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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: tikky on July 20, 2006, 02:48:39 PM
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scarry...:eek:
The tunnel of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCg16FBgunA&search=USSR)
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Is everyone in Moscow plastered???
:huh
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they are just freaked out on a straight-ish line after going through here:
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6650/clip00013wv.jpg)
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Sitting in the back part of that bus would have been quite the ride. Talk about wiplash...
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someone should explain what those white lines on the road mean:lol
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Is everyone in Moscow plastered???
:huh
Yes.
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Tandem-bus-trailers...? Are you serious? :eek:
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WTF, was this in winter with ice on the road??? Or is this just more of the vodka effect?
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They just found out their changing their flag color to hot pink.
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That is very odd.....I think there is ice there.
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It must be the "black spots"
I kinda liked the music for that video:D (what band made that music?)
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Jeesuz fellas, Ice on the road? Tandem bus trailors?
It doesn't matter if the road and the vehicles on it were made of ice and nothing else. If it happens in that city, you better believe that Vodka played the deciding role.
I remember about a decade ago we lost an old, old family friend in a car wreck. He was in the back seat, passed-out drunk, hugging a ceramic toilet that he and his buddy, also wasted, had just stolen, as a gag, from another friend, when their car slammed into a parked bus somewhere in the vicinity of the Sokol metro station.
It was Vodka.
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Whoaa that bus ride must have been an eye opener !
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:rofl The two trucks
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Originally posted by Krusher
Whoaa that bus ride must have been an eye opener !
Thing is. If you look carefully.
After the driver regained control.
He kept going :lol
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It is a fact that no russian can keep on his lane of the road on a straight road. They drive like they do anything else in general.. 'pissing on the run' as we say. :huh
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I like when the two busses fall over and the guy in the middle immediately turns his blinker on and goes fo the clear lane...like, "Aw dammit...not again...awright...round we go..."
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Lefortovo tunnel is scary. Almost 3km underground, and several turns. Last week a car caught fire there, it jammed one side of third transport ring completely for 6 hours. All traffic in 10-million megapolis blocked.
Russian driving style is not very calm. There are no Russians who don't like riding fast (c) N.V.Gogol. I had one aquaintance from Swiss who said that muscowites drive very politely and friendly, but then he said that he lived in south-east Asia for 15 years :)
MrRiplEy[H], great Finnish folklore! :D I'll use this expression, thanks! ;)
Russians who drive in the US say that Americans never overtake and if someone drives Ford-T at impressive 40km/h - everyone behind him goes at the same speed.
I think that ice is the problem in this video, combined with "bald" tires and "shahid-taxi"s.
I don't drive, don't have a lisence and don't want to get one. Underground is much faster and safe, my ticket costs me about $0.5 daily, less then a litre of gas (i buy 90-day smart-card).
Moscow is a big village and it's unique even in Russia. It's crazy.
That bus is nicknamed "garmoshka", a "harmonica", they were made in Hungary by Ikarus, IIRC now Russia bought that factory and builds them here.
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Russians who drive in the US say that Americans never overtake and if someone drives Ford-T at impressive 40km/h - everyone behind him goes at the same speed.
I wouldnt say that is accurate at all. More likely to have someone flip you the bird as they honk their horn while blowing by you at Mach speeds. :D
(Mach speed thing was an exagerration, but you get the idea.)
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Originally posted by Russian
That is very odd.....I think there is ice there.
This 3150 m long tunnel in Russia is the longest in-city tunnel of Europe. There is a river running over it ... all, and water leaks at some points. When the temperature reaches -38 degrees like it did this winter, the road freezes and the result is the attached video taken during a single day with the tunnel camera. PS: I wouldn't like to be on that bus.
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What I like about reading Boroda's posts...I always hear the voice of Mr. Chekov reading it to me.
(http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200307/chekov01/200x150.jpg)
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Wow! :huh
But, what's so special about the bus? They're quite common around here, being made by mercedes-benz and MAN.
(http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/media_library/hq/hq_mpc_reference_site/bus/NEW_VEHICLES/NEW_VEHICLES/publicservice/citaro_g/gallery/gal1_560.object-Single-MEDIA.jpg)
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I noticed that a few of the accidents were caused by idiots changing lanes in front of a fast car even though there is a solid line in the tunnel.
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They've replaced this
(http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~bandr/routemaster.jpg)
with this
(http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~bandr/LongBus.jpg)
and they're ****ing horrible. Slower, sweatier, prone to engine fires, basically a mobile chicane snarling up traffic wherever they go. So yeah, a few idiots died each year jumping on/off the old one but they were probably gonna die soon anyway.
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Originally posted by Trikky
So yeah, a few idiots died each year jumping on/off the old one but they were probably gonna die soon anyway.
:rofl :rofl :aok
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Originally posted by Redwing
Wow! :huh
But, what's so special about the bus? They're quite common around here, being made by mercedes-benz and MAN.
(http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/media_library/hq/hq_mpc_reference_site/bus/NEW_VEHICLES/NEW_VEHICLES/publicservice/citaro_g/gallery/gal1_560.object-Single-MEDIA.jpg)
Lol... I guess they're special because we don't have them over here, or at least I've never seen one used here yet. They're a good idea, though... probably too efficient to catch on over here. ;)
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Saw one in Seattle, except that it was a normal length bus with the dent in the middle, not a bus-and-a-half.
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Go north and you will see those busses. Have yet to see one catch fire.
