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Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Eagler on July 24, 2006, 09:58:52 AM
this guy is even a bigger tool than I first thought ...

Kerry knocks Bush on handling of Mideast conflict (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060723/UPDATE/607230360)

"The president has been so absent on diplomacy when it comes to issues affecting the Middle East," Kerry said. "We're going to have a lot of ground to make up (in 2008) because of it."

LOL
Title: Re: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Saxman on July 24, 2006, 10:12:18 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler
"The president has been so absent on diplomacy when it comes to issues affecting the Middle East," Kerry said. "We're going to have a lot of ground to make up (in 2008) because of it."


Actually, this much of it is correct.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Sandman on July 24, 2006, 10:28:56 AM
Damn straight. The message is invalid because we dislike the messenger.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: lukster on July 24, 2006, 10:39:08 AM
I think everyone except the diehard Democrats are tired of hearing the Democrats blame Bush for everything from terrorism to global warming. What exactly did Al Gore do to prevent global warming when he was VP and what did Clinton do to prevent terrorism?
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Shamus on July 24, 2006, 10:51:22 AM
Clinton was a tool so therefore Bush has a free pass..ya thats the ticket!!!!

shamus
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Yeager on July 24, 2006, 10:51:44 AM
To say that the current admin has been absent from middle east foreign policy is a really ignorant thing to say.  

Bush admin has been dealing directly with all things middle eastern since 9/11/01.  To suggest that having a democrat in office "right now" would have prevented the Iranian tools in hezbollah from attacking Israel is just more proof of acute liberal ignorance.  I recall the liberal King Bubba doing his utmost darnedness to bring a lasting peace to the middle east and look where it got him.  if old Slick willylicker cant get those two pathetic peoples from knocking the snot out of each other what makes you think a limpwrister like Kerry could have done anything better than bubba?  

Nothing and No ONE (especially dorkmeister Kerry) can prevent violance war and destruction in the middle east as long as persians and arabs are hellbent on destroying Israel.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: lukster on July 24, 2006, 11:00:56 AM
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Originally posted by Shamus
Clinton was a tool so therefore Bush has a free pass..ya thats the ticket!!!!

shamus


Since a democrat is claiming he woulda done better I think it's kinda relevant to point out that they didn't when they had the chance.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Mustaine on July 24, 2006, 11:10:16 AM
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Originally posted by lukster
Since a democrat is claiming he woulda done better I think it's kinda relevant to point out that they didn't when they had the chance.
Damn straight. The message is invalid because democrats dislike the message.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Bodhi on July 24, 2006, 11:25:53 AM
Deleted - Rule 7.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Sandman on July 24, 2006, 11:33:41 AM
Or current involvement in Iraq has probably limited our options WRT the rest of Middle East. I can think of a couple of traditional conservatives that would agree. ;)
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Shamus on July 24, 2006, 11:35:01 AM
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Originally posted by lukster
Since a democrat is claiming he woulda done better I think it's kinda relevant to point out that they didn't when they had the chance.


Well I kinda read that as Kerry saying it would not have happened had he been in charge..we will never know.

I take it that if you are blaming Clinton for 2001, then you place the blame for 1993 on George the first?, naw republicans can do no wrong

:lol

shamus
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: john9001 on July 24, 2006, 11:42:30 AM
relax, NATO is going into Lebanon to handle the hezbollah,
 see, WW3 averted.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Eagler on July 24, 2006, 11:49:18 AM
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Originally posted by Shamus
Well I kinda read that as Kerry saying it would not have happened had he been in charge..we will never know.


exactly - so why even say it?
because the dems base is so uninformed that 3/4's of them swallow it - hook, line and sinker
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: lukster on July 24, 2006, 12:02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Shamus
Well I kinda read that as Kerry saying it would not have happened had he been in charge..we will never know.

I take it that if you are blaming Clinton for 2001, then you place the blame for 1993 on George the first?, naw republicans can do no wrong

:lol

shamus


I blame terrorism on terrorists. It's impossible to prevent terrorism in a free society.
Title: Re: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Wolfala on July 24, 2006, 12:21:42 PM
Working on the title of the thread - i've got 1 for ya.

'I wouldn't have banged that fat chick to get back at my frigid wife.'

Love,

Wolf
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Maverick on July 24, 2006, 01:16:08 PM
Lessee here.

Kerry: Going into Iraq = bad

Going after hezbollah = good.

