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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: RELIC on August 01, 2006, 06:02:12 PM
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Got the AMD 4000+ yesterday. Pulled the 3000+ out of the MB and dropped in the 4000 and nothing... System just briefly fired up - maybe for one tenth of a second and then dead. Pulled the 4000 out and replaced the 3000 and she fires right up.
Checked MB compatibility and that shows OK. Cleared cmos and tried again - same thing, briefly starts to fire up and then dead. Reloaded the old 3000 and updated the MB bios. Dropped in the 4000 and same thing. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :mad:
Anyone got any ideas here? I've heard getting a faulty CPU is pretty rare so am I missing something here? All the pins look fine - nothing bent and the box arrived undamaged. The cpu dropped right in - didn't have to apply any pressure. My psu is rated at 480 watts so I doubt that is the problem. I'm at a loss here.
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Check yr bios?
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yep
The "old" bios I had should have been fine and even updated to the newest and no luck.
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Would try an RMA and swap it out with another.
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Mailed it back today.
Thanks for the feedback.
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Relic did you re-paste the cpu with new stuff? If not that could have very well caused your problem. Sounds like a small deal, but its a small step if left out can cause major problems. I know you have sent it back allready, but im figured I would throw it out to ya.
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Originally posted by RELIC
Got the AMD 4000+ yesterday. Pulled the 3000+ out of the MB and dropped in the 4000 and nothing... System just briefly fired up - maybe for one tenth of a second and then dead.
Sounds like exactly what happend to mine when my CPU fried after the cpu fan somehow came off
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Even tho I highly doubt a cpu could reach a temp bringing about failure in less than 1/2 a second - the heatsink fan was attached from the start with arctic silver paste.
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Originally posted by RELIC
Even tho I highly doubt a cpu could reach a temp bringing about failure in less than 1/2 a second - the heatsink fan was attached from the start with arctic silver paste.
no. I ment thats all it would do AFTER the CPU fried.
dont know how long it took as I wasnt home at the time it happened.
Just came home and noticed my old socket A no longer sounded like a shopvac LOL
When I tried to reboot all it would do is the same thing yours was doing
Fan lights would come on, fan would whir for about a secopnd and a half, then it would shut down
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Sorry DREDIOCK, I was responding to PuckIt with that prior post.
I'm pretty sure I must have just got "lucky" and got a bad one. Now I gotta wait another "2 to 4 weeks" for the replacement.
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As I have way to much time in front of a pc I looked up your problem. It seems many people have had the same problem with random cpu's. It seems that most of the results were wrong voltage, no paste, bad CPU. I hope your next one works like a champ!
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Sorry for the bump, but I got the replacement CPU today and it is doing exactly the same thing - fires up ever so briefly and then nothing. :mad:
OK what on earth am I doing wrong here? I simply cannot believe I got TWO bad cpus in a row - but the old 3000+ works like a charm. Anyone got any ideas?
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Hi RELIC,
What is the mobo make and model# (including any revision#) and exact CPU model#'s of both?
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Epox EP-9NDA3+. The revision number on the motherboard box says 2.x
The 3000 cpu # is ADA3000BIBOX and the new cpu is ADA4000BNBOX.
I'm starting to worry I got an early version of this MB that won't support this cpu. :cry
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got enough juice from Power Supply?
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The Approved CPU list from mobo manufacturer says maximum CPU is Newcastle 3500+/3800+. It won't work, sorry.
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Great...
Well now I guess I get to buy a new MB or a diff cpu.
Thanks for the help.
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Relic,
I checked the Epox site and it showed that MB being ok with the 4000+
There is a bios dated 6/16/06 that supports the FX60, you might try updating to that one if you have not already done so.
shamus
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Def do the BIOS update with the working 3000 CPU in it.
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RELIC:
The website info for the motherboard series says "Athlon-64/Athlon-64 FX up to 4000+..."
That is general information for both version 1.x and 2.x; not specific information for each version.
You have a straight Athlon-64, not an FX series, going into a version 2.x board and the limit for yours is as I said above, according to the CPU approved list. It's in the 3rd file bundled in the zip file.
Anyway, don't feel too bad because marketing people make compatibility kind of complicated knowing there is a lot of money to be made from people making mistakes. Case in point would be the other people responding here without checking the approved list. You're lucky you haven't gone out and bought a new power supply, then some new RAM, followed by a new CPU fan and God knows what else may still be suggested... ;)
The lesson is to always check the approved CPU list since it's compiled by the engineers and QA people testing those CPUs.
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First off thanks to everyone who has posted trying to help.
I've got an email to both AMD and Epox so hopefully will know more Monday. After reviewing the Epox website I have the feeling the MB should support this cpu. Now I could be wrong - clearly something ain't right. The Epox site does say Athlon-64/Athlon-64 FX up to 4000+ but the FX series has never been labeled using the "speed" of the cpu. For the 939 socket they are named FX-55, FX-57 and the most current model is the FX-60. So I read that statement to say they do support the 64 models up to 4000+ and also support the FX models. In fact the latest bio notes says it provides support for the FX-60.
The AMD website also says the 4000+ is compatible with the EP-9NDA3+ rev 2.1 and the MB shipping box indicates my rev as 2.x - and it appears there was only one revision of this board, at least that is all I can find on the Epox website.
It just wouldn't make any sense for Epox to support up to the top of the line FX-60 and not support the 4000+ for this board.
I was using the last bios version when I tried the first cpu so I don't think that is the issue but I will try flashing it again and see.
My PSU is a thermaltake 480 watt so I don't think it is the culprit.
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Flashed to the latest bios and still nothing :(
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Relic,
Can't help here but will give you another story. I bought a new kit - cpu and motherboard and decided to use my old 2400+ athlon (not 64) as a replacement for my sister's 2000+ processor. Her motherboard did support it with the same bios. It never worked giving the exact same result you had i.e. system starts for a second then all shuts down. After mutliple switches I gave up and tossed the 2400+.
Never figured it out
Acetnt
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Well I hope I have better luck!