains there. It wouldn't have engine exhaust, but it would have some staining. On mine I tried to make it a different color of stain, but it got washed away in the engine exhaust. Go figure.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: MotleyCH on July 14, 2006, 06:36:52 PM
That looks great, Kev:aok

I can't wait to see this in game.

I'm working on a green B-17 also. Mine has a long way to go to look that good tho.:rolleyes:

Could you post your  materials list for this...I can't seem to get mine right.
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: Kev367th on July 14, 2006, 07:44:53 PM
I think I am using the default Spit V material file.

If not here's the list -

0.259,0.259,0.259,Ambient
0.659,0.659,0.659,Diffuse
0.000,0.000,0.000,Emissive
0.122,0.122,0.122,Specular
15.000,Power
Title: Feedback needed on B17
Post by: MotleyCH on July 14, 2006, 09:48:19 PM
Thanks a million:aok