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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on November 06, 2001, 08:09:00 AM
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This is only ONE news site that covers this story, there are several more sources:
America *deserved* 9-11 (http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2001%2F11%2F04%2Fwchin04.xml)
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and?
Tronsky
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A Foe? I dunno.
I always had good service in China. They invented the WOK too I think.
Plus their women are fine little ornamentals. Ask that oven runner Mr. Fish.
[ 11-06-2001: Message edited by: Creamo ]
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trust em as far as you can throw em
same China now as on 9/10/2001
anyone thinking any different is only fooling themselves
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You're probably right, Eagler, why are they supposed to change?
Also I think that article is a propaganda fake. You can write the same things about Russia, and it doesn't give you an idea of what real people think and even about the official point of view. We had some marginal politicians on the TV saying all that anti-american crap, but they say it for the last 10 years.
How many people in the US will buy a tape with 09.11 footage just to see the details of the catastrophe?...
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yeah, as i've always suspected, china doesn't really want to do a "billgatesillion" dollars worth of business with us every year
...no instead they want to hop on their bikes and come here to hide under our beds and suck out our brains with bendy straws after we go to sleep.
it's kinda funny how all the rubes and simpletons in america were just dieing for a new enemy to wave the flag and get blustery at after the cold war - now we have a real one and they are still looking under bushes.
they are coming for us - better get down into the root cellar and start packin preserves ma!!!!!
:rolleyes:
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But what if they were a country full of Jews fish? ;)
you jew hater bigot!
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Foe.
And unfortunately for us they remember and think in decades and centuries unlike us who think in segments between the commercials and remember less.
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Originally posted by Udie:
But what if they were a country full of Jews fish? ;)
you jew hater bigot!
lol - wow you are obsessed with me in an unhealthy way.
you should talk to a shrink about your obsession with me - maybe you have some repressed emotions youneed to deal with.
you don't get a stiffy watching men's diving events do you....?
i hear they never tell pollock or black jokes down in enlightened round rock texas - if they did you would go rabid huh you little confused crusader.
i'll send you a signed picture of me and some kleenex and you can do it right instead of hijacking everyone's thread from here to eternity.
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I'm not a thread hijacker. I'm just here to remind people that your a jew hating bigot. It's really kind of fun ya know. Just wait until a year from now when everybody remembers that your a jew hating bigot. hehehe the best part is that you try and make personal attacks on me that aren't true hehehehe. When I call you a jew hating bigot it's the truth.
Anybody care to defend the bigot fish?
Oh and just so this is not official a thread hijacking. China is defenately a foe and should not be trusted.
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cast that first stone udie!
you are a totally non-bigoted guy so i guess you're the most qualified.
why you'd be overjoyed if your daughter brought home snoop-dog to diner some night huh? and down there at the chilli cook-off i bet you whop the hell out of anyone wearing a rebel flag huh?
let's all read some passages from the jewish holy book so we can understand udie's rage:
"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture says to honor the dog more than the non-Jew." TALMUD:Ereget Raschi Erod, 22 30
"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. THEY ARE BEASTS." TALMUD: Baba Mezia, 114b (page referrals)
"The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts." -- Saba Mecia 114, 6.
"Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night." -Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L.
" IF a goy kills a goy or a Jew he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy he is NOT responsible." --Tosefta. 9boda Za,-a 8, 5.
"If a goy wants a Jew to stand witness against a Jew in a Court of Law, and if the Jew could give fair evidence, he is forbidden to do it; but if a Jew wants a Jew to be a witness in a similar case against a goy, he may do it." -- Schalchan .9ruch, Choszen Hasiszpat 28, Art. 3 and 4.
"Those who do not confess the Torah and the Prophets must be killed. Who has the power to kill them, let them kill them openly with the sword. if not, let them use artifices, till they are done away with." Schulchan Qruch. Choszon Haviszpat 425.5.
