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Title: bf109f
Post by: icemaw on August 06, 2006, 02:09:00 PM: my new favorite ride in AH. its the german spit16 a jack of all trades roll rate suffers a bit of coarse but all the 109s do. good speed great climb super on wep that lasts forever good range good firepower. turns well especailly against late model stuff. if i could only get the hang of aiming that spinner cannon. for some reason i have a hard time hitting stuff in 109s and deflection shots forgetaboutit luck at best. great perk farmer!
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Post by: Reynolds on August 06, 2006, 02:13:15 PM: Just remember: Watch that ammo gauge, and dont waste any shots! Im an Emil driver myself, but i use the Fritz when i need that drop-tank.
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Post by: Grits on August 06, 2006, 03:03:24 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
Fritz

Friedrich
Title: bf109f
Post by: Reynolds on August 06, 2006, 03:54:06 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Grits
Friedrich

Fritz is right too. It was changed late in the war, to shorten things, so both are applicable. But nice to see someone else who knows the names!
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Post by: Angus on August 06, 2006, 06:13:59 PM: Yeah, and the 109K is....Konrad :D

No, Karl, nono, Kurt, , just a minute, Kristoff, whatever :D
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Post by: Reynolds on August 07, 2006, 01:23:44 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Angus
Yeah, and the 109K is....Konrad :D

No, Karl, nono, Kurt, , just a minute, Kristoff, whatever :D

Awwww shut up! One mistake... :D

But Fritz really is accepted. You agree, no? Its also Freiderich, which i normally use, but sometimes its too long...
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Post by: MiloMorai on August 07, 2006, 06:24:03 AM: Isn't Fritz the nick for German soldiers?

So Reynolds 'drives' German soldiers. :eek: :eek:

Don't let him get on your 6 guys. :rofl
Title: bf109f
Post by: Angus on August 07, 2006, 07:51:47 AM: Boo-woo, Sucks to you, Fritzie.

(From Blacadder)
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Post by: dragon25 on August 07, 2006, 12:23:34 PM: I to love the 109F4...but it's taking time for me to learn to fight with it...and my gunnery always has been lacking....If there is any 109 pilots /w a minute, please e mail me with your thoughts, tricks, tips, ect.

pilotknight1980@yahoo.com
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 07, 2006, 12:44:41 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
Fritz is right too. It was changed late in the war, to shorten things, so both are applicable. But nice to see someone else who knows the names!

Anton
Bertha
Clara
Dora
Emil
Friedrich
Gustav
Konrad

Those are the names that were given to the 109. "Fritz" was given to the 109 by the Spaniards for the license built 109. "Fritz" was NOT used to identify or call out German manufactured 109's.
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Post by: hubsonfire on August 07, 2006, 01:21:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by MiloMorai
Isn't Fritz the nick for German soldiers?

So Reynolds 'drives' German soldiers. :eek: :eek:

Don't let him get on your 6 guys. :rofl

:lol

Oh, and the Friedrich is a great lil plane. I miss the gondies option, due to my bad gunnery, but it's quite a fun ride. I've heard that the FM changes have had a positive effect on it, but I haven't flown it enough in the last few months to comment.
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Post by: Reynolds on August 07, 2006, 02:46:07 PM: UGH!!! Fritz and Freiderich are the SAME!!!
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Post by: Grits on August 07, 2006, 04:14:29 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
UGH!!! Fritz and Freiderich are the SAME!!!

The names Karaya listed for the 109 subtypes are the official LW designations. For F it was Friedrich, not Franz or Fritz.
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 07, 2006, 06:13:51 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Grits
The names Karaya listed for the 109 subtypes are the official LW designations. For F it was Friedrich, not Franz or Fritz.

:aok my brother!
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Post by: SuperDud on August 07, 2006, 08:15:11 PM: What I find funny is the fact that this guy is giving icemaw advice when ice has already done more than reynolds could hope to do:aok
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Post by: Widewing on August 08, 2006, 12:14:31 AM: Quote
Originally posted by dragon25
I to love the 109F4...but it's taking time for me to learn to fight with it...and my gunnery always has been lacking....If there is any 109 pilots /w a minute, please e mail me with your thoughts, tricks, tips, ect.

pilotknight1980@yahoo.com

Stop by the TA one weeknight. Look for me or Murdr. Either of us can show what the 109F is capable of. You pick any plane, fly against the 109F, then switch planes. This will really show you how capable that little monster is.