How we going to go after hezbollah?? Invade Lebanon? Invade Syria? Wouldn't that kind of = invading Iraq = bad????

He would have done it better.... yeah right.

BTW how many hezbollah folks were in on 9/11? (just to use a tired old BBS arguement) How does hezbollah connect with osama? What "threat" is hezbollah to the US? Is there a DIRECT threat to the US from hezbolah? Why do WE need to go after hexbollah, how is it in our national interests?? If it IS in our national interests then why are we not directly supporting Isreal militarily even if it is simply munitions?

What a twisted freaking situation but kerry would do it all better. Yep light that pipe up again folks.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: dinghy on July 24, 2006, 01:30:23 PM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Deleted - Rule 7.
mr. bodhi's manner of expression may be a little on the abrasive side his message is right on the money.  do we want more of our people garrisoning another middle eastern trouble spot?  these problems have been around going back to biblical times and if the earth last's another 10,000 years they will still be here.  if there is still an america in 10,000 years the politics will likely be the same then too.  :)
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: BGBMAW on July 24, 2006, 02:45:37 PM
1) Give Hanoi Kerry a PT boat


he''l chase them into the jungle..errr desert..Then shoot a 10 year old kid


make sure he has his movie camera!!
HE was comn right at us!!
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: lazs2 on July 24, 2006, 02:49:25 PM
Does anyone think that giving the terrorists every thing they asked for everytime they asked would make the world a better safer place?

does anyone think they would be happy with that?

Does anyone not think that if you appeased one terrorist group it would not be the exact opposssite of what another terrorist group might want?

lazs
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: lukster on July 24, 2006, 03:14:21 PM
Just listened to Kucinich ranting about how the US should not be standing on the side lines but rather be involved now to stop the violence immediately. It's 99% of the democrats that give the rest a bad name.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Neubob on July 24, 2006, 03:21:42 PM
Hopefully, if you WAS president, you'd have somebody editing your public addresses.

Thank you for your attention.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Shuckins on July 24, 2006, 03:56:04 PM
What an incredibly inept, inane, and naive thing for a pol of Kerry's supposed stature to make.

Terrorists have been crossing the borders of Israel for nearly 60 years in spite of the efforts of some of the world's best leaders and diplomats to stop them.  

What does he think he would do that would be more effective than these other leaders have done?

Will he become a human shield, standing on the Golan Heights between Lebanon and Israel?

Call for talks with Hezbollah?  Mr. Kerry, I don't think they want to talk to Israel, if you know what I mean.

Urge the Israeli Government to make even more concessions?

What substantive suggestions can he make?  What does he have to offer in the way of a plan?

While many Democratic leaders have been stepping up their attacks on the administration's Middle East policy, they had best be careful.  The blood they smell in the water may well be their own.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: ujustdied on July 24, 2006, 04:04:52 PM
jesus freaking kerry is a tard. so he doesnt want to go over and help all the iraqies on the war of terror but he wants to go to the middle east have a nother vietnam war with the isrealies. is this guy drunk or what. if kerry gets in there in 2008 i think he will kill a lot more troops then we have in iraq.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: LePaul on July 24, 2006, 04:26:53 PM
So tell me, Mr Kerry, what ideas and plans were you planning to bring into the Oval Office?

  < crickets sound >


Thought so.

Its easier to snipe than actually offer ideas.

Or, oh yea, win at the ballot box.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Sandman on July 24, 2006, 05:05:45 PM
Meanwhile... the U.S. pledges $30 Million in humantarian aid to Lebanon.

Subsidies for the weapons in Israel and subsidies for the "innocent" victims in Lebanon.

As a taxpayer, I'm just gushing all over with glee.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: xrtoronto on July 24, 2006, 05:31:05 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Meanwhile... the U.S. pledges $30 Million in humantarian aid to Lebanon.


that's insignificant compared to:

(http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/193/israelaidca2.gif)

whole story (http://www.washington-report.org/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm)
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: EagleEyes on July 24, 2006, 05:42:09 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Lessee here.

Kerry: Going into Iraq = bad

Going after hezbollah = good.

How we going to go after hezbollah?? Invade Lebanon? Invade Syria? Wouldn't that kind of = invading Iraq = bad????

He would have done it better.... yeah right.

BTW how many hezbollah folks were in on 9/11? (just to use a tired old BBS arguement) How does hezbollah connect with osama? What "threat" is hezbollah to the US? Is there a DIRECT threat to the US from hezbolah? Why do WE need to go after hexbollah, how is it in our national interests?? If it IS in our national interests then why are we not directly supporting Isreal militarily even if it is simply munitions?

