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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nash on July 15, 2006, 09:35:10 PM
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I have no idea if this qualifies as being racist or not, but it's Saturday night and scew it I'm going for it!
The unspoken rule in boxing is that ya never bet against the black guy.
Heh.... this is akward.
Why don't ya see any blacks in the UFC? I mean, there's that one guy from Canada.... the Crow or something.... but other than that.... nothing.
Is it something about the fighting style?
I don't get it.
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Me neither, but don't sweat it Nash, pointing out something that is obvious, like blacks dominating boxing, isn't racist. Just the way it is in that sport.
As for UFC, I have no idea. Ask JohnnyRA, he's into that stuff.
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I was watching a highlight reel on the UFC on TV the other night. I was sort of half-assed keeping tally of how the races were doing by themselves.
Blacks were splitting it even with being beaten to beating someone else.
Whites were doing the same.
Though ironically, asians were getting the **** kicked out of them as a whole.
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Blacks are too busy dominating every other sport.
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The poor have always dominated sports...professional and otherwise.
The children of successful classes spend their time in front of computer monitors, playing electronic games.
In addition, blacks are driven to excel at sports. They would be tremendous athletes in any case...but they also have something to prove.
And say what you will about the political incorrectness of this next statement, there is the distinct possibility that it is true. The institution of slavery weeds out the weaklings. To begin with, slave buyers or traders would selectively buy only the stronges slaves available in the west African markets. From the deadly trip across the Atlantic on a crowded slave ship to the terrible physical grind of day-to-day drudgery, slaves lived an existence that cleaned up the gene pool.
Mankind is part of the natural world gentlemen. The fact that dogs and horses can be bred for selective traits, such as size, speed, and intelligence...raises the question of "then why not man?"
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There are alot of blacks in pride fighting, which is japanese version of UFC. It pays much better. I think the light heavy champ is black. "Rampage" Jackson.
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Does it really even matter what the color of a mans skin is when he's getting his butt kicked on tv?
Or any other time?
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Blacks are too busy dominating every other sport.
And this is why I don't watch Hockey anymore!!!!
:huh
Mac
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I wanna see Bob Sapp in the UFC.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1137109117_20029211530-0-swoop.gif)
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Originally posted by Shuckins
And say what you will about the political incorrectness of this next statement, there is the distinct possibility that it is true. The institution of slavery weeds out the weaklings. To begin with, slave buyers or traders would selectively buy only the stronges slaves available in the west African markets. From the deadly trip across the Atlantic on a crowded slave ship to the terrible physical grind of day-to-day drudgery, slaves lived an existence that cleaned up the gene pool.
Mankind is part of the natural world gentlemen. The fact that dogs and horses can be bred for selective traits, such as size, speed, and intelligence...raises the question of "then why not man?"
Shuckins...you have some very valid points.
There is an island near Dominica where slaves traders set up a breeding center. They bred big strapping lads and shipped them over to work on the various plantations in the Caribbean and Americas.
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Originally posted by Swoop
I wanna see Bob Sapp in the UFC.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1137109117_20029211530-0-swoop.gif)
wow, that dude is a monster. However, he gets gassed real easy. I saw a brazilian guy, nuegero or something like that, submit him with a kumera. (fancy word for 'bend the sht out of ones arm'). Would love to see Neugero fight wanderleigh silva. Classic striker vs submission master.
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Originally posted by dmf
Does it really even matter what the color of a mans skin is when he's getting his butt kicked on tv?
Or any other time?
It would only matter if a certain race were excluded from these events or forced to particiapate simply based on the color of thier skin, aside from that, it isnt racism to express curiosity, if thats what you were implying.
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sounds like a Jimmy the Greek question :)
ufc is not boxing
you do not see many black wrestlers in college either
what's the percentage of them in the martial arts fighting world?
I think Funked has it right though, give them time ...
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Originally posted by Nash
I have no idea if this qualifies as being racist or not, but it's Saturday night and scew it I'm going for it!
The unspoken rule in boxing is that ya never bet against the black guy.
Heh.... this is akward.
Why don't ya see any blacks in the UFC? I mean, there's that one guy from Canada.... the Crow or something.... but other than that.... nothing.
Is it something about the fighting style?
I don't get it.
There's plenty of blacks in the UFC. They just aren't (playing on liberal phraseology) 'overly represented'. However, the UFC doesn't pay as much as other combat sports, in particular boxing for example.
Then there's the limited popularity of the sport in general. Right now in the UFC there's a huge 'performance gap' between those on the top and those who would be described as 'average'. In fact the past few UFC XX's have been poor because it seems they are have trouble putting together a decent 'card'. The UFC series, with the exception of the first season (maybe because it was new), has been horrible for the most part. Comparing that with something like the Contender it is sometimes too amateurish to even watch. Granted the Contender with its edited fights and artistic 'dressing up' was designed to keep the viewers attention unlike the the UFC show where WYSIWYG.
FYI, Contender II should be out soon on ESPN.
Back to the 'lack of blacks'... Lack of exposure to MMA or the various disciplines is limited as well. As opposed to boxing where gym's are all over, at least in urban areas.
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A friend of mine who watches UFC religiously told me the other day that a disproportionate number of UFC fighters come from the Portland,OR area.
If this is true, that might explain it, as Oregon is a very very white state. There seems to be 'Bleach in the water' is something I've heard.
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I'm sorry gents but I just can't resist. If Rush Limbaugh made these statements he'd be reguarded as a racisit (remember his short tenure as a sports comentator?) but if a liberal like Nash makes them it's all incitfull and such. Thus one more example of how your political leanings gives you a pass at NON-pc statements.
Political comments aside my incite is that UFC is kind of a close nit family of fighters. IMHO you have to know somone to get into the frey. It could just be that the sport is just too new that some ethnic groups havn't filtered into it.
That being said (and the following might not be true just and observation) with boxing alot of boxers in the professional arena filter their way up from the amature and local scene IE a guy going to a local gym downtown and fighting at the friday night fights....gets noticed and gets a ticket. This allows for greater opertunity for anyone who goes to the gym and trains where as UFC fighters usually come from a little more exclusive fighting clubs.
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Not in the same league.
Rush Limbaugh said, ""I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there's a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."
Nash asks:
"Why don't ya see any blacks in the UFC? I mean, there's that one guy from Canada.... the Crow or something.... but other than that.... nothing.
Is it something about the fighting style?
I don't get it."
Have a listen to what Frank Deford has to say. It's more along the lines of what Nash was asking rather than what Limbaugh accused.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5551009
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Originally posted by Sandman
Not in the same league.
Rush Limbaugh said, ""I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there's a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."
Nash asks:
"Why don't ya see any blacks in the UFC? I mean, there's that one guy from Canada.... the Crow or something.... but other than that.... nothing.
Is it something about the fighting style?
I don't get it."
Have a listen to what Frank Deford has to say. It's more along the lines of what Nash was asking rather than what Limbaugh accused.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5551009
I think you are playing with semantics here. If it had been anyone in here with a "right thinking" mind then libs would be lined up to play the race card.
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dumb thread.
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The rule of thumb is: a white guy can't say it, even if it IS obvious- the averge black guy is a heap better athlete then the average white guy. (Fortunately we still have hockey, stock-car racing, and ESPN poker to call our own:lol
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I think you are playing with semantics here.
The devil is in the detail. ;)
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
It would only matter if a certain race were excluded from these events or forced to particiapate simply based on the color of thier skin, aside from that, it isnt racism to express curiosity, if thats what you were implying.
I'm not trying to imply anything, I just don't understand why color has be be a factor in everything we do in this country.