While it has some weaknesses, it's strengths are such that a Spit16 driver should avoid a prolonged fight against it... If you can't get angles immediately, disengage and bug out. Trying to out-turn the 109F would be in vain. In fact, it isn't even close. Moreover, the 109F is pretty able in the vertical too.

My regards,

Widewing
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Post by: TankBstr on August 08, 2006, 08:26:13 AM: I've been flying the 109F quite frequently as well. In terms of gunnery, just tap the trigger until you get a positive gun solution. The guns are really not as bad as one might think, possibly due to the close convergence. My best flight I had 4 kills before running out of cannon rounds. I had a 3-kill flight with nearly 100 cannon rounds left but had to bug out due to damage. I'd avoid buffs, as they suck up your ammunition like a sponge. Wings are good targets to hit - especially as your foe foolishly pulls up into the vertical thinking he can outclimb you. A quick squirt, and that sucker will fall right off.
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Post by: Reynolds on August 08, 2006, 12:22:14 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SuperDud
What I find funny is the fact that this guy is giving icemaw advice when ice has already done more than reynolds could hope to do:aok

I am aware of this. However, he may be unfamiliar with this aircraft, and i am simply giving him advice with this particular type based on my experience.
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Post by: Angus on August 09, 2006, 08:30:57 AM: Since this is a 109F thread, I was wondering if anybody has original specs or performance charts of that aircraft.
Have been trying to find stuff on the 109, but the only proper I have is 109G running on 1.42 ata.
109E would be appreciated as well ;)
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 09, 2006, 08:32:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
I am aware of this. However, he may be unfamiliar with this aircraft, and i am simply giving him advice with this particular type based on my experience.

Your "advice" is flawed though.
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 09, 2006, 08:42:54 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Angus
Since this is a 109F thread, I was wondering if anybody has original specs or performance charts of that aircraft.
Have been trying to find stuff on the 109, but the only proper I have is 109G running on 1.42 ata.
109E would be appreciated as well ;)

WEP
top speed: 530kph

Non-WEP
top speed: 505kph

WEP power
boost percent: 9%

Flaps up
Stabilized Speed: 205kph
Radius of Turn: 126m
Turn Rate (deg/sec): 26

Flaps down
Stabilized Speed: 160kph
Radius of Turn: 100m
Turn Rate (deg/sec): 25

1,000ft to 5,000ft: 48s 5,000ft/min
5,000ft to 10,000ft: 63s 4,760ft/min
10,000ft to 15,000ft: 61s 4,920ft/min

Zoom climb
300mph: 3,600ft
400mph: 5,500ft

The above is what I've always gone by. IMO, I find that the F4 climbs faster than the G6.
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Post by: MiloMorai on August 09, 2006, 12:22:14 PM: Best to read this site for 109F data,

http://www.beim-zeugmeister.de/zeugmeister/index.php?id=7&L=1
Title: bf109f
Post by: Furball on August 09, 2006, 02:20:53 PM: its funny...

i was supposed to fight Reynolds today at 1830 GMT, was hoping to see some of that "109 experience", but he didnt show.
Title: bf109f
Post by: MiloMorai on August 09, 2006, 02:24:37 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
its funny...

i was supposed to fight Reynolds today at 1830 GMT, was hoping to see some of that "109 experience", but he didnt show.

Went surfing instead?????

Sharks are less lethal than you Furball, ;)
Title: bf109f
Post by: Furball on August 09, 2006, 02:55:07 PM: LOL :lol

I wish! all i want is to be taught how to fly a 109 properly by reynolds :(
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Post by: E25280 on August 09, 2006, 07:08:37 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
LOL :lol

I wish! all i want is to be taught how to fly a 109 properly by reynolds :(
U R teh Funnay! :rofl
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Post by: Platano on August 10, 2006, 12:52:55 AM: I been flying jugs latley but i love teh 109'z.... was flying 109's for 6 months and then I thought it was time for a change..
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Post by: Reynolds on August 10, 2006, 01:19:04 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
its funny...

i was supposed to fight Reynolds today at 1830 GMT, was hoping to see some of that "109 experience", but he didnt show.

