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Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Gunslinger on July 16, 2006, 09:52:06 AM
OK so my pool has been giving me headaches lately.  Here's the problem.  I put clarifyer stuff in it to make the cloudy stuff clump up and fall to the bottom.  Then I put my "aquacritter" in there to vacume the stuff up.  

I noticed that while vacuming the pool gets VERY green and ends up looking worse than before and even more that after a while the return line will start putting green water in the pool.  I'm assuming that this indicates my sand filter needs a backwash (new sand BTW and it was a PITA to replace)

This is a never ending cycle with this pool it seems and I'm having to do this 2 or 3 times a week and it's getting to be a major chore with my hours, WHAT CAN I DO?

Some Preliminary info:

1.  THe PH is dead on at 7.5 and the FAC is usually right around 2
2.  It is an above ground with a vinal liner

Another thing I've noticed is that I have these fiberglass sinkable stairs.  Thy are hollow so it looks like they are an algee breeding ground behind and underneith them.  Would it ease some of my headachs to get rid of these and replace with a conventional ladder as it seems that these stairs add alot of green crap to the pool?  I've taken them out and cleaned them several times but again it doesn't seem like a feasable thing to do?

TIA for the help.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Sandman on July 16, 2006, 10:06:33 AM
You need algaecide.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Gunslinger on July 16, 2006, 10:24:52 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
You need algaecide.


Algaecide completly slipped my mind.  Gonna go pick sum up at satanmart when I fill up the LP tank.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Curval on July 16, 2006, 11:38:25 AM
Forgive me Guns, but I must thank you and ask that you continue to post problems with your pool.

It just makes me feel a whole lot better about not having one myself. (It being really really hot and humid outside right now).

Carry on.

:aok
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Sandman on July 16, 2006, 11:50:55 AM
In an effort to push you right over the top...

It's 0945 AM.

Humidity is 7%.

Temperature on the patio:

(http://www.dotdoubledot.com/img/stuff/2006_07160003.JPG)

Pool:

(http://www.dotdoubledot.com/img/stuff/2006_07160004.JPG)

:D

It's going to get hot today... weather channel is predicting 113F.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Bronk on July 16, 2006, 11:57:44 AM
*kicks Sandy in the shin*

Bastage , it's humid as hell here and about 90.






Bronk
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: rpm on July 16, 2006, 11:58:20 AM
Guns, is this the same water that was in it when you moved in? If so, you need to be careful about chemical saturation. I forget the PPM (parts per million) level you need to be below, but a good test kit or EC (electrical conductivity) meter will tell you. If you break that level your chemicals will lose effectiveness and you will have to change the water.

BTW, when it comes time to refill, a large magnet placed directly on top of your water meter will stop your meter from turning. Just make sure you remove it after you're finished. The city seems to dislike this practice. ;)
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Sandman on July 16, 2006, 11:58:48 AM
Did I mention that the water is 87-degrees?
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Golfer on July 16, 2006, 12:05:18 PM
Nice pool sandy.  I'll be stopping by later with my banana hammock and rubber duckie for a dip.  Hope ya don't mind!
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Sandman on July 16, 2006, 12:08:22 PM
Just don't pee in it. ;)
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: BlueJ1 on July 16, 2006, 12:08:31 PM
We have a solar heater on top of our garage that is connected to the filter and it gets pumped through the heater and into the pool. The solar heater itself is made of thousands of tiny black tubes. Right now its 93-degrees. Highest we had it was 98. Its to hot.Once you get in it feels like your swiming in air. Sorta strange.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Bronk on July 16, 2006, 12:10:10 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Did I mention that the water is 87-degrees?



Bastage  :D



Bronk
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: xrtoronto on July 16, 2006, 12:17:53 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Just don't pee in it. ;)


I remember someone saying that if you add a certain substance to water and someone pees in it, a big purple cloud forms around where they peed. I don't know if that is true but sounds like it could be fun?:D
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Sandman on July 16, 2006, 12:26:05 PM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
I remember someone saying that if you add a certain substance to water and someone pees in it, a big purple cloud forms around where they peed. I don't know if that is true but sounds like it could be fun?:D


Snopes is your friend. (http://www.snopes.com/science/poolpiss.htm)
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: BlueJ1 on July 16, 2006, 12:26:14 PM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
I remember someone saying that if you add a certain substance to water and someone pees in it, a big purple cloud forms around where they peed. I don't know if that is true but sounds like it could be fun?:D


Babyruths work better.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: rpm on July 16, 2006, 12:27:42 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Just don't pee in it. ;)
(http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/caddyshack_doody.jpg)
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: xrtoronto on July 16, 2006, 12:30:18 PM
LOL @ rpm
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Gunslinger on July 16, 2006, 12:35:24 PM
I'm going to replace the liner soon as I have grass growing through it in certain parts.  The ground underneith needs to be sprayed again with herbacide and then have the ground covering replaced as well.  This is the old water and who knows how long it's been in the pool.  I get it crystal freakin clear one day and then work d 18 hour shifts in a row and come home to a green filthy pool.  