What a twisted freaking situation but kerry would do it all better. Yep light that pipe up again folks.



From what i have heard on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News;  Hezbollah has sleeper cells in the US.  And if we get involved, "the blood of the infedals (spelling i know) will run like a river."  Yeah, well, just bring it!  If ya want a Holly War then by God, we will give ya a Holly War.

"Its Gods job to forgive the terrorist, its our job to set up the meeting"
US Marine in Afganistan after the US invasion in 2001.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: RedTop on July 24, 2006, 06:43:31 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Meanwhile... the U.S. pledges $30 Million in humantarian aid to Lebanon.

Subsidies for the weapons in Israel and subsidies for the "innocent" victims in Lebanon.

As a taxpayer, I'm just gushing all over with glee.


:) Hi Sandy,

Hey, just think of it as YOUR tax dollars are going just for Kerry's salary. Then it doesn't hurt so bad.:lol
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: ujustdied on July 24, 2006, 07:14:44 PM
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Originally posted by EagleEyes
From what i have heard on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News;  Hezbollah has sleeper cells in the US.  And if we get involved, "the blood of the infedals (spelling i know) will run like a river."  Yeah, well, just bring it!  If ya want a Holly War then by God, we will give ya a Holly War.

"Its Gods job to forgive the terrorist, its our job to set up the meeting"
US Marine in Afganistan after the US invasion in 2001.



are u saying you acually listen to the clinton news network. LMAO wow i think carry will ruin the rest of america if he gets in there. i just want to freaking know why he wants to send our troops away from helping thoughs people so that we can have a "vietnam" like war with the lebenon people. kerry is koko IMHO and he will make america suffer.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Sandman on July 24, 2006, 07:41:46 PM
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Originally posted by RedTop
:) Hi Sandy,

Hey, just think of it as YOUR tax dollars are going just for Kerry's salary. Then it doesn't hurt so bad.:lol


Kerry is not my Senator.
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: RedTop on July 24, 2006, 07:49:49 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Kerry is not my Senator.


I tried:D
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Sandman on July 24, 2006, 07:51:25 PM
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Originally posted by RedTop
I tried:D


I'm not pro-Kerry. I'm anti-Bush. ;)
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: RedTop on July 24, 2006, 07:57:31 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
I'm not pro-Kerry. I'm anti-Bush. ;)


Ya know....I knew that:lol about Bush anyway.

But I like ya anyway...despite our differences in opinionated opinions.:lol
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Toad on July 24, 2006, 08:35:59 PM
From the CNN article linked:

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the Bush administration has not called for an immediate end to the fighting, arguing that leaving Hezbollah in place on Israel's northern border would only make further conflict inevitable.


Anybody disagree with that?

Anyone think leaving Hez untouched on the border will result in a cessation of attacks by Hez on Israel?
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 24, 2006, 08:39:07 PM
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Originally posted by Toad
From the CNN article linked:



Anybody disagree with that?

Anyone think leaving Hez untouched on the border will result in a cessation of attacks by Hez on Israel?


Yeah, at least half the Democrats, three fourths of Europe, and seven eighths of the the U.N.
Title: imo
Post by: Eagler on July 24, 2006, 09:06:32 PM
Israel will continue until they get what they want ...

an international peace enforcement force that patrols 10 miles inside the leb border installed to keep the hezboobs out - not the UN and with no Israelis or US in it

until that is in place & the soldiers are released, Israel will continue its strikes
Title: "If I was president, this wouldn't have happened,"
Post by: Toad on July 24, 2006, 09:11:53 PM
United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/facts.html)

There has been a UN force in Lebanon since 1978.

Remind me when there was actually true peace on the Lebanese-Israeli border during that time.

I can't seem to remember any significant period of long-term peace on the border from '78 to the present.

I'm sure somebody can remind me of when that happened.
Title: Re: imo
Post by: john9001 on July 24, 2006, 09:12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
Israel will continue until they get what they want ...

an international peace enforcement force that patrols 10 miles inside the leb border installed to keep the hezboobs out - not the UN and with no Israelis or US in it

until that is in place & the soldiers are released, Israel will continue its strikes


my sources say 4 NATO countries, Germany, France, Italy and another country (sorry i forgot which)  will send in troops to control that border.