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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: macleod01 on August 07, 2006, 10:35:02 AM
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I was reading through the forum the other day when I found a request for a black Hurricane. This gave me an idea and although not at 2c, I made a black Hurri 1. Would appreciate your input on it. It is only my second skin so apologizes in advance if it is terrible. Some screenies.
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and some more
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another
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and again
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and last one
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i guess you used someting like ms paint?
you need to try using photo shop or paintshop pro or gimp that way you can do things in layers and any mistake can easily be changed.
If you havent used ta program like this i would advise u too,i know you can get gimp for free and i know psp9 has something like a 60 day sample use.
I dont like to be negitive but from the screen shots it doesnt look so good the letters are not loking right or the roundels and cant see any panel lines.
what did u use to make this?
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Actually i used Photoshop 5. Its only my second skin so im not surprised to hear that its bad. Things can be easily altered so i'll go back and try the roundels again. The letters were done by hand and not copied so thats why they look wonky and a bit , well, Terrible. Anything else? Panel lines- since its black im not sure how to make the panel lines stand out. Id appreciate help with this
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ok the lettering you should be able to do in photoshop there should be a tool that does letters there is a good site that kev had a link to for all the fonts and you can download markings and roundels.
i think its simmers shop or something http://www.simmerspaintshop.com
something like that.
the panel lines you can get a profile from ahskins then copy it put it on your skin as a different layer and lighten it,then u can use opacity to make it less viable till it looks right
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Keep in mind you are skinning a Hurri I with a historical Hurri IIc paint scheme.
BE500 LK-A is a very well known bird.
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ya, but its just 4 me to fly offline, i thionk a black Hurri 1 would be cool though. Unless anyone knows of any Black Hurri 1's that saw action? If so let me know and I'll alter it
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Roger, I was on that site and I got the font I need. But its a ZIP folder, were do i unzip to?
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Originally posted by macleod01
ya, but its just 4 me to fly offline, i thionk a black Hurri 1 would be cool though. Unless anyone knows of any Black Hurri 1's that saw action? If so let me know and I'll alter it
If you want to take it further and be accurate, here's a well known Black Hurricane I from the same squadron flown by Ian Gleed, the CO of 87 Squadron.
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A photo of the bird in the profile. With the red trim it looks better anyway :)
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Thank you sooo much guppy, I didnt want my entire work to go to waste! I'll buckle down to it right... NOW!
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guppy, any chance of being able to tell me how to get the rgb value for that turquise colour?
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Go here:
http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/colours/markings.html
Grab the photoshop RAF markings set.
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i was meanin on the tail behind the british flag thing.
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guppy, you spoke of BE500. i changed my project hurricane to that. (more common than the other). wondering if you had a close-up of the insignia by his cockpit? i'm not good at research :(. if you can post it thx
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guppy, i got some fonts but How do u put them on, or do you just copy them?
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Originally posted by toadkill
guppy, you spoke of BE500. i changed my project hurricane to that. (more common than the other). wondering if you had a close-up of the insignia by his cockpit? i'm not good at research :(. if you can post it thx
BE500 was also the Squadron Leader's bird for 87 squadron. The insignia in front of the cockpit is the Squadron Leader's pendant. Go to that site
http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/colours/markings.html
Grab the RAF insignia. That's a photoshop file so you can use the S/L pendant from it and size it to fit.
Also keep in mind that on the left side of BE500 the LK-A would have had the LK in front of the roundel not in back like it did on that early Mark I Hurri. So you would read it LK-A on both sides instead of A-LK on the left side.
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Originally posted by macleod01
guppy, i got some fonts but How do u put them on, or do you just copy them?
IF you have fonts, they need to go in your computers font file. Then when you open Photoshop and choose a font, they will be listed. There are a number of RAF fonts available.
http://hans.presto.tripod.com/fonts/stencil5.html
The band on the tail of your Hurri I is the same as the Squadron Leaders Pendant so the colors would be the same as in the photoshop file of RAF markings I posted earlier
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Thanks, gruppy, much appreciated. However a problem has just occured by my own stupidity so i have to start the body from scratch. This delays my timing! Thanks for the help
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Wow... that black HMk1 is waay cool.
*bats her eyelashes at the Skinner team*... Any chance of getting that for online play? :)
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Thats what im attempting schatzi, im a fraction of the size of a hurri 1 fan that u r, soit means im in love with it as well! And I want a black Hurri online!
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guppy, how do u add it to ur text file? You sed puit it in your computer text file. Where is it? And how do I do it?
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go to my computer then control and you should come up with all the different bits look for the fonts and cut and paste in to that folder
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thanks i done that an now im attempting to find it in PS.
Ok ive looked, no sign of it, what will the title be and does it matter if its TT file, caus thats all I can get it to be.
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if you downloaded and installed the right font. as the one im using is the same. it should be titled RAF PW ATH
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ok I cant find it
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Guppy, Im not sure if the insignia by the cockpit is in the RAF set. It has I think Blue, White, Red, White, Blue. I cant find that anywhere in the RAF set
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its the squad leader insignia in hte RAF set
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i'll take your word for it.
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Im well on my way with this Hurri, if only I can get the font to work. Any ideas?
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Thats one cool looking hurricane would love to see that in MA
I'm sure schatzi would be ecstatic to get that little black number with a little red lippy .... ;)
Bruv
~S~
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its coming on well. I need help on getting fonts working though. Help?
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Originally posted by toadkill
if you downloaded and installed the right font.
Any chance of telling me how to install them? In a step by step motion, all the way through. I cant progress with it without this text!
