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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gunslinger on July 29, 2006, 12:03:37 PM
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You really can't make this stuff up lol
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/pm-speeds-from-violent-protest/2006/07/29/1153816418925.html
Protesters kicked, punched and fired projectiles at John Howard's car today after the prime minister, who has been supportive of Israel, emerged from a Liberal Party conference in Perth.
About 200 protesters, many waving Lebanese and Palestinian flags, clashed violently with police as Mr Howard left a Perth hotel after delivering a keynote address to the WA Liberals' state conference.
Mr Howard had used the speech to attack Hizbollah, which is fighting Israel in southern Lebanon.
"It's not some kind of inspirational liberation organisation, it's a terrorist organisation," he said.
Mr Howard said he wanted a ceasefire in the Middle East, but this could only occur with international co-operation to disarm guerrilla forces.
"It will not be an effective or a lasting ceasefire unless there is the insertion into Lebanon of a large international stabilisation force, in sufficient numbers to be effective, and large enough to ... bring about the complete disarming of Hizbollah," he said.
As the prime minister departed, the protesters surged towards his car, demanding an end to the war which has killed hundreds of civilians.
"We want peace," they chanted as they mobbed Mr Howard's vehicle.
At least one protester was taken away by police, before the demonstrators continued their protest through the streets of Perth.
Mr Howard had said there would be no lasting peace in the Middle East until both sides accepted the right for independent Israeli and Palestinian states.
"There must be an unconditional acceptance throughout the entire Arab world ... of Israel's right to exist in peace and stability, behind secure, internationally recognised boundaries," he told the conference.
"There has to be an equally unconditional acceptance, including on the part of the Israelis, of the need and and the justice in the establishment of an independent Palestinian state.
"Until those two conditions are met there will never be a lasting settlement, there will never be lasting peace in the Middle East."
The ugly clashes overshadowed Mr Howard's address to Liberal conference, in which he pilloried Labor's policies on industrial relations and uranium mining - issues of particular weight in the resource-rich Western Australia.
Mr Howard highlighted divisions within Labor over a pledge by party leader Kim Beazley to scrap its longstanding policy opposing new uranium mines.
WA Premier Alan Carpenter has vowed not to allow uranium mines in his state - putting him at odds with Mr Beazley, a fellow Sandgroper.
Mr Howard said the no-new-mines policy was absurd because it assumed uranium from new mines was bad, but uranium from existing mines was okay.
"That's special, that really is you-beaut, fair dinkum, nice uranium," Mr Howard told a laughing audience.
"But the really nasty, bad, never-to-be-touched, awful, horrible un-Australian uranium is everywhere else, including in Western Australia.
"A policy more internally inconsistent and ludicrous I can't imagine."
Mr Howard went on to warn that Labor's pledge to abolish Australian Workplace Agreements (AWAs) would make the state's economy "retarded".
He said 43 per cent of workers in WA's booming mining industry were employed under AWAs.
"No part of our nation has benefited more from AWAs than Western Australia," Mr Howard said.
"There's no state that will suffer more by the election of a Beazley Labor government than Western Australia.
"What this means is that the direction of the WA economy and the Australian economy will be fundamentally affected and retarded if there's a rollback of our workplace relations reforms."
Meanwhile, Mr Howard urged party members not to be complacent as they prepared for next year's election.
"Anyone in this room who has the complacent assumption that we're going to automatically win, that federal Labor is a pushover, please put that out of your mind," he said.
Coalition backbenchers expect Mr Howard to use a joint parties meeting in Canberra on August 7 to indicate whether he will stay and contest the next election.
- AAP
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No, but you can exagerate the living crap out of a pretty ordinary event and make it sound like something interesting happened.
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so that stuff is ordinary down under?
Crikey!
You guys might want to stockpile some guns and ammo :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Bluedog
No, but you can exagerate the living crap out of a pretty ordinary event and make it sound like something interesting happened.
it's ordinary for a violent mob to shout "we want peace"?
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It is fairly ordinary for a group to be protesting something or other outside a venue that the PM is known to be at.
When he leaves the venue, in an armoured, bulletproof limousine and surrounded by security personelle, sometimes one or two of the "violent mob" will lean through the police line and swing a fist or foot at the PMs car, presenting no threat whatsoever to the occupants of the car, and earning themselves a trip to the local station in the back of a paddy wagon every single time.
Thats as far as the "violent mob" went, oh, there was a projectile or two...eggs, tomatoes,spitballs maybe, certainly werent bullets.
These particular "violent mob" members were Lebanese and Palestinian, does it suprise you they are yelling about wanting peace to a PM who is hardly shy about being pro western world/US/Israel and very anti terrorist organisations like Hezbollah and Hamas?
There was no "violent mob", the PM was never "attacked".
Its media sensationalism plain and simple.
PM has publicly known agenda, agenda calls for meeting at certain place and certain time, PM attends, local ethnic lebanese and palestinian people with a bee in their bonnet about Israel/Palestine situation congregate at known venue and wait for PM to leave, as he does they tussle with the cops, throw the odd egg or two, yell "we want peace" two or three times as PMs limo drives quickly away, mob disperses and goes home.
