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Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: Black Sheep on July 16, 2006, 03:25:16 PM: http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220060108473%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20060108473&RS=DN/20060108473

Here's a U.S. patent application submitted by a guy in Bangkok whereby 1 alternative is an explosive charge causing one wing of the plane to detach itself from the fuselage, presumably allowing the aircraft to spin like a rotor, and hopefully causing a softer landing.

Can you imagine the ride?
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: Chairboy on July 16, 2006, 03:27:55 PM: Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeee-splat.
Title: Re: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: APDrone on July 16, 2006, 03:44:53 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Black Sheep

Can you imagine the ride?

Sure.. I manage to do it with 110s all the time..

And I don't even have to lose a wing to do it.
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: AquaShrimp on July 16, 2006, 03:58:47 PM: I'd much rather have one of those giant parachutes that can be attached to light planes.
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: Chairboy on July 16, 2006, 04:00:33 PM: It's had to imagine a situation where this spiral would be safer than flying the plane all the way down.

I don't dig the "stop teh terrorists!!!" idea either, that's just a badge that's pasted on every project to get funding these days.

"We need to upgrade our police cars to have CD players. The higher level of awareness this will create for late shift officers will help them fight terrorism better."

"If the animal pound doesn't get an additional 5% in funding, the increased number of stray dogs may distract first responders from _stopping teh terrorists!_"

"If we don't confiscate these nail cutters, _TEH TERRORIRSSTSSST WILL WINNNN!_!"
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: cpxxx on July 16, 2006, 04:13:31 PM: The guy has obviously has no clue as to how a wing actually works.
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: Maverick on July 16, 2006, 04:43:49 PM: Lesse here. They guy thinks that a spinning airplane with 2 wings will crash bad. Then he thinks a spinning airplane with one wing is somehow going to be better. :huh

I don't want to be in ANY moving vehicle that guy is in charge of.
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: APDrone on July 16, 2006, 05:42:11 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Maverick
Lesse here. They guy thinks that a spinning airplane with 2 wings will crash bad. Then he thinks a spinning airplane with one wing is somehow going to be better. :huh

I don't want to be in ANY moving vehicle that guy is in charge of.

Well, he did specify retro rockets to be installed to fire before impact to slow the vertical descent rate.

Guess the fellow is pretty hard up trying to find a payback for all the time he wasted playing 'lunar lander'.
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: SirLoin on July 16, 2006, 05:46:49 PM: I wonder how many people would ride in a plane knowing explosive charges were wired to eack wing root?

I wonder what religion this "inventor" is..:rolleyes:
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: Black Sheep on July 16, 2006, 05:59:49 PM: Quote
Originally posted by APDrone
Well, he did specify retro rockets to be installed to fire before impact to slow the vertical descent rate.

Guess the fellow is pretty hard up trying to find a payback for all the time he wasted playing 'lunar lander'.

And if the plane happens to be upside down at time of said retro rockets firing??? lol
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: APDrone on July 16, 2006, 06:12:55 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Black Sheep
And if the plane happens to be upside down at time of said retro rockets firing??? lol

Well, whereas he doesn't specify the orientation of the aircraft, in general, he does specify the direction of control..

Quote
.. from the application..
[0011] When the airplane achieves a close proximity to the ground, a set of rockets or jets mounted under the fuselage 4 will ignite, with a downward thrust. This downward thrust will further slow the descent of the airplane and thus give a softer landing.

Of course, if the plane is inverted.. and the rockets are mounted on the bottom ( as defined when plane is 'verted' ) and they will still fire downward, then the thrust would go through either/or/all the wing, where lots of fuel is probably kept.. kaboom.. or the fuselage, where lots of passengers are kept.. thus defeating the purpose of the whole safety program anyway..

Right?
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: B@tfinkV on July 16, 2006, 06:41:01 PM: i refuse to believe anyone truly intended this patent seriously.
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: Maverick on July 16, 2006, 07:04:34 PM: He spent money to get it to the office.
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: B@tfinkV on July 16, 2006, 07:27:03 PM: oh dear me.
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: Black Sheep on July 16, 2006, 07:51:29 PM: Well...... If they are aerodynamic enough to be placed on the outside fuselage for normal flight - perhaps he was thinking gyroscopes and motors to compensate for any direction the plane happens to be falling. But who knows...
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: AquaShrimp on July 16, 2006, 08:21:13 PM: It would be much cheaper just to equip everyone in the plane with individual parachutes.
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: Vulcan on July 16, 2006, 08:33:27 PM: I'm guessing its a WW2OL player.
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: Paxil on July 16, 2006, 08:34:26 PM: I saw video of a plane... I think it was from warbirds... where a damaged engine on a twin engine plane cause it to take off like a helicopter. =)
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: Vulcan on July 16, 2006, 08:38:58 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Paxil
I saw video of a plane... I think it was from warbirds... where a damaged engine on a twin engine plane cause it to take off like a helicopter. =)

err nope that was the infamous WW2OL BF110.
Title: A Safer Way To Crash Your Plane
Post by: OOZ662 on July 17, 2006, 04:22:16 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Paxil
I saw video of a plane... I think it was from warbirds... where a damaged engine on a twin engine plane cause it to take off like a helicopter. =)

TheThang and I were doing that in a H2H the arena the other day. DA map, A1, Wind set with the S radio bubble filled, 127 in both speed boxes. NE launch, pull back hard and wait for engines to start. Plane will pick up and rotate left, pranging the left prop. Wind holds it up, engine rotates it; helicopter.