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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Bombardy on July 24, 2006, 09:38:49 AM
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was sorting through a few films I have and I noticed one where I made a pass on a formation of B26's in a ME262
I hit all three bombers with 30mm rounds in one pass, but only popped the right drone. the left drone only shows 3-4 hit sprites but the lead bomber has 3 or 4 hit sprites on the nose, 1 sprite on the left wing, and 4 or 5 sprites on the fuselage starting behind the trailing edge of the wing back to the tail.
I captured the video, but can't seem to figure out how to capture it in slow motion, still.....it's clear the lead bomber takes alot of hits (minimum 8 maximum of 10) but the lead bomber shows no damage....
how many 30mm rounds does it take to down a B-26? aparantly alot
HERE'S THE VIDEO (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3605923472885997674)
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(http://members.optusnet.com.au/vstrom/Bombardy/untitled1.jpg)
(http://members.optusnet.com.au/vstrom/Bombardy/untitled2.jpg)
(http://members.optusnet.com.au/vstrom/Bombardy/untitled3.jpg)
(http://members.optusnet.com.au/vstrom/Bombardy/untitled4.jpg)
(http://members.optusnet.com.au/vstrom/Bombardy/untitled5.jpg)
(http://members.optusnet.com.au/vstrom/Bombardy/untitled7.jpg)
Man thats A hell of a lot of hits
1- You were using all four cannons right ?
2- You were in the MA right ? not in a HTH room with modified settings
If you were firing all four and you were in the MA then DAM I dont get it the second drone copped it from nose to tail
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Its a bit difficult for me to see in your vid, so I dont know if it applies here but:
I have noticed in Film Viewer that the lead plane in buff formations shows hit sprites, even if I did hit only a drone. Of course only the drone goes down...
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Originally posted by Lusche
Its a bit difficult for me to see in your vid, so I dont know if it applies here but:
I have noticed in Film Viewer that the lead plane in buff formations shows hit sprites, even if I did hit only a drone. Of course only the drone goes down...
I rechecked the film and it looks like you are right
Check out the the tracer and notice that the first drone and the lead plane have the exact same hit sprites
(http://members.optusnet.com.au/vstrom/Bombardy/untitled12.jpg)
(http://members.optusnet.com.au/vstrom/Bombardy/untitled123.JPG)
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Look for the fireballs. 30mm have small explosions when they hit. The hitsprites show on all bombers, but not the fireballs.
At least, I don't think they do.
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(http://members.optusnet.com.au/vstrom/Bombardy/untitled42.JPG)
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umm krusty...does the Me262 have anything in it other than 30mm? so...if a round(s) out of a 262 hit something, would it not be a 30mm hit regardless of what the flashes look like?
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Krusty was refering to the way the film viewer displays hit sprites on the lead buff when the drones are hit have a look at the pics I posted above....
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I think the second drone should have gone boom... but not the lead buff
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b26's are ridiculously hard to kill, have noticed this before.
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its true the 26s are probaly the hardest to kill out of all the other buffs rediculuis i dont know i spend 3/4 of the month in them and have had many 262s hit me fast and kill all then others dont so maybe its a lag issue did you get the kills on all 3
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cool typical blockbuster movie !
B26 is the hero, and has to win !
Me262 the nazi, bad guy.
If Nazi wins, no "Hollywood style" happy ending, and peoples can"t eat the popcorn and ask the money back and the end
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Originally posted by ghi
cool typical blockbuster movie !
B26 is the hero, and has to win !
Me262 the nazi, bad guy.
If Nazi wins, no "Hollywood style" happy ending, and peoples can"t eat the popcorn and ask the money back and the end
i thought the brit always played the bad guy?
i think americans think that anyone with a foreign accent automatically = evil ;) :D
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If I remember right, HTC can open up the film and see exactly what hit where and exactly how much damage it did. Have you sent them the film and asked?
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Originally posted by Furball
i thought the brit always played the bad guy?
i think americans think that anyone with a foreign accent automatically = evil ;) :D
You poor, simple Londoner - Americans are the ones with the foreign accent:)
BTW, B26s seem to take a lot of hits. I've noticed they don't ignite as easily as B24s, Lancs & B17s also.
Anyone got any data on relative survival figures between B26s & other bombers during WW2?
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B24s were new, up to new standards. That is why they flame. B17s didn't used to until they were upgraded to modern standard. I'm pretty sure that B26s, Lancasters, and especially Ju88s and Ki67s will all light up like a zippo once they are all upgraded.
Don't forget every upgrade isn't just visual. It includes things like damage model revisiting etc etc.
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Originally posted by Whisky58
Anyone got any data on relative survival figures between B26s & other bombers during WW2?
I don't know what data it's based on, but I've repeatedly seen the B-26 having very low losses.
"the B-26B maintained the lowest loss record of any combat aircraft during World War II" -- wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-26_Marauder)
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Originally posted by Krusty
B24s were new, up to new standards. That is why they flame. B17s didn't used to until they were upgraded to modern standard. I'm pretty sure that B26s, Lancasters, and especially Ju88s and Ki67s will all light up like a zippo once they are all upgraded.
Cripes!! i hope the mossie doesn't get updated! :;) :)
I've always found the b26s hard to down, but it's more because of their speed. A few passes and i end up with their dead 6 presented to me.
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Only, it was considered a widow-maker to the crews that flew it due to crashes, training, and other problems. There was a myth that the high wing loading was the culprit, but these were disspelled with an education campain that included films for the flight crews on the proper way to fly the B26.