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Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Shifty on July 28, 2006, 11:39:20 AM
I was reading in Squadron Signals book on the F4U Corsair that the ealy model F4Us tendancy to to flip the wing up at slow speeds was resolved by a small airfoil or wedge shaped peice of medal on the starboard wing outboard the MGs.

I have looked at a boat load of F4U pictures and just don't see it. Is this information correct? Looking forward to hearing from some Hog heads on this one.
Thanks.
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: MiloMorai on July 28, 2006, 11:47:32 AM
It was a piece 6" long and 1" wide. It was flat, basically a piece of angle with one edge attached to the wings leading edge.
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Shifty on July 28, 2006, 11:51:38 AM
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
It was a piece 6" long and 1" wide. It was flat, basically a piece of angle with one edge attached to the wings leading edge.


Thats starboard wing only I take it? I can see why now. I was looking for something a bit larger.
Thank you sir!
:aok
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: red26 on July 29, 2006, 05:39:27 AM
hey Shifty check your pm's sir and how are you doing ???

:aok :aok :O :O :noid :noid
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Shifty on July 29, 2006, 10:16:37 AM
Ditto.
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Bodhi on July 29, 2006, 12:57:31 PM
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
It was a piece 6" long and 1" wide. It was flat, basically a piece of angle with one edge attached to the wings leading edge.


Milo is absolutely correct, dimensions are a bit off, but not by much!  :aok
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Tails on July 29, 2006, 03:19:32 PM
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
It was a piece 6" long and 1" wide. It was flat, basically a piece of angle with one edge attached to the wings leading edge.


It was a stall-strip, yes? Just trying to visualize it.
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Bodhi on July 29, 2006, 03:35:34 PM
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Originally posted by Tails
It was a stall-strip, yes? Just trying to visualize it.


I'll post a pic of one on Monday
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Debonair on July 29, 2006, 09:16:31 PM
Is that it just outboard of teh guns?
(http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/images/main/98_anniversary/ANNF4U9.JPG)
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Shifty on July 29, 2006, 09:18:34 PM
Thats looks like what was described in the book.

Thanks all!:aok
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: red26 on July 29, 2006, 09:27:13 PM
Hey Shifty check your PM's sir?
:aok :noid :O
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Shifty on July 29, 2006, 09:29:30 PM
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Originally posted by red26
Hey Shifty check your PM's sir?
:aok :noid :O


I did. I can't reply because your mailbox is full. Clean up your act!!.:p
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: red26 on July 29, 2006, 10:28:13 PM
Ok SIR ready for inspection. send agin SIR!!:p :O :noid :aok :rofl
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Bodhi on July 29, 2006, 10:43:32 PM
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Originally posted by Debonair
Is that it just outboard of teh guns?
(http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/images/main/98_anniversary/ANNF4U9.JPG)


That be it...
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Reynolds on July 31, 2006, 03:13:11 PM
I dont see it.
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: red26 on July 31, 2006, 03:21:10 PM
Its just out side the most outer cannon kinda A shaped.
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Mustaine on July 31, 2006, 04:26:25 PM
what kind of difference did that little piece of metal make? :eek: :huh
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: red26 on July 31, 2006, 04:28:26 PM
From what i can underatan it kep the wings from folding up during flight. Boy that would suck "look out your right side canopy just in time to see your wing fold " UM ouch LOL:O :rofl
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Shifty on July 31, 2006, 04:32:58 PM
Actually it helped prevent the left wing from stalling during slow speed turns because of the torque generated by the large prop on the F4U.

Errr I think......:(
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: red26 on July 31, 2006, 04:37:03 PM
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I was reading in Squadron Signals book on the F4U Corsair that the ealy model F4Us tendancy to to flip the wing up at slow speeds was resolved by a small airfoil or wedge shaped peice of medal on the starboard wing outboard the MGs.



When it said the wing fliped up i thought that that ment folding up?? So hows it going there Shifty?:aok
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Widewing on July 31, 2006, 08:00:01 PM
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Originally posted by Shifty
Actually it helped prevent the left wing from stalling during slow speed turns because of the torque generated by the large prop on the F4U.

Errr I think......:(


All you ever need to know...... Airplane 6 was an F4U-1.

From NACA Test Report 829:

(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/F4UStall.jpg)
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/F4UStall1.jpg)
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/F4UStall2.jpg)

By the way, where they show the strip to be located was not where it was installed on production aircraft.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Shifty on July 31, 2006, 08:15:36 PM
Great Stuff TY WW!:aok
Title: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: red26 on July 31, 2006, 08:30:50 PM
OK OK  so yall had to pull out the big guns on me. Well I got something to say about that :furious




You sank my battle ship:rofl :O
Title: Re: Corsair wing flip problems.
Post by: Guppy35 on August 03, 2006, 05:26:43 PM
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Originally posted by Shifty
I was reading in Squadron Signals book on the F4U Corsair that the ealy model F4Us tendancy to to flip the wing up at slow speeds was resolved by a small airfoil or wedge shaped peice of medal on the starboard wing outboard the MGs.

I have looked at a boat load of F4U pictures and just don't see it. Is this information correct? Looking forward to hearing from some Hog heads on this one.
Thanks.


This image was in the new book on the FAA Museum FG1-A Corsair.  It shows the factory installed 'stall block" on their unrestored Corsair.  It also says that it is made of wood.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/861_1154643698_f4u1a.jpg)