I was there. I left the MA 5 minutes early just to be sure. YOU werent there.
Title: bf109f
Post by: Furball on August 10, 2006, 01:54:15 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
I was there. I left the MA 5 minutes early just to be sure. YOU werent there.

I was there, it seems someone can't tell the time. 1830 GMT means 6:30 PM Greenwich Mean Time. Not 6:30 AM.

time of my private message to you: -

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Title: bf109f
Post by: Reynolds on August 10, 2006, 03:36:58 AM: I know what time it is. and 1830 GMT IS 630 AM for ME!
Title: bf109f
Post by: Reynolds on August 10, 2006, 03:38:07 AM: Oh, and thanks for adding me to you signature! :D

And its not Fritz, its Konrad. :aok
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Post by: Angus on August 10, 2006, 05:58:51 AM: Quote
Originally posted by MiloMorai
Best to read this site for 109F data,

http://www.beim-zeugmeister.de/zeugmeister/index.php?id=7&L=1

Looked through it, THX ;)
It still baffles me though that if the speeds and climbs claimed by the author hold water, the 109F from 1942 outperforms the 109G6 from 1943/44. So why bother with the G ?
Going to the Pilots, they usually refer to the Gustav as faster level and in climb while being more unwieldy.
So, was the top performance of the 109F only reached by some of them or only for a short period of time?
Title: bf109f
Post by: gripen on August 10, 2006, 06:48:37 AM: Hm... pretty much nothing is documented on tests on that site. There is a Rechlin paper which claims about 670km/h from flight tests but condition of the plane nor corrections nor conditions etc. are not documented. Generally Rechlin data during early war was not corrected for compressibility, as an example FW paper giving Rechlin Fw 190 A-5 values has a note that the given speed is not corrected for compressibility. Later Rechlin papers (as and example Fw 190D-9 data) contain practically allways the note if the speed is corrected for compressibility. Generally when the speed was marked as Vw, then it probably was not corrected for compressibility but if it was marked Vwck, it was corrected for compressibility. The error caused by compressibility depends on conditions but at about standard conditions and at FTH it would have been around 20km/h.

Anyway, a Bf 109 F-4 in clean condition was a pretty fast plane, specially if the tested plane was some sort of cleaned up (polished etc.) sample. Other story is if the 1,42ata/2700rpm and was really released for service use. One of the main improvements of the DB 605A over the DB 601E was improved head cooling but it (the 605) was still restricted to 1,30ata/2600rpm until 1944. Again, the site above fails to show direct documentation that the 1,42ata/2700rpm was allowed.

gripen
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Post by: toon on August 10, 2006, 09:24:56 AM: i had the pleasure of witnessing widewing and murdr testing the fraulien.i've found it to increase my pitiful survival rate.my question tho is what is the "best" convergence of the weapons.i usually dont fire until real close d-300, but with the cannon in the nose, whats the difference?
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Post by: TankBstr on August 10, 2006, 09:42:10 AM: Remember, convergence is vertical as well as horizontal. The MG151 does not have an uber-flat trajectory like the Hispanos or the M2 .50s. I have all three weapons converged at 300. For long range, i.e., non-maneuvering targets at d600-800, aim high and tap off cannon rounds. I've had hits at d800 with the cannon, and usually getting hit with a 20mm is enough to get the other guys attention and make him do something stupid like make a tight turn and burn off all his E.
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 10, 2006, 09:49:44 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Angus
Looked through it, THX ;)
It still baffles me though that if the speeds and climbs claimed by the author hold water, the 109F from 1942 outperforms the 109G6 from 1943/44. So why bother with the G ?

