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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gh0stFT on August 06, 2006, 09:08:28 AM
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Congratualtion to Button for his first win!
Now this was an exiting race, who again where speaking about
F1 dieing ??? hehe
A Wet-Condition Race where the superstars never finished,
just one thing i didnt wanted to see, 2 laps before the end
Schumi out of race :( but this can happen when you race.
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What a race! Congrats to Button and to Pedro De la Rosa, from tester to 2nd place in 3 races :)
Hope McLaren gives him more races.
Daniel
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The best F1 race for long time.
WTG Button!
Too bad the Liuzzi made his sudden slowmo corner exit just front of Kimi...
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Yeah I missed it :( My antenna only started picking up rumours of an exciting race 20 laps from the end.
If all else fails, F1 could race through the winter to make it more exciting.
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
Congratualtion to Button for his first win!
Now this was an exiting race, who again where speaking about
F1 dieing ??? hehe
A Wet-Condition Race where the superstars never finished,
just one thing i didnt wanted to see, 2 laps before the end
Schumi out of race :( but this can happen when you race.
Yes be sure was an exciting race, for a change.
Schumi out of race
Good because he got what he deserved but it would have been interesting what the stewards would have had to say/done.
How about the Polish driver, Robert Kubica, in his 1st F1.
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Recent MotoGP and WorldSuperbike are still more exciting..
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Yes be sure was an exciting race, for a change.
Schumi out of race
Good because he got what he deserved but it would have been interesting what the stewards would have had to say/done.
How about the Polish driver, Robert Kubica, in his 1st F1.
Stewards for what ? he was fighting his 2nd place, what have you expected ? lol
Kubica did ok, he spin a few times but the conditions where not easy.
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Originally posted by moot
Recent MotoGP and WorldSuperbike are still more exciting..
this are motorcycles, but we are talking here about cars,
sorry wrong thread for you, bye.
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:eek:
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When you thought it was over... Kubica has been disqualified after the weighing of the car, so MS finally entered the points.
Daniel
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
Stewards for what ? he was fighting his 2nd place, what have you expected ? lol
him not "eating" three chicanes, for instance?. He did it twice with De La Rosa (and first time he didn't give way to Pedro like he should've done...FIA doesnt' sanction him...well, not unexpected anyway), and one with Heifield?...
Schumacher is not the "cleanest" pilot around and we all know it. No surprise here, Gh0st. He's the best F1 pilot of the history ,but someone who simply kicks the man who was challenging him for the championship out of the last race of the season in order to avoid having to cleanly racing him (a-la-his move against Damon Hill in Australia), is a dirty opponent, no matter how brilliant he is on the weel.
I'm proud of De la Rosa. Magnific race he did.
I'm extremely sorry about Alonso. Starting the 15th, being "cut off" from Schumacher in the first turn after the start, and loading by far the most gasoline than any other car, he came up to the 1st place leaving aside people like Massa or Schumacher himself...he set the pace of the race for 25 turns. He doubled everyone up to the 7th place (including Michael Schumacher), and was on the way to double Barrichello, too, when Kimi had to do his stupid stunt of the month. Sheer brilliance by alonso. This kind of things are like the ones that people like Senna or Mansell did. True legends of this sport. Alonso now ranks with them no matter he wasn't able to finish the race.
Only two facts took victory away from Alonso, neither of them his fault.
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Raikkonen lived to his fame. He's simply worthless, and the way he crashed against Liuzzi is just an instance of a driver who doesn't deserve to be behind a F-1 weel no matter how fast he is.
Safety Car came in at the worse moment possible for Alonso. All the magnificent driving he had done up to that stage was wiped away by the SC. All the time advantage he had achieved, was now gone. And to top it up, Schumacher, who had been doubled and was lagging more and more behind, was able to catch up and win some positions after the SC left and the rain suddenly stopped.
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There's no way a team like Renault deserve to have a champion like Alonso racing for them. Not only Alonso has to fight for the championship alone (if he expects any help from Fisichella he might as well sit down and light up a cigarette while waiting for it to happen), not only their strategy fails time after time and only the outstanding performances from Alonso save the day...
now it seems their engineers have no clue on even how to change even a friggin' tyre without breaking up some joints in the meantime.
Alonso lost a Grand Prix which , had he won it as he deserved, could've put him among the best driver achievements ever, today, because his team doesn't know how to change a tyre.
Way to go Renault...way to go.
The race was magnific. Schumacher today had an amazing ammount of luck (Not going out when he touched with Fisico after losing control on that turn, entering to change the front of the car more or less when he had to enter boxes anyway to refuel, safety car when it most helped him, rain stopping at the best moment, Renault mechanics...being renault mechanics...and to top it off...Kubika disqualified so he wins one point while he has got no santion for not tracing two chicanes...but we all knows what happens between FIA and Ferrari so no surprise here), but he did a very good race anyway given the circumstances.
De la Rosa magnific, as I said.
