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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CMC Airboss on July 19, 2006, 12:09:57 AM
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So much for retiring the Tomcat! The only remaining Navy Tomcat squadron, VF-31, looks like it will be deployed on the "The Big Stick" to support the emerging middle east conflict.
http://www.newsregister.com/news/story.cfm?story_no=210529 (http://www.newsregister.com/news/story.cfm?story_no=210529)
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I knew they couldn't live without it
:aok
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Time to saddle up for the last ride.
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My jrotc instuctor in hischool was a back seater in F-4's and he was heart broken to hear that they retired the last of the weasles, Im glad to see the tomcats going on one last ride... ill be watching for info on em now, thx dude
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Well,
My friend just got back. Guess its only fair to go back with the Cat.
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Welcome back F-14 crews! I'm only saddened that you dont have newer, upgraded F-14s to fly. Guess the A-12 and Super Hornet weren't such good ideas afterall.
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Anytime baby:aok Good to ear.
What's an A-12?
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A-12?
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/581_1153346112_a12_01.jpg)
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That would be the SR-71 Blackbird
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I can't really imagine a SR71 landing on an aircraft carrier, even if American ones are H U G E :p
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Whats an A-12?
The A-12 was a *hugely* expensive program in the early 90s to develop a stealth flying wing bomber for the Navy. Billions of dollars of cost overruns and the collapse of the Soviet Union stopped that project.
By one estimate the A-12 had become so expensive that it would have consumed up 70 percent of the Navy's aircraft budget within three years.
(http://www.habu2.net/a12/images/a12_2.jpg)
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
A-12?
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/581_1153346112_a12_01.jpg)
Google youve done me wrong! Get out of my house! Im keeping the dog too!
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Actually you are both right. sort of. There were twelve design passes on the SR71 and A12 was the last.
A12 was presented to the CIA, which ordered 12 of them in 1960. The first SR71 was presented around 1962. It was an updated A12, which carried camera gear which could cover the peripheral view, which is the primary difference between the first SR71 and the last A12. The A12 only had straight down view cameras.
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I love you google....come back to me.
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:lol
Oh! THAT A12 ... I remember now, I completly forgot about "The flying dorito".
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/581_1153346112_a12_01.jpg)
I want to watch that cat and trap!
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Think how much "excitement" would SR-71 carrier ops add to normal naval aviation ...for example think about leaking fuel tanks which seal themselves only at altitude...
100lbs of jet fuel on the deck + afterburner.... barbeque time!
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
I can't really imagine a SR71 landing on an aircraft carrier, even if American ones are H U G E :p
Model it for AH, you'll see em landed on carriers just fine.
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Originally posted by LLv34 Jarsci
Think how much "excitement" would SR-71 carrier ops add to normal naval aviation ...for example think about leaking fuel tanks which seal themselves only at altitude...
100lbs of jet fuel on the deck + afterburner.... barbeque time!
Actually, it was heat that sealed the fuel tanks. Friction from drag would heat the skin panels, which caused them to expand and seal.
On the ground the SR71 did leak, but not that much. When they landed, the fuel level was below the major areas where leaks might occur. Some leakage would occur, but it would be at its worse just before takeoff, when the tank was full.
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I'll post this one for you Morph!
Hell Yeah!
Unfortunately like the A10 due to lack of production and parts the 14 is still doomed. Sad.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Actually, it was heat that sealed the fuel tanks. Friction from drag would heat the skin panels, which caused them to expand and seal.
On the ground the SR71 did leak, but not that much. When they landed, the fuel level was below the major areas where leaks might occur. Some leakage would occur, but it would be at its worse just before takeoff, when the tank was full.
Which is a stark contrast to the F-14 which only stopped leaking when it was empty. ;)
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Originally posted by Sandman
Which is a stark contrast to the F-14 which only stopped leaking when it was empty. ;)
That was a feature not a bug! no need for the fueling crews to look at pesky guages.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Which is a stark contrast to the F-14 which only stopped leaking when it was empty. ;)
LOL.....if it wasn't leaking, we knew had problems ;)
Fuel leaks weren't too bad, hardly at all, but hyd's was a totally different matter....Air force ground crews hated to see us pull up to the ramp to refuel during x-country's, they'd make us keep turning until the could runout with pads to soak up our leakage.:lol They didn't want to get their pristine concrete dirty:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Whats an A-12?
The A-12 was a *hugely* expensive program in the early 90s to develop a stealth flying wing bomber for the Navy. Billions of dollars of cost overruns and the collapse of the Soviet Union stopped that project.
By one estimate the A-12 had become so expensive that it would have consumed up 70 percent of the Navy's aircraft budget within three years.
Not to mention they were just ... ugly. I was a recipient of ye olde pink slip due to the cancellation of that program.