I was just out there earlier replacing the teflon tape around all the filter/pump components and regooping them as well.  I had a few small leaks that I've been wanting to fix and today I finally had the time.  So far this summer the pool has cost me roughly $1100 for all the crap that I've had to buy plus water replacment and electric bill for the pump.  (its got a few leaks and evaporates like mad)

On a plus note the "Aqua Critter" by hayward has been a wonder.  It cleans the bottom by itself and I don't have to vacume the stupid pool every other day.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Sandman on July 16, 2006, 12:43:15 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I'm going to replace the liner soon as I have grass growing through it in certain parts.  


Gawdamned bermuda grass will go right through vinyl. :mad:
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Gunslinger on July 16, 2006, 01:35:09 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Gawdamned bermuda grass will go right through vinyl. :mad:


Yup that crap grows through just about anything!  I made a flower bed and it's growing through that stuff even after I double lined it.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Maverick on July 16, 2006, 03:50:20 PM
HEHEHEHE it's been over 105 steadily here. There is also a pool, maintained by the base, less that 150 yards away from me. I don't have to do maintainenance on anything to use it.  :D
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 16, 2006, 06:22:51 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
Guns, is this the same water that was in it when you moved in? If so, you need to be careful about chemical saturation. I forget the PPM (parts per million) level you need to be below, but a good test kit or EC (electrical conductivity) meter will tell you. If you break that level your chemicals will lose effectiveness and you will have to change the water.

BTW, when it comes time to refill, a large magnet placed directly on top of your water meter will stop your meter from turning. Just make sure you remove it after you're finished. The city seems to dislike this practice. ;)


That's friggin hilarious.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: midnight Target on July 16, 2006, 07:04:40 PM
108 here yesterday and today... AC just broke... I think I'll pack the wife in ice until I get it fixed... That should cut down on the noise.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: BigGun on July 17, 2006, 10:17:06 AM
my pool been running right around 90/91...was originally gonna put solar on & decided to see how it did without solar...glad I saved that $6k. Keeping chemicals balanced is not too difficult if you don't let it get out of wack. Maintaining isn't too hard, takes maybe combined 30 minutes a week. Also, saltwater chlorinator is only way to go.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Curval on July 17, 2006, 10:40:02 AM
Nice pool Sandman.

Yesterday we went over to my father's place for a swim in his pool, which is a nice resource given we don't have our own.  The two things that have prevented me from putting one is are:

1.  Cost (you wouldn't believe it even if I mentioned how much we have been quoted)

2.  Our kids.

On point 2. there have been a number of horror stories in the past few years of kids drowning in pools...I'm sure it is the same up there.

Anyway...last night we were given a great example of why we may have been very smart relating to this and why I will not put a pool in until my kids are much older.

My daughter Casey decided (without her arm bands) to try and use one of her brother's "boogie boards" (like a small body surf board).  She pushed off from the steps and promptly fell off.  She sank like a stone to the bottom...of the shallow end (she's only 2).  Her two brothers watched it happen and didn't even react....but to be fair they would not have had time to do so anyway because my wife FLEW out of her chair and reached into the pool and grabbed her.  She pulled our 45lbs child out of the pool with one hand....straight up and out of the pool.

Casey was pretty scared and so after a few minutes I took her over, put her into a floatation device and took her back into the pool with me...all the time explaining why she must never go into the pool without armbands or the ring she was wearing....and NEVER EVER without Mummy or Daddy there.

It was a "fall off the horse and get back on" kind of thing...but with a lesson to be learned as well.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: BigGun on July 17, 2006, 04:52:52 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
Nice pool Sandman.

Yesterday we went over to my father's place for a swim in his pool, which is a nice resource given we don't have our own.  The two things that have prevented me from putting one is are:

1.  Cost (you wouldn't believe it even if I mentioned how much we have been quoted)

2.  Our kids.

On point 2. there have been a number of horror stories in the past few years of kids drowning in pools...I'm sure it is the same up there.

Anyway...last night we were given a great example of why we may have been very smart relating to this and why I will not put a pool in until my kids are much older.

