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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: weaselsan on July 13, 2006, 02:05:12 PM
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http://www.lcsun-news.com/news/ci_4044160 (http://www.lcsun-news.com/news/ci_4044160)
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THAAD fast facts
The Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system includes four main components:
Launcher: Highly mobile, able to store, transport and fire interceptors.
Interceptors: Designed to intercept its target both in and out of the atmosphere using hit-to-kill lethality.
Radar: Largest mobile X-band in with world. It provides search, track, discrimination and fire control updates to the interceptor.
Fire Control: Communication and data-management backbone, links THAAD components together and to external units as well as the entire Ballistic Missile Defense System.
Very cool. However, I would feel a lot better if they had chose something more challenging than a SCUD for the target.
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I wonder if it can be ship mounted and then said ship parked off the coast of N Korea.........
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Originally posted by rpm
Very cool. However, I would feel a lot better if they had chose something more challenging than a SCUD for the target.
Gotta crawl before you can walk....with the missile threats from N. Korea, (6 scuds and a dud) it may allow for a more rapid development process. Hopefully within a few years the capability to intercept and destroy incoming ICBM's. The question then would be, should we share the technology with other nations (ie: Japan S. Korea).
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I know of a couple of components that performed well :)
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Originally posted by weaselsan
Gotta crawl before you can walk....with the missile threats from N. Korea, (6 scuds and a dud) it may allow for a more rapid development process. Hopefully within a few years the capability to intercept and destroy incoming ICBM's. The question then would be, should we share the technology with other nations (ie: Japan S. Korea).
We already did. Japan helped us develop the technology.
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An ex-co-worker's husband, Bill Hendricks, was the Head Engineer & Director of the THAAD program. Unfortunately he passed away last year. However, I know his wife is very proud of the work that he accomplished on this program. I'm happy we have this technology...but I think the money would have been better spent on pudding-pops for the homeless.
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The test demonstrated the THAAD's ability to "completely destroy that warhead so that no chemical or nuclear residue would contaminate areas" below the explosion, Driessnack said.
So the Bouche administration has found a way to ignore the laws of physics, too?
Anyone ever heard of "conservation of mass and energy"?
Maybe we should be buying scuds. Load them up with all our nucular wastes and shoot them down with this magic flying wormhole.
This is why there should be an IQ test for voters. People actually believe this crud.
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Originally posted by zorch
So the Bouche administration has found a way to ignore the laws of physics, too?
Anyone ever heard of "conservation of mass and energy"?
Maybe we should be buying scuds. Load them up with all our nucular wastes and shoot them down with this magic flying wormhole.
This is why there should be an IQ test for voters. People actually believe this crud.
yea a news article vrs a troller with 8 posts......hmmmm tough choice I'll have to get back to you on that.
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I dunno, i think he has a point. Where is all of it going to go? Candyland? I don't think nuculear particles are just going to float off like butterflies.
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Originally posted by Makarov9
An ex-co-worker's husband, Bill Hendricks, was the Head Engineer & Director of the THAAD program. Unfortunately he passed away last year. However, I know his wife is very proud of the work that he accomplished on this program. I'm happy we have this technology...but I think the money would have been better spent on pudding-pops for the homeless.
Pudding pops are high in fat and calories, you would be acused of a hate crime against the homeless.
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Originally posted by nirvana
I dunno, i think he has a point. Where is all of it going to go? Candyland? I don't think nuculear particles are just going to float off like butterflies.
You would prefer maybe a nuclear explosion?
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
We already did. Japan helped us develop the technology.
The THAAD missile system was designed by Lockheed Martin, and several company employees and system designers were on hand to witness the test.
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LOL; I may be the only one that believes this.
When all this N.Korea missle test stuff started & I heard the proponent & opponent talking heads saying if we shoot at it & miss we'll look like fools & if we hit it it's an act of war!
I told my wife; "Just wait & see what happens, all these people who are blabbing about patriot missles don't have a clue. That missle will lift off, get over the launchpad high enough for it to be seen from a couple hundred miles over the horizon & THIS (http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/) will be orbiting queitly nearby, no anti-missle missle launches, no big huhbub. If they hit it, it'll go down as a dud & if they miss, no one will even know they shot at it."
I love being smarter than everyone else (jk):D
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Originally posted by Brenjen
LOL; I may be the only one that believes this.
When all this N.Korea missle test stuff started & I heard the proponent & opponent talking heads saying if we shoot at it & miss we'll look like fools & if we hit it it's an act of war!
I told my wife; "Just wait & see what happens, all these people who are blabbing about patriot missles don't have a clue. That missle will lift off, get over the launchpad high enough for it to be seen from a couple hundred miles over the horizon & THIS (http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/) will be orbiting queitly nearby, no anti-missle missle launches, no big huhbub. If they hit it, it'll go down as a dud & if they miss, no one will even know they shot at it."
I love being smarter than everyone else (jk):D
I've actually seen this up close and person and in fact saw it take "first flight" Too bad they have yet to integrate any of the laser components into the air frame yet.....this was as of about 6 months ago.
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yea a news article vrs a troller with 8 posts......hmmmm tough choice I'll have to get back to you on that.
Hmm, some guy with 8604 posts to a BBS or the father of modern chemistry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass).
Relax, the second ammendment will prevent any IQ test for potential voters.
You would prefer maybe a nuclear explosion?
Maybe, yeah. A hit with a nuke will kill a lot of people, destroy a lot of property, and scatter a lot of radioactive dust. A nuke that detonates up a few thousand feet higher will kill fewer people, and spread much less radioactive dust. A nuke going off above the atmosphere would generate an EMP, and since it'd most likely be a nuke in the kiloton range, a small one at that.