This is why Milch loathed Messerschmitt's schmoozing of Hitler.
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Post by: MiloMorai on August 10, 2006, 01:10:43 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
I know what time it is. and 1830 GMT IS 630 AM for ME!

Hawaii is GMT-10.

A converter to help you, http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter.htm
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Post by: Casper1 on August 10, 2006, 01:20:34 PM: I find the 109F burns E awfully fast compared to other 109s...

Also, isnt the Dora a FW identifier for the 190-D9?????? (see above list of names for models)
Title: bf109f
Post by: Masherbrum on August 10, 2006, 01:41:33 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Casper1
Also, isnt the Dora a FW identifier for the 190-D9?????? (see above list of names for models)

They used it for the 109 AND the 190. 109D model production was around 200. But again, the 109D models were known as Doras.

F4 IIRC, was also known by "Franz", but ALOT more as Friedrich.
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Post by: Furball on August 10, 2006, 03:07:25 PM: (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1155240639_tbm.jpg)
Title: bf109f
Post by: Masherbrum on August 10, 2006, 03:31:33 PM: :rofl :lol :cry :rofl :lol :cry

QUAH!
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Post by: Bronk on August 10, 2006, 03:31:44 PM: FILM we demand FILM

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Bronk
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Post by: Furball on August 10, 2006, 03:39:07 PM: nah... that would be a little too mean.

~~reynolds, you are a good sport.~~
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Post by: Angus on August 10, 2006, 03:42:53 PM: Ehhh, Furbie, Maybe I should adapt Reynolds to my little squadron and we have a 2 vs 1 :D
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Post by: Bronk on August 10, 2006, 03:45:18 PM: Furball was there any of this???

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/1bronk1/hahaedit.jpg)

Bronk

Edit: just caught new line in your sig .:rofl :rofl
Title: bf109f
Post by: Furball on August 10, 2006, 03:48:38 PM: None at all. i was very disappointed. Was quite funny seeing the "WTF??" when he saw i was in TBM.
Title: bf109f
Post by: Furball on August 10, 2006, 03:49:18 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Angus
Ehhh, Furbie, Maybe I should adapt Reynolds to my little squadron and we have a 2 vs 1 :D

sure, could be fun, i would give it a go!
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Post by: Bronk on August 10, 2006, 03:50:02 PM: I bet someone got very overconfident. :D

Bronk
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Post by: Bronk on August 10, 2006, 03:50:57 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
sure, could be fun, i would give it a go!

LMAO want a tail gunner for that tbm .:rofl :rofl

Bronk
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Post by: Stang on August 10, 2006, 03:51:42 PM: :eek: :rofl :lol :D :noid :cool:

[SIZE=16]QUAH[/SIZE]z!11!!1

:t
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Post by: Furball on August 10, 2006, 03:51:42 PM: well, gotta give him credit - at least he flies 109 historically and gets shot down a lot :D
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Post by: Stang on August 10, 2006, 03:53:54 PM: LOL
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Post by: gripen on August 10, 2006, 04:21:57 PM: LOL

gripen
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Post by: Angus on August 10, 2006, 06:02:01 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
sure, could be fun, i would give it a go!

Giggle...hehe, I mean you two against me, - of course :D
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Post by: E25280 on August 10, 2006, 06:38:01 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1155240639_tbm.jpg)
I call foul . . . you were supposed to fly an American plane. You clearly have British markings, meaning your turn radius automatically decreased 20% and your weapon leathality increased 32%. Add that to the intentional and well documented porking of all things Luftwaffle, and the outcome was guaranteed. :noid

:rofl :rofl :rofl OK, OK. I couldn't play the straight man after all.
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Post by: Murdr on August 10, 2006, 09:13:11 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
Anton
Bertha
Clara
Dora
Emil
Friedrich
Gustav
Konrad

Those are the names that were given to the 109. "Fritz" was given to the 109 by the Spaniards for the license built 109. "Fritz" was NOT used to identify or call out German manufactured 109's.