"All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general' "--Schalchan arach. Choszen Hasisxpat 348.
. "On the house of the goy one looks as on the fold of cattle." -- Tosefta, Erabin VZZ, 1.
"The Jews are strictly Forbidden to cheat their brothers and it is considered cheating already if onesixth of the value has been taken away from him. Whoever has cheated his brother has to return it to him. Naturally all that only holds towards the Jew, to cheat a goy he is permitted and he is not permitted to return to him what he cheated him out of. Because the Bible says: 'Thou shalt not cheat thy next brother,' but the non-Jews are not our brethren, but as mentioned above, worse than dogs." -- aruch hoszen Haniszpat 227.
and so on and so forth - you carry their banner little tool but you can go f' yourself if you think i will. now go serve yo massa fool. remind everyone all you want - i wont budge. now i suggest you let this thread get back on topic and quit obsessing on me.
(to the rest of you, sorry for the hijack)
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Originally posted by mrfish:
cast that first stone udie!
you are a totally non-bigoted guy so i guess you're the most qualified.
I've got some prejudices, but not against any race, creed or religion unlike yourself ;)
why you'd be overjoyed if your daughter brought home snoop-dog to diner some night huh? and down there at the chilli cook-off i bet you whop the hell out of anyone wearing a rebel flag huh?
hehe I don't have a daughter, but it didn't bother me when my mother almost married a black guy back in the early 90's. It did however get her disowned for a few years from our family in Louisiana. HEHEHEHE and yes I did notice your anti-south bigotry in that paragraph, at least your consistant I guess...
let's all read some passages from the jewish holy book so we can understand udie's rage:
Ah you shouldn't waist your time with that stuff, I already told you I'm not jewish so I've never read their good book. Though of all the Jews I've known throughout my life they never talked about any of those things you just posted, not saying thier not in their bible though...
and so on and so forth - you carry their banner little tool but you can go f' yourself if you think i will. now go serve yo massa fool. remind everyone all you want - i wont budge. now i suggest you let this thread get back on topic and quit obsessing on me.
Good don't budge it makes life more interesting squealing with bigots I love pissing you guys off. You're lucky we live in America and you have the right to you're hateful views. BUT hehehehe I reserve my right to mess with bigots when ever I want to. :D yah jew hating bigot you...
[EDIT] well I guess I did kind of hijack this thread afterall. Sorry guys I'll move it to it's own thread next time...
[ 11-06-2001: Message edited by: Udie ]
[ 11-06-2001: Message edited by: Udie ]
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"wayul they thanks me an uh ma peoples is dawgs but i am a-shore a-gonna defend um errrrrr-yup"
yeah...you go dude, you can even get a little teeshirt to show your devotion.
i am also fromthe south (until age 12)and it makes my stomach turn every time some halfwit like you perpetuates the stereotype the rest of us spend our lives countering.
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Originally posted by mrfish:
"wayul they thanks me an uh ma peoples is dawgs but i am a-shore a-gonna defend um errrrrr-yup"
yeah...you go dude, you can even get a little teeshirt to show your devotion.
i am also fromthe south (until age 12)and it makes my stomach turn every time some halfwit like you perpetuates the stereotype the rest of us spend our lives countering.
hehe I think you need a shirt that reads "I rode the short bus to school" or " I ate glue at school" cause you've lost track of reality. Funny the stereotype I always hear about the south is that we're all a bunch of dumb arsed extra chromosome racist bigots. You fit that mold pretty damned good in more ways than one. HMMMM maybe when you moved up north that's when they got the idea that we're all dumb arsed racist bigots. Thanks alot fish you've tarnished the reputation of the south forever!
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MrFish, did you pull all of these quotes from the Aryan Nation's Website? Indeed, these "quotes" appear heavily an Aryan/White Christian sites and virtually nowhere else. I was able to find some sites to refute the "quotes."Refute Aryan Nation Propaganda (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/media.html) Having not read the texts in question (some of which apparently may not exist) I can't comment otherwise.
