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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Shuckins on July 14, 2006, 03:42:27 PM
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...and facing 70 years in prison.
One of the former "lads" at the juvenile unit where I work committed a murder last December. We received word a few days ago that he had been sentenced to 70 years in prison for the crime.
The sentence wasn't unexpected but was a bit stunning nonetheless.
Not allowing for the possibility of parole, that comes to 840 months...or 25,550 days behind bars.
He still has down on his cheeks.
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So that means that he will spend the rest of his life in prison. Able to kill and do what he pleases for the next 70 years.
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That is sad...so sad.
Hope he survives until he can feel the brezze blow across his face and feel the grass beneath his feet. Free.
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
That is sad...so sad.
Hope he survives until he can feel the brezze blow across his face and feel the grass beneath his feet. Free.
Mac
Why? The person he murdered never will again.
The parents of that murdered person will never enjoy his company at a holiday dinner, nor be able to look to him for help in their old age.
Let him rot until death overtakes him, then let him answer to the Almighty.
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hear hear
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How old was the victim? The convict should serve as long as the victim remains dead. He robbed the other person of their life through unlawful murder, why should he maintain his own in freedom?
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Being that the victim is no longer able to live, I don't really think he should be able to live. That and it saves tax dollars.
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His victim was 76...killed in an attempted robbery.
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Picking on the weak. Say good night gracie and turn out the cell light. No pity for the convict here.
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Hope he gets beat up and made a girlfriend in prison everyday.
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Originally posted by Dago
Let him rot until death overtakes him, then let him answer to the Almighty.
Seeing who he picked for a victim... mayhap we oughta speed him along to that meeting.
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Cripes, what is it with this "awww, I feel bad for the murderer" crap nowadays?
Shuckins, your associate is a murderer. He didnt give his victim the second thoughts you're giving this waste.
Feel bad for the victim.
Whatta dumb post.
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LePaul,
I didn't get the impression he was feeling sorry for the convict, just that he was so young to be so stupid. I could be wrong.
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Aye, my step brother was 16 when he was put in a juvenile detention center for stealing cars, he's 23 or 24 now, still in prison facing parole this October. So young, so dumb. Unlike me *cough cough*:p
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Originally posted by nirvana
Unlike me *cough cough*:p
You go to Doc's yet? :p
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Originally posted by Maverick
LePaul,
I didn't get the impression he was feeling sorry for the convict, just that he was so young to be so stupid. I could be wrong.
yeah, he was stupid, but age is not a factor as far as I am concerned, I know for certain that when I was 17 I knew that murder was wrong, and I didnt doubt that if I commited a murder, I would at minimum have a very good chance of spending the rest of my life in prison. I am sure the killer here knew that fact when he killed his victim.
As yee sow, so shall yee reap.
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Originally posted by Maverick
LePaul,
I didn't get the impression he was feeling sorry for the convict, just that he was so young to be so stupid. I could be wrong.
If that's so, I recant my comment. Hard to "read" into text sometimes.
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Was it an "incident" or a cold blooded murder?
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If you are robbing someone and kill em..... it is murder.
It is a shame that someone so young went so wrong but... young people.... good young people die all the time to bad decisons. It is part of youth.
I feel a lot more sorry for a kid who loses control of a motorcycle and kills himself than for the kid who beats the elderly to death in order to steal from them.
The victim will be forgotten soon... the kid who dies on the freeway or battlefield will be forgotten soon... this kid will be in prison breathing up the planets air. He will be made into a sympathetic figure and be out in a couple of decades.... still a young man and able to wreak more havoc on the rest of us or.... to enjoy a long life... he will have choices that his victim did not.
It would be better for all of us if he were to simply be executed.
lazs
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And if it was your son, being drunk and stupid, and knocking somebody dead in a single swing?
I have not very much mercy towards rotten murderers and child molestors.
I'd have shot Charles Manson for instance.
But lots of murder convicts are young and stupid, and the incident happens in a moment of frenzy and such.
And, as well, he can make license plates as well as breathing can't he ;)
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Originally posted by Angus
But lots of murder convicts are young and stupid, and the incident happens in a moment of frenzy and such.
i'm sorry judge, i'm just young and stupid.
well son, if thats the case i'm going to release you, just be more careful the next time you rob old people, they die easy. Oh and make sure they are not armed or they will kill you. Old people just don't understand "young and stupid".
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Assuming a life span of 75 years it costs roughly $805,000.00 to keep someone in prison for life.
