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Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Meatwad on July 29, 2006, 08:56:26 PM
I always wanted to take pictures of lightning, but my current camera doesnt have anything that would do it. I would perfer something maybe only around a couple hunderd dollars if its possible. Anyone know of anything good?
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Debonair on July 29, 2006, 08:59:35 PM
does your camera have a "B" or "bulb" setting?
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: DiabloTX on July 29, 2006, 09:00:55 PM
"It's not the machine, it's the man."
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Maverick on July 29, 2006, 09:02:20 PM
You'll need a camera with a timed exposure, variable F-stop, tripod and maybe a cable / remote trip.

Good luck at this, those can be some really neat pix. You planning on film or digital?
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Meatwad on July 29, 2006, 09:26:45 PM
Im going for digital. Currently I have a Samsung Digimax 200 which it is ok, but it may be time for an upgrade someday as it is getting a little old and the button is getting somewhat messed up.  I have fiddled with it and I havent been able to get it to do a timed exposure unless there is something that I am unaware of
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: xrtoronto on July 30, 2006, 12:52:45 AM
I've had this in my collection for years...one of my fav lightning shots:

(http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9204/lightn1dd4.jpg)
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Maverick on July 30, 2006, 12:56:02 AM
Methinks that tree has bad luck........
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: DiabloTX on July 30, 2006, 01:16:34 AM
I don't know about you but lightning scares the bejebus outta me.  When a lightning storm comes I am GONE!!!!!
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Masherbrum on July 30, 2006, 01:35:18 AM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
I've had this in my collection for years...one of my fav lightning shots:

(http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9204/lightn1dd4.jpg)


YOU took that?!!!!  That is badas*!!!!!!
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Gh0stFT on July 30, 2006, 03:58:12 AM
like Maverick said, you need a camera with a timed exposure,
and i doubt a digital cam will do this in a good quality or at all.
Film is still very good for such FX.
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on July 30, 2006, 05:36:29 AM
Current digital cameras do it with ease Ghost. I managed to get a shot of one on handheld this summer with the Canon EOS300D which is already old tech.
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: WhiteHawk on July 30, 2006, 05:51:48 AM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
YOU took that?!!!!  That is badas*!!!!!!


No, he didnt take that.  That is a famous lightning pic because it shows the negative electricitiy (ground) reaching up to the sky in the form of a streamer.  Note the telephone pole and the left part of the tree.  The streamer that reaches first gets the t-bolt.  Thats why you want to curl up in a ball on the open ground if you start to feel static electricitiy during a storm.
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Meatwad on July 30, 2006, 12:54:53 PM
I also recall that it follows the path of least resistance. That means a lot of you will have to remove your tin hats during a storm :D
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Gunslinger on July 30, 2006, 01:01:18 PM
I posted a page a while back about a lightning storm we had at edwards.  Unfortunatly the page is gone now but there was some cool pics in it taken with a pretty plane digital camera.
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: xrtoronto on July 30, 2006, 01:01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
YOU took that?!!!!  That is badas*!!!!!!


nope, didn't take that shot

(been in my collection since about 93/94)
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: xrtoronto on July 30, 2006, 01:25:55 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
The streamer that reaches first gets the t-bolt.


those 'streamers' are called Step Leaders:

Step leader
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A step leader is a path of ionized air which extends downward from a thundercloud during the initial stages of atmospheric breakdown during a lightning strike. Often, there are multiple, branching step leaders. As the step leaders form, these branches of ionized air form in a stepwise fashion, followed by a short period of inactivity, until the final step leader reaches the ground, a tall object on the ground, or a positive streamer extending upward from a ground object. At this point, the lightning strike begins as an extremely large negative electric current that flows along the path defined by the step leaders from the thundercloud into to the ground.
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Dinger on July 30, 2006, 01:32:25 PM
Yeah, heck, I took some decent lightning shots 5 years ago with my Nikon Coolpix E995. I still have the camera, and it's still my primary...

B(ulb) setting is very useful, but all you really need is a shutter-priority mode with exposure compensation. Set the exposure compensation to say underexpose one full stop, and run the shutter for a couple seconds on a tripod. Keep shooting until you get the lightning.
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: BTW on July 30, 2006, 01:42:30 PM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
those 'streamers' are called Step Leaders:

Step leader
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A step leader is a path of ionized air which extends downward from a thundercloud during the initial stages of atmospheric breakdown during a lightning strike. Often, there are multiple, branching step leaders. As the step leaders form, these branches of ionized air form in a stepwise fashion, followed by a short period of inactivity, until the final step leader reaches the ground, a tall object on the ground, or a positive streamer extending upward from a ground object. At this point, the lightning strike begins as an extremely large negative electric current that flows along the path defined by the step leaders from the thundercloud into to the ground.


That's why some people brag about being struck by lightning 3 or 4 times in their life. Me thinks they got struck by a step leader and not the that bolt you see hitting the tree! :) If someone got hit by that, I think their brain would evaporate.
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Meatwad on July 30, 2006, 03:01:26 PM
My dad said that he was out in a outhouse years ago taking a dump when lightning hit it. (well someone from the house seen it hit). He (they) said he took off running out of there like a bat out of heck with his pants at his knees and crap all over his butt :rofl
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: Debonair on July 31, 2006, 12:42:57 AM
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Originally posted by Dinger
Yeah, heck, I took some decent lightning shots 5 years ago with my Nikon Coolpix E995. I still have the camera, and it's still my primary...

B(ulb) setting is very useful, but all you really need is a shutter-priority mode with exposure compensation. Set the exposure compensation to say underexpose one full stop, and run the shutter for a couple seconds on a tripod. Keep shooting until you get the lightning.


zOMG brilliant!!
i forgot that with digital u dont need to worry about conserving film.
i photo-graphed lightning & metor showers near Tucson in '96 with my FM-2...
...i would use shutter prioroty for the guy running with his pants down also...
Title: How to take pictures of lightning
Post by: B@tfinkV on July 31, 2006, 01:05:16 AM
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Originally posted by BTW
That's why some people brag about being struck by lightning 3 or 4 times in their life. Me thinks they got struck by a step leader and not the that bolt you see hitting the tree! :) If someone got hit by that, I think their brain would evaporate.



this isnt possible as far as i know.


the leaders are not much more than static electricity.

objects on the ground, trees/buildings/people etc send off an almost imvisible leader.


as the staitc leaders from the thunder cloud decend, they search out for the easiest to reach leader from a ground object and once a connection has been made by a cloud leader to a ground leader the thunder cloud discharges all the trapped electricity down the 'wire' of the two connected leaders.


the forks coming out of the lightning are leaders that failed to reach the ground first, and the very faint one from the tele pole is a failed ground leader dying out.