As usual, one side with an ax to grind distorts, makes up or misrepresents to prove a point. However, show me a religion or culture that doesn't find itself "superior" to others, at least where a fundamentalist misinterpretation can be brought into play.
I have worked with Jews, married a Jew (who practices her religion about as little as any Christian I know)and grew up around them for much of my life.
Jewish men can be somewhat aggressive, which is acknowledged within the Jewish community for any of you overly PC types out there. I have witnessed several discussion along this line among my wife's friends (don't even get her started on Israeli men) that additionally covered "Jewish Guilt" and, from the otherside, the Jewish American Princess. So what? An Ahole ad exec or banker? What a surprise there, Jewish or not! A JAP? My mother is from the South and readily acknowledges the Southern American Princess.
Jews can also be some of the most giving and easygoing people I have met. For every Jewish ad exec or financier that belittled you (as you noted in a previous post)there is a Jewish teacher.
The clannishness can be off-putting, but it's hardly unique among cultural/ethnic/social groups. In fact, without the clannishness it would be hard to imagine the culture/religion surviving as Diaspora without cultural assimilation.
I find it hard to believe you married a Chinese woman and haven't encountered clannishness and persecution because of your race. A very good friend did and he was treated like dogcrap by her family (until several arranged marriages that went totally bad changed their overall opinion of non-Chinese).
As I stated in an earlier thread, perhaps someday you will encounter Jews who do not support a stereotype -- I know I have, and without looking very hard. But first, I suppose, you have to be open to seeing such things.
Charon
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no charon, they appear in a variety of places througout the web.
there is a great discussion of some of these passages where indeed the sources are questions. i don't have the link now but i will post it later for balance.
in the end most are actually correct to the original text and the only disputed is the context.
edit - the post you posted is the link i was going to provide. read the refutations, all they can do is argue context on most of em - they admit they are there! besides, if you want to apply your own stndards to this guy's opinion then let's see some others refute it. i didn't rest on one source-you shouldn't either. i can post as many pro sites as you can con...
we have hundreds of websites relaying the info and one refuting it, research it yourself. even at that he only serves to support my claim in many cases! you believe what you want. my experiences match what i have read. the ones he admits to are enough for me.
if you find this site credible, then read it carefully - it makes my point quite nicely, especially when he is down to try to make excuses for the ones he admits to. some quotes he can't discredit, he only attacks their paragraph number! how pathetic is that.
"I find it hard to believe you married a Chinese woman and haven't encountered clannishness and persecution because of your race. A very good friend did and he was treated like dogcrap by her family (until several arranged marriages that went totally bad changed their overall opinion of non-Chinese)."
actually not at all - my experience has been - when you are in the family, you are in for life. there is no 'divorce' option. i have been ordered to appear in every family photo and attend every damn mah jong game :) the chinese are warm and friendly, i have never had any probs but that's my experience everyone has to draw their own conclusions.
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To get back on topic... I don't trust the current PRC government, but I don't fear them to any great degree. The worst case scenario would be an invasion of Taiwan, but we have stated our resolve and they can't (hopefully) doubt we would act on Taiwan's behalf. A destabilizing of the current government from internal pressures coul;d make anything possible though.
Charon
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Wow... you mean there are countries on this planet that don't trust and/or don't like the United States of America? :eek:
How can this be? :rolleyes:
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1. wtf is a goy?
2. what does a jewish fish look like?