A nuke destroyed (not detonated) in the atmosphere or above the atmosphere will rain isotopes on a fairly large area. Not just radioactive isotopes, but also highly poisonous ones. This may actually be worse than detonating it.
airborne laser (http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/)
That's the best option. Blow the damn thing up over their soil.
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Originally posted by weaselsan
You would prefer maybe a nuclear explosion?
What goes up, has to come down as they say. Nuclear explosion or aerial explosion. Stop 'em before they can even launch the missile, that's the key. Which is what we are trying to do now, yes?
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As long as we have Jack Bauer, I`m not concerned.
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Originally posted by weaselsan
The THAAD missile system was designed by Lockheed Martin, and several company employees and system designers were on hand to witness the test.
Sorry. Assumed it was more tests or tests of upgrades to this system
http://starbulletin.com/2006/06/21/news/story07.html
This system is already in limited use, and the navy is upgrading in several areas to bring more online. We also installed some in Japan.
I saw the system you linked to was using X band radar and assumed it was related. My fault for assuming.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I've actually seen this up close and person and in fact saw it take "first flight" Too bad they have yet to integrate any of the laser components into the air frame yet.....this was as of about 6 months ago.
If they get the laser components into the airframe you saw, that would give them at least three operational, because I know they have at least two already. It was no state secret, they openly said they were sending two prototypes into the middle east to protect Israel from scuds when we went into Iraq the second time.
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Originally posted by weaselsan
Pudding pops are high in fat and calories, you would be acused of a hate crime against the homeless.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Brenjen
If they get the laser components into the airframe you saw, that would give them at least three operational, because I know they have at least two already. It was no state secret, they openly said they were sending two prototypes into the middle east to protect Israel from scuds when we went into Iraq the second time.
WOW,
I thought tail number 0001 was the only one. I could be wrong but I don't think there's any more than the prototype. Either way it is a cool concept.
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Originally posted by zorch
Hmm, some guy with 8604 posts to a BBS or the father of modern chemistry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass).
Relax, the second ammendment will prevent any IQ test for potential voters.
Maybe, yeah. A hit with a nuke will kill a lot of people, destroy a lot of property, and scatter a lot of radioactive dust. A nuke that detonates up a few thousand feet higher will kill fewer people, and spread much less radioactive dust. A nuke going off above the atmosphere would generate an EMP, and since it'd most likely be a nuke in the kiloton range, a small one at that.
A nuke destroyed (not detonated) in the atmosphere or above the atmosphere will rain isotopes on a fairly large area. Not just radioactive isotopes, but also highly poisonous ones. This may actually be worse than detonating it.
That's the best option. Blow the damn thing up over their soil.
Nukes do not detonate on Impact....there's a VERY SPECIFIC sequence of events that must take place prior to deonation. Perhaps you wicki link failed to explain this. And just so you know most nerve agents can be burned up.
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Guns,
He does have a point regarding fallout form the warhead even if there is no nuclear explosion. Blowing up the rocket in flight, going either direction, will be about the same as blowing up a "dirty bomb" wherever the explosion happens. Better to blow it up over their ground than towards the impact zone.
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The fallout from an intercepted nuclear missle wouldn't be too bad. The U.S. did some airbursting of hydrogen bombs in the 50s. Those didnt kill anybody.
In fact, theres really only a few places on Earth where radiation from nuclear weapons is too severe to habitate.
So yeah, the radiation might be bad. But I'm more worried about the million degree heat wave.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Guns,
He does have a point regarding fallout form the warhead even if there is no nuclear explosion. Blowing up the rocket in flight, going either direction, will be about the same as blowing up a "dirty bomb" wherever the explosion happens. Better to blow it up over their ground than towards the impact zone.
Not if it hit downtown LA or Tokyo.
This would have to be a commander on the ground's call. Yes you might have widespread contamination but ask yourself how many would die from that vrs a direct hit on a major metropolitan area like LA or Seatle. I am assuming of course that the warhead would be hit a good distance away from the target. Besides I've heard time and time again from Bush haters that a dirty bomb is just fear mongering and it wouldn't really hurt the population to badly......
Another thing is he doesn't know too much about CHem Warfare. While the dust cloud left over, if not vaporized, would linger and might find its way into a populated area chances are it would not have the concentration to be a major threat when it finally gets there. Chem warheads need to be focused and concentrated to work properly. This isnt 24 where one VX missle is going to knock out an entire city, the stuff needs a spread shot to be effective. I should know I've taught NBC training the last 5 years.
trolls like him can't have it both ways. He starts off in a thread about an exciting new technology that could save millions of lives some day and the first things out of his halitosis hole are "So the Bouche administration"....... like this is some big Bush conspiracy.
We've been working on this for over a decade trying to perfect it for one reason and that is to protect a nation. If a rogue nuke hit LA everyone would wonder WHY we havn't been putting more money and energy into these projects.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
We've been working on this for over a decade trying to perfect it for one reason and that is to protect a nation. If a rogue nuke hit LA everyone would wonder WHY we havn't been putting more money and energy into these projects.
They'd whine if there was too much money put into for "no visible reason" and they'd whine if there wasn't enough put into it. Pick the lesser of the 2 evils and go forit.
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I woundn't so much worry about North Korea as I would about Iran.
If anyone here has ever did time in the Military in Korea you know.
America is not Stupid.
Kim, Jong Il is seeking attention...happens 3 times a year.
Mac