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Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Seagoon on July 26, 2006, 01:58:10 PM: Hi All,

I was unpacking boxes the other night and stumbled on some old software I'd never bothered to install. One was the game "Red Baron II" which (since I was disco'd from the internet) I installed and tried playing. The graphics were horrible and the game was buggy, but I found it enjoyable anyway. After I got connected I discovered there'd been about a million updates and patches to the game, so I downloaded some, including the "Hells Angels" superpatch.

Unfortunately the graphics are still mostly terrible, nothing like the Superpatch screenshots. I suspect this is because my NVIDIA GEforce MMX card limits me to "directdraw" and not "glide" on the video preferences page.

What exactly are "glide" graphics anyway and is there anyway to get it with an NVIDIA card?

Thanks!

- SEAGOON

PS: Sorry Skuzzy, I feel terrible playing another sim but you don't have the SE5a, Snipe, or a single Fokker in the planeset yet. ;)
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Skuzzy on July 26, 2006, 02:10:06 PM: Glide was the old proprietary 3dfx 3D interface.
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Seagoon on July 26, 2006, 02:42:19 PM: So there is no way to emulate it I presume? Other than digging up an old Voodoo card and installing it that is...

- Seagoon
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Sandman on July 26, 2006, 02:45:30 PM: I seem to recall a Direct3D patch for Red Baron 3D. IIRC, it was a third party thing.

Not to drag this offtopic, but if there was a way to make LongBow II work on a modern machine, I'd be all over it.
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Momus-- on July 26, 2006, 03:27:31 PM: Openglide (https://sourceforge.net/projects/openglide) will let you run 3DFX Glide stuff on newer hardware through OpenGL.

If you decide to try it out let us know how you get on Seagoon. I've got a copy of RB2 sitting around somewhere and might just dig it out.
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Gh0stFT on July 26, 2006, 03:31:10 PM: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Baron_3D) :)
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Sandman on July 26, 2006, 03:39:33 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Momus--
Openglide (https://sourceforge.net/projects/openglide) will let you run 3DFX Glide stuff on newer hardware through OpenGL.

If you decide to try it out let us know how you get on Seagoon. I've got a copy of RB2 sitting around somewhere and might just dig it out.

I've got a copy of RB2 also. Does OpenGlide support LB2?
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Momus-- on July 26, 2006, 03:56:08 PM: I don't know - maybe I'll try it at the weekend. :)

Some of the community-made mods look cool on the wiki page as well.
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Ripsnort on July 26, 2006, 03:58:02 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Sandman
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Not to drag this offtopic, but if there was a way to make LongBow II work on a modern machine, I'd be all over it. [/B]

Ditto, I loved that game!
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: BluKitty on July 26, 2006, 05:35:00 PM: mmmm my frist 'online' sim ....... The orginal one that is.
Played Red Baron on Serria/Imagination network when I was a kid..... mmmm brings back some memories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagination_network#SierraLand
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Baron_%28game%29

Pic is from single player ... I only remember online being 1vs1.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Dynamix_redbaron1.png)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/83/INN_springmap.jpg/260px-INN_springmap.jpg)
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: SirLoin on July 26, 2006, 10:37:22 PM: Yeah..those were fun days RB3D(my first online sim)

Lets us know what patch works,,luv to give it a try again.
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Seagoon on July 28, 2006, 12:11:08 AM: Hi Momus,

Quote
Originally posted by Momus--
Openglide (https://sourceforge.net/projects/openglide) will let you run 3DFX Glide stuff on newer hardware through OpenGL.

If you decide to try it out let us know how you get on Seagoon. I've got a copy of RB2 sitting around somewhere and might just dig it out.

Thanks for the link, downloaded the DLL and pasted it into my Windows/System folder. I know that this is a silly question, but now what? How do I get it to run?

- SEAGOON
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Momus-- on July 28, 2006, 04:21:41 AM: Check here for instructions (http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?p=82021&)
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Shifty on July 28, 2006, 06:39:09 AM: Quote
Originally posted by BluKitty
mmmm my frist 'online' sim ....... The orginal one that is.
Played Red Baron on Serria/Imagination network when I was a kid..... mmmm brings back some memories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagination_network#SierraLand
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Baron_%28game%29

Pic is from single player ... I only remember online being 1vs1.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Dynamix_redbaron1.png)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/83/INN_springmap.jpg/260px-INN_springmap.jpg)

Wow now thats a blast from the past. I played Red Baron On-line , before moving to Air Warrior DOS. I had a blast witn RB On-line. Thats where the on-line hook got set, and I've been getting reeled in for nearly 15 years now.:huh
PS you could play 2v2 on-line:)
Title: Red Baron 3D question
Post by: Seagoon on July 28, 2006, 10:24:11 AM: Hi Momus,

Thanks for the FAQ.

I started up the game and lo and behold both "Glide" and "1024x768" were now enabled in the video settings. Unfortunately, when I select them I get engine noise and a black screen.

I'm going to uninstall everything and start out by trying to get Open Glide to work with just the basic out of the box RB2 game and tweak the settings there. If I can do that, I'll gradually add-in the patches I installed.

If I can get that going, we'll have to see if we can get some 8 player WW I madness going. Should be more fun than my prior game addiction.