The German phonetic code for that time period:
A=Anto
B=Bruno
C=Cäsar
D=Dora
E=Emil
F=Fritz
G=Gustav
source HoHun

It really does not rub me the wrong way when someone calls it the Fritz, when all it litterally means in phonetic is the "F".
Title: bf109f
Post by: Masherbrum on August 10, 2006, 10:08:03 PM: Those that I listed are what the Germans called the 109's. Sorry. That is in NO LESS than 20 books that I have. I didn't even try google. The F is a Friedrich in terms of the 109, NOT Fritz. If one pilot called it a Fritz, I ain't counting it, if you get my drift.
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Post by: MiloMorai on August 10, 2006, 10:22:16 PM: Phonetic Alphabets, http://morsecode.scphillips.com/alphabet.html
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Post by: Murdr on August 10, 2006, 10:34:14 PM: German phonetic alphabet, early 20th century http://www.tu-berlin.de/~gebrauchsanleitung/Buchstab.htm
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Post by: Bruno on August 10, 2006, 10:37:37 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
Those that I listed are what the Germans called the 109's. Sorry. That is in NO LESS than 20 books that I have. I didn't even try google. The F is a Friedrich in terms of the 109, NOT Fritz. If one pilot called it a Fritz, I ain't counting it, if you get my drift.

You all have confused the various phonetic alphabets into some weird hybrid.

F = Friedrich; Fritz is shorthand for Friedrich aka Richard = Dick.
C = Cäsar
K= Kurfürst

Read Hohun's replies here:

Messeschmitt Bf-109, Emil, Gustav and Konrad (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=181299)

Not that it matters, call them what ever you want.
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Post by: Bruno on August 10, 2006, 10:40:30 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Murdr
German phonetic alphabet, early 20th century http://www.tu-berlin.de/~gebrauchsanleitung/Buchstab.htm

It's not that simple. Civilian phonetic alphabits differed from military and each branch had their own version etc...

Check out SES' site here:

Brevity Codes (http://www.gyges.dk/Operational%20brevity%20code.htm)
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Post by: Murdr on August 10, 2006, 10:45:56 PM: Didnt say it was simple. Just that there is a few roots to the term in question, and I could care less which one is used.
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Post by: Reynolds on August 11, 2006, 12:57:32 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Bronk
I bet someone got very overconfident. :D

Bronk

Yeah, I thought i had that TBM fight in the bag. I under-etimated that little plane by FAR!!! Of course ive never flown it without a torpedo, so i still dont know how it handles... anyway, great fight Furball. You ARE the superior pilot. And can you teach me to do THAT with a TBM??? (<--- Not sarcasm)
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Post by: Furball on August 11, 2006, 02:11:54 AM: i just flew it like i did any other plane, i just chose it because i thought it was the worst american plane in the planeset.

reynolds

(btw, you made my sig twice now ;) :t)
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Post by: Platano on August 11, 2006, 02:42:36 AM: LOL that was funny:rofl:rofl..... Reynolds for being a good sport...

Hey furball I've goten my arse kicked by almost every uber AH pilot I can think of....and umm I would like to add you to that list....can we DA??
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Post by: Reynolds on August 11, 2006, 03:19:46 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
i just flew it like i did any other plane, i just chose it because i thought it was the worst american plane in the planeset.

reynolds

(btw, you made my sig twice now ;) :t)

Cool. And your grammar is bad!:p

It should be "being shot down by A TBM"!!! lol :p
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Post by: Edbert on August 11, 2006, 07:15:34 AM: I don't think it is mean to post the film, the populace was widely requesting it, both here and in the other thread. In fact when one gets called to go to the DA to settle an argument the public posting of the film is nearly mandatory. That way we get to see the purses fly from various angles.
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Post by: Bruno on August 11, 2006, 09:34:47 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Murdr
Didnt say it was simple. Just that there is a few roots to the term in question, and I could care less which one is used.

You wrote:

Quote
German phonetic alphabet

That's a simplification whether or not you wrote the word simple...
Title: bf109f
Post by: Masherbrum on August 11, 2006, 09:44:35 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Bruno
You wrote: German Phoenetic Alphabet

That's a simplification whether or not you wrote the word simple...