A 7.62 mm bullet on average is about .32 cents.
Basic math for someone who murdered another to me.
:mad:
And being drunk and stupid is no excuse. If you're 17 years old and don't know that it's wrong to rob someone...let alone attack a 76 year old person..then the gene pool needs a little chlorine anyway.
Did I do stupid stuff when I was younger? Sure..I still do. But if I do and I get caught then I reap what I sow. Besides...when I was a teenager I was always afraid that if I did anything REALLY stupid my parents would have kicked my ass...where were HIS parents and morals when this was happening?
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My son is 6'2 and 260 lbs and can bench press 350 lbs in ten rep groups... he is quite capable of killing someone with one blow.
He is not capable of robbing a 76 year old and then killing him when he resists or trys to get away.
If he killed someone in a barroom fight then it would have to be determined if it were a mutal thing or not... a fight rather than a cold blooded intent to kill.
Manslaughter is not murder here. In most cases in the U.S. a murder charge is reduced to manslauter or murder 2 even in some of the worst cases.
In the situation you describe.... I can't imagine a murder charge being filed.
So far as I know... My son, unlike me, has only hit one human being in anger... the guy attacked him over a traffic accident and called him all kinds of vile racial crap before he started swinging. My son broke the mans jaw and gave him a concussion with one swing of the fist.
Since the attacker was a colored man... there was an investigation. All witnesses gleefuly took my sons side and the colored guy recovered from his temporary paralysis allmost the second the case was dropped. He is fully recovered.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
My son is 6'2 and 260 lbs and can bench press 350 lbs in ten rep groups...
lazs
That's not your son....thats a horse in disguise.
What do you feed something like that? Other than anything he wants. :p
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Originally posted by lazs2
Since the attacker was a colored man... there was an investigation. All witnesses gleefuly took my sons side and the colored guy recovered from his temporary paralysis allmost the second the case was dropped. He is fully recovered.
lazs
I am glad to hear the colored guy recovered.:lol
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Hey there:
" well son, if thats the case i'm going to release you, just be more careful the next time you rob old people, they die easy. Oh and make sure they are not armed or they will kill you. Old people just don't understand "young and stupid"."
Understand that there is a long way between release and death penalty.
And Lazs:
"He is not capable of robbing a 76 year old and then killing him when he resists or trys to get away."
Never say never. And every boy is somebody's son.
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Originally posted by Dago
Why? The person he murdered never will again.
The parents of that murdered person will never enjoy his company at a holiday dinner, nor be able to look to him for help in their old age.
Let him rot until death overtakes him, then let him answer to the Almighty.
I. Agree. With. Dago.
:O
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Give him the chair.... it would save a lot of money!
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He could also plant trees and take care of sprouts to balance...the living
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just some info and opinions here...
1. I hope he rots in prison. For me death would be preferable to spending my life in a cell like a caged animal. I can only imagine a few things worse than life in prison.
2. Sadly, it costs more money to execute someone than it does to provide for a life sentence. It's not like the good ol' days where justice was served quickly once a sentence was handed down. Like someone said upthread, a bullet only costs a little.
3. Arm yourself. I'm not even going to qoute statistics here. We live in a DANGEROUS world. Be prepared to defend you and yours. My grandfather has carried a gun his entire life. He said in 75 years he has only had to "draw" his weapon 1 time and it saved his life.
Live free or DIE,
-JoLLY
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Sounds like a fair sentence.
Life without parole would be wrong for a 17 year old. How many of us are the same person we were at 17?
No one 25 or under need reply.
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17 is a kid. 17 years olds do stupid things all the time.
With 17 years invested, yet not more, there is enough lifetime to do remedy.
A 17 years old normally does not have something really coldly planned.
Of course there are exceptions...Like Columbine. Uhm, what was done to those kids?
(That case, I'd vote for a firing squad)
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Originally posted by Angus
Of course there are exceptions...Like Columbine. Uhm, what was done to those kids?
(That case, I'd vote for a firing squad)
They did themselves at the end.
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I'm glad we have so many psychologists here.
A persons personality usually gets cemented around 17-18 years old. This kid is displaying criminal, anti-social behavior. For the sake of the rest of society, this kid needs to be locked away. Maybe it would be possible to rehabilitate him. But those resources aren't going to be applied to him now.
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Rehabilitation could go hand in hand with hard labour ;)
Anyway, I don't belive in such walking free, just to make it clear.