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There are also electrical buses called Trolebus
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/cs/thumb/f/f1/Hk-TR1.jpg/300px-Hk-TR1.jpg)
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(http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~bandr/busfirelondon203.jpg) (http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~bandr/bus203.jpg)
3 of them went up before they found a problem with the turbo, Mercedes obviously selling us their Friday afternoon batch.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Russians who drive in the US say that Americans never overtake and if someone drives Ford-T at impressive 40km/h - everyone behind him goes at the same speed.
These Russians clearly never drove in the greater Los Angeles metro area.
And as for the tunnel, the most dangerous element here isn't the ice, the turns, the lack of lighting or the accordian-jointed Troleybusses. Without the Russian people (their mentality most clearly evidenced when right after witnessing and nearly missing a catastrophic accident, the first thing on their minds is to wiggle through and find the first opening so they can avoid the inconvenience and keep on driving), none of this spectacular idiocy could be possible.
Sorry Beard, but you live in a city of drunken lunatics.
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Originally posted by Neubob
These Russians clearly never drove in the greater Los Angeles metro area.
And as for the tunnel, the most dangerous element here isn't the ice, the turns, the lack of lighting or the accordian-jointed Troleybusses. Without the Russian people (their mentality most clearly evidenced when right after witnessing and nearly missing a catastrophic accident, the first thing on their minds is to wiggle through and find the first opening so they can avoid the inconvenience and keep on driving), none of this spectacular idiocy could be possible.
Sorry Beard, but you live in a city of drunken lunatics.
About Americans who never take over - it's a quote from some guys who drove rented "cow-loke" (compared to their VAZ 8 and 9 model) on the East Coast.
Second. There are enough idiots everywhere. What we have here is nothing more then a "meddle" of accidents, filmed on 3km of Lefortovo tunnel, both ways, so let's understand that in fact it's 6km, for over then 2 years. I bet if you'll combine all such accidents on the same distance in LA area - the result will be more pathetic, even involving modern cars, not Ladas, Mercedes buses, not Ikarus or LiAZ, and modern trucks, not ZiL-130. And it will be seen in an area where small snow causes national catastrophe. When I was in St.Louis in Feb. 1989 they cancelled classes at school when it was -15C and 10cm of snow! Here I enjoyed cancelled classes only once when it was below -20C in Leningrad, with 100% humidity and 20m/s wind. In Moscow they didn't cancel classes when it was -35C in the morning back in the 80s.
I wonder what could happen if it was -38 in the morning and 50cm of snow falling in one night! Here American cars like Ford Focus, designed for Russia, had their skin "shrinked" so that their frame underneath was clearly seen, like ribs on underfed cow! In such weather 90% of you guys will be unable to start your engine. And don't tell me about "cold places" that you have in the US: NYC is on the altitude of Tashkent. Tashkent! And non-continental climate all over the States! And Gulfstream on the East Coast!
The main problems are, as I said, poor tires (all-season Soviet rubber) that completely fails at low temperatures and "shahid-taxi" drivers ("shahid" now means a Moslim kamikaze-bomber, "shaha" means a Lada model 6 ("shestaya model'"). "Shahid-taxists" can't drive and they use their cars literally until they fall into pieces, or crash when the rubber on tires is worn to the cord.
Try driving drunk here. Our beloved Militia knows it's business, they see such drivers from several km, and the "excuse ticket" now is above $1K, my official salary for a year. And if you drive an expensive car, not Lada or a 20-years old Euro - it will be more. Much more.
Sorry for asking, but how long ago did you leave Russia/USSR? How old are you? I am 33, one of the last Comsomol members (nothing to be proud about, I spent 50 kopeykas on it [25 months 87-89] before I got my personal card back in MVTU because VLKSM ceased to exist).
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Originally posted by Trikky
(http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~bandr/busfirelondon203.jpg) (http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~bandr/bus203.jpg)
3 of them went up before they found a problem with the turbo, Mercedes obviously selling us their over-rated engineering.
Fixed.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Sorry for asking, but how long ago did you leave Russia/USSR? How old are you? I am 33, one of the last Comsomol members (nothing to be proud about, I spent 50 kopeykas on it [25 months 87-89] before I got my personal card back in MVTU because VLKSM ceased to exist).
I'm in my late 20s, Beard, and I stopped living in Russia when I was 4.
Nevertheless, despite years of American indoctrination, I still managed to stay fluent, marry a pretty Russian girl (whose family belongs to that cute and fuzzy socio-economic group that was, up until the late 90s, referred to as Noviye Ruskiye), and maintain a sort of love-hate attitude towards the old country. Thanks to my future ex-wife, I've spent a total of about 2 months in Russia since the winter of last year... Vladik and Mosvka, mostly. Before that I made several other return trips, totalling about 2 additional months of time spent there. Yes, I will attest that your militsiya can spot a drunk. I wouldn't be surprised if they themselves were a bit tuned when they show up for work.
And although most of what I said in the previous post was in a joking tone, I don't have too many illusions about what Russia is. Too much alcohol, too little judgement, too much bitterness, and, as a direct result, too little self-control. The bottom line justifies everything, any action, and the people who've benefited most from their success live life much closer to the edge than the wealthy of any other nation I've seen. These New Russians are doing capitalism the same way they've done everything else... Corrupt, absurdly lopsided, dangerously disorganized, as well as extremely evident and perpetrated on a massive scale. An entire Potemkin Nation.
Yeah, that was me ranting.