My daughter Casey decided (without her arm bands) to try and use one of her brother's "boogie boards" (like a small body surf board).  She pushed off from the steps and promptly fell off.  She sank like a stone to the bottom...of the shallow end (she's only 2).  Her two brothers watched it happen and didn't even react....but to be fair they would not have had time to do so anyway because my wife FLEW out of her chair and reached into the pool and grabbed her.  She pulled our 45lbs child out of the pool with one hand....straight up and out of the pool.

Casey was pretty scared and so after a few minutes I took her over, put her into a floatation device and took her back into the pool with me...all the time explaining why she must never go into the pool without armbands or the ring she was wearing....and NEVER EVER without Mummy or Daddy there.

It was a "fall off the horse and get back on" kind of thing...but with a lesson to be learned as well.


Wow..scary story...we have 5 kids ages 3-18. Oldest 4 all swim very well, youngest when we got pool didn't swim too much. Have lots of safetly features like fences, alarms..but you never know. Doesn't take long. Figured the best safety thing was to get him swimming. After few months he swims like a fish. Back and forth for hours..is actually pretty strong swimmer. Still, never leave unattended though. Probably be few years..if even then. Biggest fear for me is other peoples kids.

Now the cost is a whole nother story. Debated it for sometime, wasn't cheap. 9 months later though look at it as one of best purchases ever made. Kids are in it on a daily basis. In fact, most days I go in it as well.

Oh, and 49lbs. at age 2?? Good lord, what are you feeding that kid. That is HUGE!!! Glad to hear she is safe.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: LePaul on July 17, 2006, 05:10:35 PM
Oooh Sandy, to have humidity that low....

As a non-pool owner, how big a ding does that put in your power bill?  I dont know the rates elsewhere but we're paying about 8 cents a kilowatt hour here
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Sandman on July 17, 2006, 05:56:11 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Oooh Sandy, to have humidity that low....

As a non-pool owner, how big a ding does that put in your power bill?  I dont know the rates elsewhere but we're paying about 8 cents a kilowatt hour here


It doesn't put that much of a strain on my electric bill. I pay approximately $100 per month, but I do the level pay method.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Gunslinger on July 17, 2006, 09:18:46 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
It doesn't put that much of a strain on my electric bill. I pay approximately $100 per month, but I do the level pay method.


Funny story.

So I came home today after working bout 15 hours (0345 to 1845) and my pool is a green mess.  BUT i know that the mess is on the bottom and that's just the algee and stuff coagulating (SP?).

SO it's time to get the aqua critter earning it's pay.  I set it up to vacum and put the filter on backwash just to make sure we arestarting with clean sand.  SO anyways I forget about it and end up backwashing the filter for about 15 minutes.  My first instict (beer in hand) was "damn that leaks gotten worse"  then I noticed the first step of the stairs giving way to the second set of stairs in the water line wich NEVER shows.  Then it hits me I forgot to put the pump back on filter.  There goes about $20 worth of water.

DOGH!  :mad:
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: nirvana on July 17, 2006, 10:21:13 PM
Sounds like fun, i'm glad we only have a hot tub.  When my aunt first moved into her place down there, her water was green too, she drained it over the "winter" the filled it fresh and got a lot of insight from one of the pool places by her house.  Good luck!
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: LePaul on July 18, 2006, 12:28:35 AM
Neat sig, Nirvana, but mine is bettttter



ASE Certified:  Country Music Radio Station De-Programmer
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: nirvana on July 18, 2006, 01:28:18 AM
Ahhh yes ASE certification, if you can read a book you can get certified.:rolleyes:
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Nilsen on July 18, 2006, 03:07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Curval
Forgive me Guns, but I must thank you and ask that you continue to post problems with your pool.

It just makes me feel a whole lot better about not having one myself. (It being really really hot and humid outside right now).

Carry on.

:aok


Have I at any time mentioned that when I walk out the door i have about a 5 second walk to the ocean were the water is a pleasant 71-72F ? The humidity out there is pretty high tho :D

Airtemp today atm is 78 but will prolly hit 86 later
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: rpm on July 18, 2006, 03:08:48 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
There goes about $20 worth of water.

DOGH!  :mad:

Magnet + water meter = free
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Sandman on July 18, 2006, 10:03:57 AM
I can't recall that filling the pool made that much of a dent on my bill. IIRC, I think it cost me about $75 for 16,000 gals.
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: Nilsen on July 18, 2006, 10:10:38 AM
If you send me some stamps and a bottle ill send you some water... :D  its free here
Title: pool question 3 or 4 (lost count)
Post by: BigGun on July 18, 2006, 11:23:06 AM
I think my bill jumped about $75 for 20,000 gallons. Definately not worth dishonesty & stealing.