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Title: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: Saintaw on July 13, 2006, 07:14:51 AM
Is it now possible to become a commercial pilot while being astigmat/hypermetrop ? I know it's not possible in the military, but i don't know if this changed in the commercial area.
Title: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: cpxxx on July 13, 2006, 09:01:33 AM
It is possible within limits. It does depend on the limits. As your are based in Europe, JAA limits apply. The FAA has a lower or really a different view (pun intended).

I suggest you have a look here:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=62

There is actually a thread on vision requirements. You can alway ask there. There is alway someone with an answer.
Title: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: Saintaw on July 13, 2006, 09:08:36 AM
Thanks a lot! (I'm too blind myself, it's for a friend's son)
Title: Re: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: Scatcat on July 13, 2006, 02:18:36 PM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Is it now possible to become a commercial pilot while being astigmat/hypermetrop ? I know it's not possible in the military, but i don't know if this changed in the commercial area.


How blind are you? Got your numbers?
Title: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: Maverick on July 13, 2006, 02:21:15 PM
You could also check with AOPA (Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association) as they keep tabs on the FAA regs and standards constantly. They also have staff physicians of multiple specialties for specific advice related to pilot certification issues.
Title: Re: Re: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: xrtoronto on July 13, 2006, 02:24:04 PM
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Originally posted by Scatcat
How blind are you? Got your numbers?


I'm +3.50 L/R:O
Title: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: Golfer on July 13, 2006, 02:29:45 PM
but can it be corrected to 20/40?
Title: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: Golfer on July 13, 2006, 02:31:53 PM
Right out of Part 67, medical standards for pilots.  The Third Class medical certificate is required to use your private pilot certificate:

Eye standards for a third-class airman medical certificate are:

(a) Distant visual acuity of 20/40 or better in each eye separately, with or without corrective lenses. If corrective lenses (spectacles or contact lenses) are necessary for 20/40 vision, the person may be eligible only on the condition that corrective lenses are worn while exercising the privileges of an airman certificate.

(b) Near vision of 20/40 or better, Snellen equivalent, at 16 inches in each eye separately, with or without corrective lenses.

(c) Ability to perceive those colors necessary for the safe performance of airman duties.

(d) No acute or chronic pathological condition of either eye or adnexa that interferes with the proper function of an eye, that may reasonably be expected to progress to that degree, or that may reasonably be expected to be aggravated by flying.


Commercial pilots require a second class medical...20/20 distant with or without corrective lenses.  20/40 near.

ATPs require the same as commercial pilots.
Title: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: cpxxx on July 13, 2006, 03:28:47 PM
Here is the link for the JAR medical requirements. This is the CAA website but  it applies to all JAA countries in Europe. It's tougher than the FAA on many counts. It also doesn't allow any colour blindness.

There is apparently to be a relaxing of some of the requirements in the future although not colour vision.

To be a Commercial pilot under the JAA you need a JAA class 1 certificate. Nothing else will do.

http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?categoryid=49&pagetype=68&groupid=211
Title: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: Estes on July 13, 2006, 04:25:32 PM
Apparently, even without my contacts or glasses I could still possibly be a pilot.

I'm 20/40 without corrective lenses.
Title: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: Golfer on July 13, 2006, 04:40:10 PM
yup.  you don't need eagle eye vision.  Just okay vision to be a private pilot.  All FAA medicals have "corrected to" requirements...most people can meet those with glasses or LASIK surgery.
Title: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: DieAz on July 14, 2006, 08:49:46 AM
20/40 in each eye... hmmmm what if you only had one eye?  just curious. no depth perception, would that prevent someone from getting a third-class airman certificate ?
Title: Piloting / eyesight question
Post by: Maverick on July 14, 2006, 02:17:06 PM
Nope there are single eyed pilots. I know one and flew with him a few years back.