Yes
Title: bf109f
Post by: Furball on August 11, 2006, 11:06:56 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Edbert
I don't think it is mean to post the film, the populace was widely requesting it, both here and in the other thread. In fact when one gets called to go to the DA to settle an argument the public posting of the film is nearly mandatory. That way we get to see the purses fly from various angles.

up to Reynolds, if he doesn't want it posted here, then i won't...

alternatively, there is nothing stopping you taking it off the squad bbs and pasting the link wherever you like... ;)
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Post by: Edbert1 on August 11, 2006, 11:16:01 AM: lolol...just because I don't think it's mean doesn't mean the moderators don't disagree.
Title: bf109f
Post by: Reynolds on August 11, 2006, 02:29:31 PM: Go ahead Furball. Im actually curious as to how your TBM got behind me! (I wasnt recording)
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Post by: Angus on August 11, 2006, 02:44:39 PM: I guess it was skill :D
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Post by: Reynolds on August 11, 2006, 02:52:50 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Angus
I guess it was skill :D

It was, i just want to see the maneuver. I never saw it, i was too busy wondering if it was like that Ta-152. That the name said TBM from afar, but it was actually something else.
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Post by: Bronk on August 11, 2006, 03:01:10 PM: I'm betting someone got barrel rolled real good.

Bronk
Title: bf109f
Post by: Reynolds on August 11, 2006, 03:24:10 PM: No, it was actually invovling a flat turn.
Title: bf109f
Post by: Furball on August 11, 2006, 03:38:18 PM: Film: http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1155279285_reynolds.zip
Title: bf109f
Post by: Reynolds on August 11, 2006, 04:10:06 PM: :furious :furious :furious ARE YOU GOING TO FIX THE GRAMMAR IN YOUR SIG.?!?:furious :furious :furious

Lol. Hey, how do you convert AH vids to windows media player?
Title: bf109f
Post by: Furball on August 11, 2006, 04:11:13 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
:furious :furious :furious ARE YOU GOING TO FIX THE GRAMMAR IN YOUR SIG.?!?:furious :furious :furious

does it annoy you?
Title: bf109f
Post by: Bronk on August 11, 2006, 04:13:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
:furious :furious :furious ARE YOU GOING TO FIX THE GRAMMAR IN YOUR SIG.?!?:furious :furious :furious

Just as soon as you shoot down his TBM.:D

Bronk
Title: bf109f
Post by: Reynolds on August 11, 2006, 04:18:04 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
does it annoy you?

Yeah, sorta. Dont know why, but it does :D
Title: bf109f
Post by: Furball on August 11, 2006, 04:19:17 PM: then no.
Title: bf109f
Post by: Bronk on August 11, 2006, 04:21:14 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
No, it was actually invovling a flat turn.

LOL after looking at the film you WERE barrel rolled. The initial flat turn was the bait .

Bronk
Title: bf109f
Post by: Vudak on August 11, 2006, 04:33:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
Film: http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1155279285_reynolds.zip

Well, as you said earlier, he did seem to be a good sport...
Title: bf109f
Post by: Angus on August 11, 2006, 04:36:26 PM: Young Reynolds, you put too much emphasis on spelling and aicraft worshipism rather than cunning, skill and ACM.

Me & Furbie will hopefully be helpful.

When are you online...normally at GMT ?
Title: bf109f
Post by: Reynolds on August 11, 2006, 04:54:58 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Angus
Young Reynolds, you put too much emphasis on spelling and aicraft worshipism rather than cunning, skill and ACM.

Me & Furbie will hopefully be helpful.

When are you online...normally at GMT ?