3. Chow Yun-Fat is God
Tronsky
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muhahaha its very funny to see how 2 most arrogant people of the world flaming each other
its not secret, that most of americans are stupid(non informed,they dont need info they americans) and arrogant
im working with people of chinna for about 4 years
they are most rasistic people i ever meet and they are as arrogant as americans
btw whats lie in "This is the America the whole world has wanted to see. Blood debts have been repaid in blood. America has bombed other countries and used its hegemony to deny the natural rights of others without paying the price. " ?
the first sentense.: when you are making bussines by movies about destroying your country, it seems that you enjoy sutch idea (im not the one who call it entertaiment or bussines)
the third sentense.: Its true that you drop some bombs on someone time by time.... so what should those people w/o your informations, w/o understanding your pont of view, think about you ?
wake up ... there are about 6.000.000.000 people on this planet and only 240.000.000 of them live in the USA, super holy country whitch can do whatever they want to do .. ha ha
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My best friend in grad school was Chinese, from Beijing. He and his wife are two of the warmest and most hospitable people you could ever meet. I'm pretty sure that China has the same problems we have here. A government that doesn't represent the views and goals of the people, and a lot of uneducated people who can't figure that out.
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Its too bad that God gave each of us life but couldnt garantee us all freedone. That we sometimes have to fight and die for. Yet I still have faith in humand kind but that everyone or at least most people really want the same things in life. So shreck all the corrupt, evil, people oppressing power mongols in this world. They are and have always been in the way of the true goals of life loving happy people in this world. They cant rule this planet forever and eventually will be overcome.
As far as China, well the gov is corrupt but thats the nature of all power freaks once they get the power. At least they dont have an offensive capable military aside from nukes. In my opinion, their true goal however is to simply better blend into the world economy without loosing their own culture to very powerfull external forces and influence. If they can achieve that, they have succeeded within their own goals. Maybe then communism will end in China. If the rich bastards can keep their money, communism can die. The corrupt bastards in high level politics will still be there though.
At least these days though, there is less starving and book burning.
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Isn't China still communist? I don't think there's a question about it, their government doesn't like us at all.... but they just can't live without us. Without us, they would most likely fall apart because we are their biggest trade partner. Us without them, we would also suffer because of the same reason.
However, I do like this... "This is the America the whole world has wanted to see. Blood debts have been repaid in blood. America has bombed other countries and used its hegemony to deny the natural rights of others without paying the price. Who until now has dared to avenge the hurts inflicted by unaccountable Americans."
Basically what this feller is saying is that despite how many countries hate us- they're all lilly livered weenies, and it took some crazy islamic extremist terrorist to do it for them.
Are they too busy cowering in the corner to do what they apparently think should have been done for a long time now?
:)
-SW
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Originally posted by funkedup
My best friend in grad school was Chinese, from Beijing. He and his wife are two of the warmest and most hospitable people you could ever meet. I'm pretty sure that China has the same problems we have here. A government that doesn't represent the views and goals of the people, and a lot of uneducated people who can't figure that out.
one of best note Funked
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My best friend in grad school was Chinese, from Beijing. He and his wife are two of the warmest and most hospitable people you could ever meet. I'm pretty sure that China has the same problems we have here. A government that doesn't represent the views and goals of the people, and a lot of uneducated people who can't figure that out.
Sounds a lot like western Canadians in relation to the federal government. O'reilly is currently calling for a boycott of Canada, I guess we may be the next "enemy" according to him.
Great words FunkedUp.
I worked in Hong Kong for Magnum Films for 6 months, and met a lot of Asian Movie stars, directors, and other people in that industry. They all spoke very well of mainland China (this was pre 97), and the few times I went over to the mainland I was very impressed with the people of the country, as much as I detested what their government represented.
That still doesn't change the fact that they have a massive military, and a government who's policies and thought process aren't that easy for us in the west to analize. China could just as easily be a major enemy to the free world as it could be a friend, it'll just depend on the way the tide comes in.
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MrFish, you truly take the cake. Next you'll be trotting out "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and claiming it to be real :(
I wish i never opened this thread. I've always known on an intellectual level that diseased minds like yours exist, but coming (virtually) face to face with one is truly horrifying. Words fail me.. I'm gonna go be sick now :(