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1. download the font to desktop
2. extract font to desktop
3. open My Computer
4. access c:/windows/fonts
5. copy said font from step 2.
6 paste into location in step 4.
7. access MS Word and look in fonts for RAF PW ATH
8.delete all items pertaining to the font on your desktop
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Originally posted by Bruv119
I'm sure schatzi would be ecstatic to get that little black number with a little red lippy .... ;)
Bruv
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Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssss.
Pretty please? :)
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Well schatzi, only a few more things to do. Mainly the lettering and panels. Then i'll submit it. Its looking good and should be finishd by the end of this week. Hope your happy, but you'll have competition flying it!
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Originally posted by macleod01
Well schatzi, only a few more things to do. Mainly the lettering and panels. Then i'll submit it. Its looking good and should be finishd by the end of this week. Hope your happy, but you'll have competition flying it!
Before you submit it make sure you post new pictures of it from different angles on here. Let the skinners have a look at it and see if they don't have any thoughts. And, of course, give Schatzi something to drool over in the meanwhile :D
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Well I am amazed that I estimated such a large time scale, I have completed it. Or at least completed it before giving it up to the skinners to rip me to shreads. So go on get the knives out and disect it.
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and more
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blah
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again
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gettin the hang of this
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really gettin the hang of it
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but the [IMG] codes
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Last one! Now get criticising! Schatzi! That includes u especially, being a Hurri pilot
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your pictures are too far away. try zooming in (Z) before you use the brackets to bring the camera closer. like this picture
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/toadkill_photos/ahss28-1.jpg)
also. your fuselage roundels are way to big, as is the coding.
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The coding and the roundels are larger than usual in the photo guppy provided. Maybe its just my interpretation. I'll fix it right away Is yours the same version as im trying to do?
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other side
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and at an angle!
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hmmmmmm *drooooooooool*
I just compared the side view to Guppys pic. This is what i noticed
- tail marking: the white and blue stripe look too wide. that cuts off the upper forward corner of the white stripe
- roundel looks a tiny bit too small now, the letters good. (roundel is a tad bigger then those)
I wish i had your patience. Id go stirr crazy skinning a plane i think! >>S<<
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Woala schatzi! Alterations made, feel free to continue criticising. Im wanting this in the game!
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another for you
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last 1
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I feel bad being so picky, but you asked..... so, here goes:
This is what i meant with the tail markings: (i overlayed the image from Guppy)
(http://www.slowcat.de/slowcats1/films/tail.jpg)
those vertical Red, White and Blue stripes. The red needs to be larger, the white and blue thinner. as you can see, the upper frontal (left) of the white stripe just touches the edge of the stab. In your skin the corner is cut off.
Also, i think the roundel could be a larger still (lower edge of letters and roundel arent on the same height, roundel goes "under the belly" a bit) - moving the L and K a bit tailwards.
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another attempt. And schatzi dont feel bad and nickpicking. I find it extremely helpful
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and the other side
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on the right side of the plane. the coding should still read A*LK. not LK*A
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as in the A at the tail?
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Nope the letters are correct for that particular bird. Don't change them. It's different on the 87 IIC
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bril thot so guppy. Whats ur opinion?
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my appologies on that. most other birds (that i have seen) were like that.
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so any other adjustments or should i submit it?
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Just a question on the resolution....
I assumed that your ingame res made the image blurry, but now i noticed that the line between red and white at the tail is sharp, but the white/blue edge is blurry, same for the horizontal stripes.
Also, the roundel on the wing... the blue looks spottet with black. is that pixelated dark blue or intentional?
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I believe its because I zoomed in, during play it looks fine. It does
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You've got dithering on the black and the blue roundels. You might try using bright or using the "best" option for dithering. I think some of the shapes need to be "crisper" -- try setting to 1024 resolution and test offline to see if they are.
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doesnt make any differance
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It should. You're setting it to 8-bit when you index the file?
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yup, Thats when it gets dotted or dithering. Im not sure why that is happening, but i sure wish I cud fix it. Its annoying me, and I suppose that HTC wont accept it if its dithered.
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ok its been a while, so im making a decision. If no one replys to this post giving me improvments, I will submit.
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Skin submitted! Waiting for feedback
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i think mac, before you get your hoped up, it may not be accepted. in my opinion, it needs to be less 'black', so that you can actually see the colour and the details, and it needs to be more textured, it shouldn't all be a block colour. another thing to work on is improving the panel lines and rivets.
all this is coming from me though, i tried my hand at skinning and failed badly the first time, and gave up the second time round, so don't take my words too seriously :)
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ok, thanks biggles. I'll wait for the word back from HTC about wither it has been accepted
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Been a while now, but still no word from HT saying wither it has been accepted or declined. Anybody know what this means?
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Cant see panel lines try making black a dark grey.
Stop posting every time you post a(n) img do (http:// [url]http://www.woowoo.com/woowoo.jpg[/url] )
(http:// [url]http://www.woowoo.com/woowoo2.jpg[/url] ) so on so on...
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what program are u guys using to do this???? i need help LOL:p
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I use Adobe photoshop, some use Paintshop Pro, others use a free program called Gimp. Dont ask which one's best, im not sure. You need a program that can support layers though, that much is certain.
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Originally posted by macleod01
I use Adobe photoshop, some use Paintshop Pro, others use a free program called Gimp. Dont ask which one's best, im not sure. You need a program that can support layers though, that much is certain.
Means their to busy to add skins:D :t
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Your skin looking like child with the crayon makes it. Very nice and culturally enhanced. :O