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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Yoshimbo on July 17, 2006, 11:01:44 AM
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I'd like to host, but alas, i lack a router.
so...Which kind of router would you all suggest? I see alot on the Linksystems, should i go with that?
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why do you think you need a router to host? Are you hosting through LAN or through the internet?
What's your current internet connection? DSL? CABLE? AOL (ha!)? Speed?
tigerdirect.com has a bunch of recertified routers... don't waste your money at Worst Buy
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Originally posted by Yoshimbo
I'd like to host, but alas, i lack a router.
so...Which kind of router would you all suggest? I see alot on the Linksystems, should i go with that?
Just got a wireless G Airlink from Frys for $30 on sale.
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what do you need a router for?
If you've got broadband, just open up the ports on your FW and run?
Router just complicates things if you're the only PC on your little network.
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Like said, you don't need a router for hosting the Aces High.
I think it's good to have a router in general, because it kind of hides pc ip-address from the internet.
Since I started to use a router my pc firewall get 'muted'. No more sniffing/intruder warnigs.
If you like to host Aces High with VOX, then you temporarly set pc to the DMZ-mode with your router.
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You want a router for 2 reasons - security, and the ability to run more than one computer using the same broadband connection. You don't need a router to host AH, but you're vulnerable if you don't have one.
Software firewalls are worse than useless, because they lure you into a false sense of security. With a software router your computer is directly addressable from the internet so if a vulnerability (bug) pops up, your computer is 100% vulnerable to any exploit coded against that vulnerability until you patch your software.
A friend of mine recently tried to do the software firewall thing with a brand new computer... His computer was serving porn and locked up tight sending spam within 6 hours of his first connection to the internet.
I have had bad luck recently with d-link routers so I'm currently recommending linksys routers (either wired or wireless) at the cheap end of the market. If you go for a wireless router, make SURE you go into the configuration to change the default password and DISABLE the wireless until you learn how to turn on the wireless encryption feature, otherwise anyone nearby can hop onto your network, check out your computer, and use your internet connection. Better to just skip wireless entirely until you need it.
You will need to check the H2H hosting documentation to learn how to open ports through your router to host AH H2H. That is a much safer solution than switching to "DMZ" mode while hosting.
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Well, i have a DSL 300k connection (although it seems I'm not getting 300k all the time :furious ) and i would like to host until i get a router (for the security)
Now this"Scottydog" fella said: 'If you've got broadband, just open up the ports on your FW and run'
how would one go about doing this, I need to know how to doit and undoit
and could sum1 elaborate on this "DMZ" and "VOX" ?
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Originally posted by scottydawg
what do you need a router for?
If you've got broadband, just open up the ports on your FW and run?
Router just complicates things if you're the only PC on your little network.
A router is one of the best hardware firewalls you can have to protect yourself. Even for just 1 PC, a $30 router offers extra security..
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a routor/gateway rules for protection ....
FYI the only thing ive run for the last 4 years is an AV program... NO Firewall at all .
I can do the symantec security check and pass with hidden ports everytime .
Ive never caught a bug while behind this setup .
A firewall program is for pc's not behind a routor ... and even those can catch a bug quicker then you can count to 1 ..
"Software firewalls are worse than useless, because they lure you into a false sense of security."
thats pritty much it .
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alll this info is nice and all, but..uh,
HOW DO I HOST ON DSL!
just open up the ports on your FW and run
ELABORATE!
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If you don't have a router or firewall, then you just start up the game and select h2h host.
That's it. Well, there's more to it than that because you need to know how to set up AH to have a host that people actually want to visit, but that's all in the help files, arena settings, and h2h hosting readme.
If you have a firewall such as zonealarm or windows firewall, then you need to make sure that the firewall recognizes the game as being authorized to open network connections. Normally this happens automatically but since I don't use a software firewall, I don't know or care exactly how to do it. If you can't figure it out, disable the firewall while hosting and hope nobody hacks your system while you're unprotected.
Since you don't seem to have a firewall or router, just start the game and click the buttons necessary to host a H2H game. That's as tough as it gets, whether you use DSL, cable modem, or a regular phone line modem.
There is a hosting readme or help file, and I strongly suggest reading it.
If that still doesn't work, then google is your friend, because if you do not have a router or firewall and AH h2h host won't work, then you have a problem somewhere and need to educate yourself on home networking basics including basic tcp-ip stuff including how to customize your home network's tcp-ip settings.
I also strongly suggest hitting google and searching for home network setup. There are a dozen or more great articles out on the intarweb that explain in various levels of detail how to set up a network at home, including custom tcp-ip, firewall, and router settings. But it sounds like you don't even need that right now.
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Why don't you guys cut him a break. (You should've called me in sooner!)
Let's see. Usually DSL / Cable have modems that come with your internet package. Usually these modems have firewalls (not all the time). We need to re-configure these firewalls to open up ports 2000 - 5000 on UDP and TCP.
To do this, follow these simple steps:
1. Go to: Start>Run. Type in: command and press "Enter".
2. Command Prompt (MS-Dos) pops-up. Type in: ipconfig
3. Press: Enter.
4. A list appears with 3 IP Addresses (Usually 3). Look for the IP Address
next to: Default Gateway.
5. Open Internet Explorer (Or the internet browser you use). And type in this address. NO "www." and NO ".com"!!! Just the pure address and press: Enter.
6. Your router's / modem's settings panel should appear. Look for options such as:
NAT
Ports
Port Forwading
Virtual Servers
Firewall
If you cant find any of that, click around a while until you find an interface that allows you to open / forward ports 2000 - 5000 on UDP and TCP.
If you do find it, just tell it that you want ports 2000 - 5000 open on both UDP and TCP. If it asks for a private IP or anything such as that. Look back at the Command Prompt (ms-dos) interface where you got the IP address.
Look for the IP Address next to: IP Address.
If the router asked you for a private IP address, that is the address you place in that slot.
Afterwards, just apply the changes, and exit out. This configures your router / modem to host H2H arenas.
(Was that so hard to explain guys?)
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HA! ^_^
I found the NAT, and I saw many a service but no AH, so i made my own custom service, which fowards ports 2000-5000 on FTP and UDP just like you said.
TX for all the hlp!
I look foward to my first hosting. but remember if you come into my rooms,
for in my rooms,
I
am
god
:t
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ERROR: You need to open TCP, not FTP! FTP is for file transfer protocol, TCP is for inbound connections.
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Appears god needs practice being god.
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Many consumer grade routers do not support UDP over NAT. This simply means when you are hosting, you will not be able to have VOX work.
Motorola makes a consumer router which does support UDP over NAT, but I have not found any DLink or LinkSys routers which support it (or support it properly). Just FYI.
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First host great success!
I hade an early war plane set and it was fantastic, I map was small so it was crazy, it then later turned into an FFA.
TX for all ya'lls hlp
:aok
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See, told ya to cut the kid (No offense) a break and call me in.:aok
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none taken
:D