Hardly makes for as gripping a story as "Aussie PM attacked by violent mob" now does it?
laughable part is wtf is lil'Johnny gonna do to suddenly bring peace to the middle east?
As if the people who could bring about peace in the middle east (if such people exist) give a rodents rear end what the PM of Oz thinks, says or does.
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By the way, two or three days ago a homeless bloke very nearly succeded in sticking a large screwdriver into Mr Howard's chest cavity while he was out for his morning jog in the park.
The PM was confronted with a far more violent and dangerous mob with that single man than he was with a group of peeved expat Lebs and Pals in Perth but you dont see headlines screaming about that event posted here do you.
I was hoping someone had broken through the police line and socked it to the little bloke right on the nose.....and I voted for the guy :)
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it seems to me the irony of a violent mob shouting "we want peace" is lost on you.
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The irony of it is not lost on me at all Guns, but the complete and utter falacy of the report seems to be lost on you guys.
I see this thread titled 'Aussie PM attacked by viloent mob' and think, beauty, someone or someones have gone and laid into little johnny howard. bet this is going to be one hell of a story.
And it turns out all it was was a few pissed off Lebs and Pals shouting after a rapidly exiting limo.
What a let down.
As for the violent peace protesters, I agree, wtf?
But they are from the middle east, violence is how they solve stuff, must work , look at their home region.
Allso, they are *****ing about a problem that their own personal response to was to run away and live in another country.
In my opinion they gave up the right to influence events in their home country when the left it.
Nearly dawn and i've had a few drinks, I'm outta here.
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We can agree that everyone want's peace at the end, some try to get it flingin rotten eggs at the Aussie PM, some firing rockets randomly at Haifa, some dropping LGBs at a UN post. They are all wrong.
I want peace too, so I don't answer the phone and open another beer. I win.
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Well seems beetle just can't stay away and still stuck on the same sad obsession. Have you no life other than the bbs? How many shades you going to have here?
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Hi All,
Sorry to partially hijack the thread but a couple of questions since I've been away:
1) I see from the thread that Beet got PNGed? What happened?
2) How can you guys tell what is a shades account and what is a genuine new user? IP logging or just style?
Thanks,
SEAGOON
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By the way, two or three days ago a homeless bloke very nearly succeded in sticking a large screwdriver into Mr Howard's chest cavity while he was out for his morning jog in the park.
What the hell are you talking about mate?
He was talking to school kids at a school rowing club and it was announced that it was his birthday. One of the boys, who was fixing his rowboat gave John Howard a big hug to say happy birthday. He still had a screwdriver in his hand, but forgot about the fact that it might be a 'security risk'.
'Schoolboy gives Prime Minister a birthday hug'
or
'Homeless man attempts to murder the Prime Minister with a screwdriver'
??
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Originally posted by Seagoon
Hi All,
Sorry to partially hijack the thread but a couple of questions since I've been away:
1) I see from the thread that Beet got PNGed? What happened?
2) How can you guys tell what is a shades account and what is a genuine new user? IP logging or just style?
Thanks,
SEAGOON
Check your PM's.
Mav
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lunatic
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Hi Mav,
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll depend on you guys to do an "intervention" if I ever get that way...
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I think Skuzzy came to check on the bbs this weekend. ALL of eureka101's (beet1e) posts are gone.
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Originally posted by brendo
What the hell are you talking about mate?
He was talking to school kids at a school rowing club and it was announced that it was his birthday. One of the boys, who was fixing his rowboat gave John Howard a big hug to say happy birthday. He still had a screwdriver in his hand, but forgot about the fact that it might be a 'security risk'.
'Schoolboy gives Prime Minister a birthday hug'
or
'Homeless man attempts to murder the Prime Minister with a screwdriver'
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LOL, case in point I guess. Media sensationalism
local rag has " PM has close call with homeless assailant" going on to tell of a middle aged man making a lunge at the PM with a screwdriver while out for a jog.
Never mentions kids, canoes or Johnnies B'day.
Same event, wildly differant spin, or a seperate event? Who knows.
Anyway, the rellevant bit of all of these stories is the fact the little bugger keeps getting away unscathed ;)
Just did a search and can find no other mention of any incident with the PM and a screwdriver apart from B'day hug from kid.
I'll retract all that, it appears the only encounter with a pissed of hobo the PM had was in the imagination of a local journo, cant' really see how they get away with that.
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Kind of like a guy saying you need war for peace
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Originally posted by Seagoon
Hi All,
Sorry to partially hijack the thread but a couple of questions since I've been away:
1) I see from the thread that Beet got PNGed? What happened?
2) How can you guys tell what is a shades account and what is a genuine new user? IP logging or just style?
Thanks,
SEAGOON
Originally posted by Maverick
Check your PM's.
Mav
I'd honestly like to know how you guys sniff out the shades too. for 5 years now I have been around here with only 2 accounts JB73 and this. changed because I stopped using 73 in-game.
I can still never tell who is who, and can not tell 1 posting style away from another. guess i don't pay attention to jack schmidt :confused: