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Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: rpm on July 29, 2006, 11:07:15 PM
Linky (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,206228,00.html)
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MALIBU, Calif.  — Mel Gibson issued a lengthy statement Saturday apologizing for his drunk driving arrest and saying he has battled alcoholism throughout his life.

Gibson also apologized for what he said were "despicable" statements he made to the deputies who arrested him early Friday morning on Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu.

"I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested," he said in a statement issued by his publicist. "I disgraced myself and my family with my behavior and for that I am truly sorry. I have battled with the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life and profoundly regret my horrific relapse."

Publicist Alan Nierob declined to elaborate beyond the statement.

Gibson, 50, was arrested for investigation of driving under the influence of alcohol after deputies stopped his 2006 Lexus LS 430 for speeding. Sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said deputies clocked him doing 87 mph in a 45 mph zone.

A breath test indicated Gibson's blood-alcohol level was 0.12 percent, Whitmore said. The legal limit in California is 0.08 percent.

The actor was released early Friday after posting $5,000 bail.

To prevent a thread lockage, I won't post the exact things he said. But let's just say according to the arrest report, Mel has a problem with those of Jewish decent.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Nash on July 29, 2006, 11:14:08 PM
Methinks that he not only purchased a ticket for the crazy train - he liked it so much that he bought the company.

A Tom Cruise move, without the hot 15 year old chick.

It's a good thing that he knows exactly where to go for the financing of his next independant movie, because he can kiss movie star life as he knew it goodbye.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Vulcan on July 29, 2006, 11:17:29 PM
He's an Australian, you get used to them after a while.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: rpm on July 29, 2006, 11:18:56 PM
I think he's gonna have a hard time getting money from the Weinstein Brothers now.

What gets me is he flipped out and only blew a .12. A .12!!! Heck, I blow a .12 before breakfast.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Chairboy on July 29, 2006, 11:31:48 PM
Passion of the Christ - Traditionally an anti-semitic play.  On its own, nothing, but if he was also making these comments at the arrest, well...  that's not a good combo.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: wrag on July 29, 2006, 11:36:46 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Passion of the Christ - Traditionally an anti-semitic play.  On its own, nothing, but if he was also making these comments at the arrest, well...  that's not a good combo.


AHHHH .................. dangit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Find myself agreeing with Chair????????????????????????

:O :O :O :O :noid
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: DiabloTX on July 29, 2006, 11:37:48 PM
I read those comments in the locked thread.  If true...whoa.  I'd feel sorry for Mad Max but no one put a gun to his head and said, "Drink!".

At least he apologized, kudos for that.  But talk is cheap.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Maverick on July 30, 2006, 12:39:31 AM
Yep I agree at least he acknowleges there is a problem. That's more than several other celebreties and politicians have done. It remains to be seen as to what he'll do about his problem however.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Nash on July 30, 2006, 12:42:48 AM
A drinking problem is one thing.

What he said that night is a whole 'nuther beast and has got nothing to do with a drinking problem.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Maverick on July 30, 2006, 12:54:39 AM
Really Nash, so the lack of inhibitions from alcohol can't possibly be related to it then. Funny that doesn't seem to pan out with the fair number of drunks I have had the misfortune to deal with.

Of course if all they gave him was ain intoxilyzer test there could be more than one intoxicant involved.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Nash on July 30, 2006, 01:07:37 AM
Yes, really.

You're right though - the lack of inhibition was due to the booze.

Just like some girls get completely raunched out after the 8th vodka sev. Or some guys go all Vin Diesel after a coupla Jagermeisters.

But slutty chicks and knuckleheads who get way in over their heads do not, for the most part, start spouting anti-Semitic gibberish.

You're right that the drinkin' has something to do with inhibitions. What those inhibitions were about is what's of note.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: DiabloTX on July 30, 2006, 01:15:05 AM
I read Xtor's post before Skuzzification and what struck me was the supposed "My life is so ****ed." comment my Mad Max.  I find it hard to sympathise with someone who has no want of anykind.  At least no apparent want but wtf do I know.  And the anti-semitism, errr SUPPOSED anti-semitism, well...let's just say it's going to get verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting over the next few days.  I say he writes a big check, errrrrr donation to B'nai B'rith or some such organization.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: rpm on July 30, 2006, 03:12:30 AM
The first report I heard was there was a videotaped blood test. If there was more than one substance, we MAY hear about it. There was suppossedly a cover-up attempt made already. Who knows what may or may not be tainted.

We don't know what motivated the remarks or his attatude. He may have been suffering backlash in the industry for TPOTC and that was what he was talking about. Or, he may just be a racist arse.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Leslie on July 30, 2006, 03:25:31 AM
He's in trouble because of the way he handled the police and for being drunk.  The guy needs help...though I think he was angry about something else and took it out on the cops in a stupid sort of way.  Probably not the best time for him to be pulled over.  He shouldn't have been driving in a condition of anger or intoxication.





Les
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: AWMac on July 30, 2006, 03:44:51 AM
0.12   and they busted him?

Seems to me the Cops just needed the publicity...

Mac
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Gh0stFT on July 30, 2006, 03:51:53 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac
0.12   and they busted him?

Seems to me the Cops just needed the publicity...

Mac


i agree,
and i like him as an actor,
IMHO Passion of the Christ is one of the best movies made ever.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Leslie on July 30, 2006, 04:37:31 AM
I like him too, but here it's 0.08 where they can bust you.  Not sure if they have to, but there's a mandatory low limit where it's automatic.  Police have to, it ain't like the old days where you have a chance to not be arrested because the cop is a good guy and offers options, for example call someone sober to come get you and drive you and the car home.




Les
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Jackal1 on July 30, 2006, 06:47:31 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
because he can kiss movie star life as he knew it goodbye.


 Phhfffffffffft!:rofl
This is just free publicity. It`s Hollyweird.
Some of the best and widely played publicity with movie stars and one that seems to be the IN thing to do to get publicity is checking into a drug rehab.
Mel will do just fine.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: lazs2 on July 30, 2006, 09:17:38 AM
So far as totally whacked out behavior and drug and booze addiction and even dui driving or... even whacked out fights with cops....  this is pretty commonplace for actors...

It is pretty uncommon for them to admit it right away and to actually apologize without some kind of blame game.

contrast that with the behavior and fight with cops of a certain black female congressman and the kennedy driving through the white house anti terrorist barriers drunk as a skunk,

In both cases... it was somebody elses fault until they were absolutely cornerered much later.

lazs
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: mora on July 30, 2006, 10:23:51 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac
0.12   and they busted him?

At that kind of BAC your ability to drive is clearly impaired.
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Sandman on July 30, 2006, 10:34:02 AM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
He's an Australian, you get used to them after a while.


Mel Gibson was born in Peekskill, New York (http://http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000154/bio).
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Chairboy on July 30, 2006, 10:40:29 AM
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Originally posted by Leslie
I like him too, but here it's 0.08 where they can bust you.  Not sure if they have to, but there's a mandatory low limit where it's automatic.  Police have to, it ain't like the old days where you have a chance to not be arrested because the cop is a good guy and offers options, for example call someone sober to come get you and drive you and the car home.
I take it you've never lost anyone to a drunk driver.  Not only have I had friends killed by drunk drivers, but a drunk driver hit me from behind 8 years ago while I was stopped at a red light on my motorcycle.  Every day, I can still feel the injury.

A cop who lets a drunk driver go is no "good guy".
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Bronk on July 30, 2006, 10:42:39 AM
OT:

What really gets me is how some posters...  on one hand like to point out others antisemitism. Then with the other condemn Jews for defending themselves.


As far as Mel goes lazs has it spot on.

Bronk
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Leslie on July 30, 2006, 11:32:45 AM
I'm sorry for your loss Chairboy.  Mel Gibson could have been in an accident if the police hadn't pulled him over and it's good the way things turned out.  Guess the point I was trying to make is Gibson put himself in the situation, and might have been treated better if he hadn't acted like someone who shouldn't be driving at the time.  The policeman was civil to Mel and he blew it.





Les
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Yeager on July 30, 2006, 11:35:59 AM
lol Braveheart is coming after ewe!
Title: Mad Max is Mad...and a Lush
Post by: Maverick on July 30, 2006, 02:08:19 PM
FWIW, the idea that you can't be busted for DUI with less than a .10 or a .08 is bogus. Those particular stats are not the be all and end all of DUI. Those are just legal presumptions of intoxications and do not take into account other factors such as additional intoxicants like drugs. The law justr says that you will be legally considred intoxicated at that BA. The breath test ONLY tests for the presence of alcohol and nothing else. That's why blood tests are done in cases where some other kind of substance is suspected.

The law is written that you can be found guilty of dui (driving under the INFLUENCE not intoxication) if your driving ability is impaired to the SLIGHTEST degree. Not impaired to the max, the slightest degree. It does not take a .10 or .08 to get there. I arrested one female who was falling down (litterely fell down getting out of the cab of her PU) drunk and she blew a .04. She could not complete a single sobriety test to save her life. She admitted to a single glass of wine and that she had never had any alcohol before, but you have to take answers like that with a grain of salt. The most common answer to how much have you had to drink is "2 beers / drinks". The BA she had and her weight was consistent with a single glass of wine. She apparently had no tollerance for it.

Intoxication does not mean only alcohol or illegal drugs but encompasses prescription drugs taken properly under care. There are notes on many of themn saying don't drive or operate machinery. If you do and it impairs you, welcome to the drunk tank waiting for your ride. Prescription drugs are not an excuse any more than it would be a protection from getting into a collision and hurting someone. You can't take it back after you smashed your vehicle into something or someone else.