And well...at least Button finally won a race. Was about time he had good luck for once!!!!. I'm glad for the chap.
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Originally posted by RRAM
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Raikkonen lived to his fame. He's simply worthless, and the way he crashed against Liuzzi is just an instance of a driver who doesn't deserve to be behind a F-1 weel no matter how fast he is.
Hee hee
Go to read what Liuzzi did after his amatuer act in the track...
Ps. put that crack pipe aside:aok
(edit typo)
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Originally posted by Xjazz
Hee hee
Go to read what Liuzzi did after his amatuer act in the track..
I only need to see what happened on the track...
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hey RRAM, you the ram i remember long time ago? if yes, nice to see
you here again :)
You are right in some points, Alonso deserves better, it was laughable
what happened today. But something similar happend in the early '90
to Mansell too, remember?
Kimi made a mistake it can happen to anyone, i wouldn blame him
that much. Same mistake happened Schumacher, he crashed once
into Coulthard in SPA in similar conditions, remember?
I dont agree that Schumacher like you saying "eating three chicanes",
if he wouldnt use the space he would crash with the opponent.
What i see here is, people can't really overtake. Get him before the
curve/chicane and not just half-will 50:50. Get in front of him before
entering the curve!
Kubica has been disqualified? well, not a good start for him in F1
i would say.
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Hey Gh0stFT, yep, same Ram talking here :)
Yep, I remember many other races lost by other pilots by sheer bad luck, but I have to admit that the extraordinary race Alonso was driving today, starting from so far behind the pole position, and with the highest loaded car...to see all that incredible driving by his part torn apart by a team who doesn't know how to properly change a tyre is not bad luck...it's beyond that.
Alonso is single-handedly defending his championship's lead. He has got next to nil help from Fisichella (while we all know Massa drives for Michael, and for Michael only).
He's driving in a car which was very good at the season's start but that renaul hasn't been able to develop as the season went on, to the point that now the Renault is far behind the Ferrari... same story as last year against McLaren.
He has been handicapped by stupid strategy blunders by his team, and now he also has to deal with this...well this thing...
All that while defending his lead against the best F-1 pilot of history in the ,by far, best car and best team of the moment.
Honestly, that Alonso is still 10 points away from Schumacher is just a measure of how GREAT he is. He's a pilot meant to be part of the F-1 legends. If he wins this championship (and I honestly think its VERY difficult he achieves to do it so with the team he's racing for, and given that Schumacher is no Raikkonnen), it will be the first time that it's the pilot alone who wins the championship.
He's simply amazing by doing what he's doing with what the little he's given.
About kimi, its not today's happening only. It's the fact that race after race he shows himself as a helluva fast pilot, but with very little common sense. His "distractions" lost him the championship last year (with hands down the fastest car of the pit). He's simply inconsistent and sometimes downright stupid...and today he did a VERY stupid mistake. Others do similar things one or two times on a whole career. He does it quite more times...
About the chicanes. I can give you that against Heifield, Schumacher had the lead and was right to cross the chicane. not against de La Rosa. On both occasions, de la rosa had won the angle and the right track of the pit. Schumacher was forced to give way on the chicane, or, failing to do so, and crossing it by the middle, let De La Rosa pass after it.
He let de la rosa pass the second time he did it. Not so the first one.
He should've been penalized with a drive-trhough for it, IMO.
And yes, kubika's car was found to be 2kg lighter than the limit given by the FIA after the race. Bad luck for the pilot, who did a pretty good debut in the F-1... but not his fault, but his team's one.
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i watched the race and it was the best for ages.. wtg button,,
MS should be disqualified for his shinanigans...and for his personality.
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I thought I detected a disturbance in the force.
Hi Ram. :)
MS definitely should have been penalized for cutting the track. You can do that only if you don't take advantage, but he used it to hold off Delarosa.
Kimi... destroyed another car, what else is new? It's what he's best at.
Alonso still #1.
F1 needs more rain. Actually F1 needs less grip, whether it's due to rain or not. Lose all the traction control BS too. :aok
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Kimi... destroyed another car, what else is new? It's what he's best at.
I guess he wouldn't be replacing MS in that case? Another? I don't recall him destroying that many. Besides Liuzzi immediately admitted his fault(not to say that it wasn't partially his fault, he said he was going to let De la Rosa past and was looking in his mirrors when Liuzzi decided to slow down in the middle of a corner).
He's one of the top 3 drivers at the moment, hard to compare any better if they don't race in identical cars.
He's definately a great overtaker, fast on qualifying and races. Just do a statistical comparison to previous team mates.
He's not too smooth infront of the camera, but don't let that get infront of facts.
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Originally posted by RRAM
Hey Gh0stFT, yep, same Ram talking here :)
*cough* testing testing... is this on?
*pushes the 'sister' button*...
le'see if this still works :D
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Originally posted by Saintaw
*cough* testing testing... is this on?
*pushes the 'sister' button*...
le'see if this still works :D
:p