Yeah, i know im a crappy pilot. Im trying, and learning slowly. Im on normally at 1830 GMT everyday. I wont be on until monday though.
Title: bf109f
Post by: Angus on August 12, 2006, 04:00:45 AM: A good start is to fly the whole planeset, to find the strength and weaknesses of them all.
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Post by: Reynolds on August 12, 2006, 04:26:02 AM: Yes. While i havent done this in detail, i have flown every fighter in the game at least once in combat. I find my best fighter in a furball is actually the La-5. No idea why...
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Post by: Angus on August 12, 2006, 06:25:59 AM: LOL, it's fast and agile and has cannons ;)
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Post by: toon on August 12, 2006, 07:41:10 AM: was there really any doubt?lol. ~~reynolds for actually going. btw,not to be mean, just curious, how much time elapsed after the merge?~~
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Post by: Reynolds on August 13, 2006, 01:36:46 AM: Quote
Originally posted by COBA94
was there really any doubt?lol. ~~reynolds for actually going. btw,not to be mean, just curious, how much time elapsed after the merge?~~

~~Very very little. I had my arse handed to me on a stick with THAT one. I did okay on the other two, but i under-estimated that TBM so much... I will NEVER make that mistake again.~~
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Post by: Furball on August 13, 2006, 04:48:03 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
I did okay on the other two

No offence... but the other two were far worse.

The first one i could have hit you before you finished the merge, i decided to wait in case we had a dubious HO situation but if you look i easily had the angle to shoot before you came over the top. You merged wayyy too fast there, all i had to do was a lazy immelman and i still beat you to the top and had the angle.

The last one, you tried to split S down onto me, i actually thought you were AFK or typing at one point so i broke off and asked if you wanted to remerge. Then when i killed you, you just kinda pulled up and stalled for me and made yourself a stationary target.

I don't mean this to put you down or anything, just a few pointers on where you went wrong.
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Post by: Platano on August 13, 2006, 08:18:28 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Platano

Hey furball I've goten my arse kicked by almost every uber AH pilot I can think of....and umm I would like to add you to that list....can we DA??

hmm maybe this didnt get noticed? :confused:
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Post by: Furball on August 13, 2006, 09:27:24 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Platano
hmm maybe this didnt get noticed? :confused:

sorry didnt see that, sure, if you see me on then i will happily go to DA for a few with you.

i am no duelling expert though so dont expect wonders ;)
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Post by: Debonair on August 13, 2006, 03:40:36 PM: OK, i what odds can i get for $$$ on Platano?

zOMG i'm chasing!!!!!1! AZ State over USC & take the points!!1111
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 14, 2006, 08:53:52 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
Yes. While i havent done this in detail, i have flown every fighter in the game at least once in combat. I find my best fighter in a furball is actually the La-5. No idea why...

Try the Spit 5 in a furball. :aok
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Post by: toon on August 14, 2006, 10:50:27 AM: reynolds, did you underestimate the TBM or more possibly furball in the TBM?
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Post by: Reynolds on August 14, 2006, 02:01:20 PM: Quote
Originally posted by COBA94
reynolds, did you underestimate the TBM or more possibly furball in the TBM?

The TBM. I went in entirely expecting to get owned in both of the second fights. I thought i might get him in the 109 vs 109, but i had lost my touch recently. I knew he would get me in the second two though. I just didnt know he would get me so fast!
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Post by: Reynolds on August 14, 2006, 02:02:05 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
Try the Spit 5 in a furball. :aok

I CANNOT fly the spits. I dont know why, i just suck in them. I cant even n00b you to death with one. Sad, isnt it?
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 14, 2006, 02:31:58 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
I CANNOT fly the spits. I dont know why, i just suck in them. I cant even n00b you to death with one. Sad, isnt it?

Hmm. Would you like to go to the DA sometime, I will try and give you some insight on what you may be doing wrong. Your call.
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Post by: Furball on August 14, 2006, 05:47:42 PM: the secret is out. the TBM is the hidden master of the dogfight.

all hail the TBM!
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Post by: Reynolds on August 15, 2006, 02:50:26 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
Hmm. Would you like to go to the DA sometime, I will try and give you some insight on what you may be doing wrong. Your call.

Love to. Always glad to learn! What day and time?
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 15, 2006, 06:08:18 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Reynolds
Love to. Always glad to learn! What day and time?

I'll PM you Reynolds.
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Post by: toon on August 15, 2006, 10:30:07 AM: omg:O
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Post by: Reynolds on August 15, 2006, 02:58:40 PM: Quote
Originally posted by COBA94
omg:O

WHAT?!? :O