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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: xrtoronto on August 05, 2006, 12:17:23 PM
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A U.S. army deserter who has been living in Toronto for the past two years says he plans to go home and turn himself in next month.
Darrell Anderson, who is legally entitled to stay in Canada, said Friday that he wants to return to the United States to draw attention to war crimes allegedly committed by American soldiers in Iraq.
"I know people that killed prisoners. I know people that killed innocent people. I was ordered to kill innocent people," Anderson told CNN.
He claims he was once ordered to fire on a car filled with innocent civilians when it pulled up to a roadblock. He said he refused, and was later told he did the wrong thing.
Anderson served seven months on the front lines of Baghdad and Najaf, and was awarded a Purple Heart after being wounded by shrapnel.
If he had done another tour in Iraq, Anderson says, he believes he would have committed war crimes himself. "It's the evil that builds inside you," he said.
While home on leave, Anderson fled to Toronto. He got a job and got married to a Canadian, giving him the legal right to stay in Canada.
However, he now says he will surrender to the U.S. military in September. Anderson said he hopes the army will be lenient and consider his record as a soldier and the fact he was wounded.
He also thinks the timing is right to return because of growing anti-war sentiment in the U.S., and because charges have now been laid against American troops who allegedly killed Iraqi civilians.
"I should have done something in Iraq. I should have done something when I got back," he said.
"You can't call me a coward because I fought in the war. You can't call me a coward now because I'm going to prison."
source (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2006/08/04/army-iraq.html)
What do you think the US military will do with this guy?
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They'll make an example of him because we are at war, fullfil you obligations will be the message.
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I wouldn't call him a coward. I'd call him a deserter.
I expect he'll get a trial under the UCMJ.
Now if he had deserted A-Q or Hez, I'd expect him to be beheaded.
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He is a volunteer and a deserter. Court martial him and give him the standard punishment. I recommend he stay in canada with the others.
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Keep him, he's just homesick. He made his bed he can stay in it. If he comes back I hope he likes laboring in Kansas for a long long time then he can go back to Canada without his American citizenship.
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I think his story shows more than a little self deception and self justification. I would never criticise a combat veteran, least of all someone who was wounded. I wouldn't use the word coward either. But I think he needs to acknowledge the real reason he didn't want to go back. He couldn't face it again. His fear was greater than his sense of duty. Simple as that. Everyone has their limits and he reached his. I wouldn't blame him for that. I have no right to. I was never in that situation.
Throwing in red herrings about war crimes and jumping on the anti war bandwagon is common. People always need to justify their actions, put them in a more flattering light. But he knows the truth in his heart of hearts.
I do find it interesting though that he would rather go to jail than continue to live in Canada. I mean Canada is not that bad:D
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Originally posted by cpxxx
I do find it interesting though that he would rather go to jail than continue to live in Canada. I mean Canada is not that bad:D
This just shows that night after night of endless Kraft dinner is a fate worse than prison.
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He wasn't Drafted, he Volunteered. If his purpose was getting a good education he is soon to learn one.
He's a Discrace and a Deserter. You made your bed Son now sleep in it.
Mac
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sounds like he is trolling for some legal help from the lefties because....
He hates in in canada...
lazs
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It must be the Hockey on every channel....
No bet it was the lack of going to the "OutBack" "I want my baby backs, baby backs...."
No Churches Chicken.....or owning a real American car.
Does anyone know what job he had in Cananda?
Bet it was filling out the job forms "Recent Position" Deserter. ..
Well I believe you'll stay with the Company for a long time.....NOT!!! Next!
Mac
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yep... he looks around and notices that the only thing people are talking about is.... the U.S.
lazs
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He's making the same mistake many others have and do, that the rhetoric from the left is any more than just that. He believes his actions will be justified by this rhetoric and that the left will rescue him from his fate. Maybe they'll let him have a blog at Leavenworth. Probably not.
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
A U.S. army deserter who has been living in Toronto for the past two years says he plans to go home and turn himself in next month.
idiot, stay in Toronto! get a wife, make some kids and enjoy live, no
more risking your a** for others or things you know is wrong.
Cant believe what he expect to get in the us, flowers? ;)
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My brother is a canadian citizen who fled the vietnam draft.
He worked extremely hard under harsh conditions and was constantly looking over his shoulder for many years till he got his legal citizenship.
most are not cut out for it. It is too difficult. Most of those he knew if not all of those he knew who had done the same thing.... all ended up back in the U.S.
lazs
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Is your Brother still in Canada ?
Did you ever serve in the Military Lazs1?
Sorry for the personal questions just doing a paper on inherited cowardice and needed some good resources.
Mac
BTW NOT a personal attact, just research.
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Originally posted by AWMac
It must be the Hockey on every channel....
No bet it was the lack of going to the "OutBack" "I want my baby backs, baby backs...."
No Churches Chicken.....or owning a real American car.
Does anyone know what job he had in Cananda?
Bet it was filling out the job forms "Recent Position" Deserter. ..
Well I believe you'll stay with the Company for a long time.....NOT!!! Next!
Mac
What's wrong with hockey (http://www.hockeyfights.com/forums/images/smilies/sports/hockeyplayer.gif)
As for the "Outback", we have plenty of those, but there are better places for a steak
Now if you will excuse me I have to go to my "Talk about the US" meeting, it has a 12 step program :)
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Originally posted by Ripper29
What's wrong with hockey (http://www.hockeyfights.com/forums/images/smilies/sports/hockeyplayer.gif)
As for the "Outback", we have plenty of those, but there are better places for a steak
Now if you will excuse me I have to go to my "Talk about the US" meeting, it has a 12 step program :)
Good for you, it takes baby steps at first, make sure your Sponser is a Beaver and you'll recover well.
:D
Mac
BTW "Baby Backs are not Steak"
I just Love Canadians.
:rofl
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Give him a fair trial, then give him the firing squad.
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Originally posted by AWMac
BTW "Baby Backs are not Steak"
I just Love Canadians.
:rofl
Well yes I am aware that Baby Backs are not steak.....the point I was making is that "The Outback" is a fairly common middle of the road place to eat...sorry that I did not explain that clearer ;)
btw I love Canadians too..and beavers too...:p
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Does anyone else think Outbacks aren't what they used to be? Used to drop in one on the road, or in town for a change of pace, but food doesnt seem to be as good as it was a while back. Maybe it is just me. Certainly are better steakhouses out there.
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I've had good trips and bad trips to outback. Sometimes their steaks are amazing, other times not so good. I'd probably put it at 75/25 good to bad.
But it doesn't compare to the 7 Stars Inn.
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For good steaks, there is Sullivans, Ruth Chris, Mortons of Chicago and Mannys that come to mind.
Had a amazing Rib Eye at a Ruth Chris, comes out on a steel plate heated to 500 degree F, sizzling in butter.
Club Paris in Anchorage serves a 14 oz Filet Mignon that is a meal in itself. Just across the road and down slightly is a Sullivans, another fine chow hall. Ate at both those one week, boss almost choked on my expense account that week. :D
But it was paid. Hey, what is a $65 dollar steak dinner on the expense account, (or two of them).
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got taken to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse on my last b-day and the beef was amazing!
whole dinner was excellent (one of the best):aok
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Originally posted by lazs2
yep... he looks around and notices that the only thing people are talking about is.... the U.S.
lazs
your ignorance never ceases to amaze me
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cpxxx nailed it and I agree. On the other hand, can't be sending a message that this sort of behavior is acceptable from a volunteer. He's going to have to face the music and the truth of the matter is there are specific articles dealing with desertion and none of them mention public sentiment or support.
Sorry, dude!