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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: BGBMAW on August 07, 2006, 12:29:27 PM
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this is the crap we are dealing with on a daily basis...they are doctoring photos to make it look worse then it is....disgusting
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3286966,00.htmlReuters admits altering Beirut photo
The photograph showed two very heavy plumes of black smoke billowing from buildings in Beirut after an Air Force attack on the Lebanese capital. Reuters has since withdrawn the photograph from its website, along a message admitting that the image was distorted, and an apology to editors.
We have a 5th column in this country..and others liek England(BBC) ect that are willingly trying to undermine the country itself
Are they so retarded they think they are "helping" th eWestern countries be more"cultured"...Or do they understand...the same people they are giving Positive Propaganda to would not hesittate to LOP off there puny Linguini Spinned Limp wristed ways?
The people in here and across the world who say...Hezzbollah-Iran-Syria ect.."may" want to kill anyone whos not them...or...That we just need to "understand" them is a danger to our lives and should be locked up in a siberian labor camp
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3286966,00.htmlReuters admits altering Beirut photo
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someone , maybe lenin, said the USA could not be defeated from outside, it will be defeated from within, lenin was right.
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=184381
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What does that picture have to do with the USA?
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Proof that USA blindly supports the Zionists and will cause you more problems in the future...
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Originally posted by john9001
someone , maybe lenin, said the USA could not be defeated from outside, it will be defeated from within, lenin was right.
I thought Allen Dulles said it about USSR.
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Originally posted by Boroda
I thought Allen Dulles said it about USSR.
no, no, dulles banged his shoe on the podium at the UN and said"we will bury you".:rolleyes:
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Er....Reuters hasn't admitted they altered it. They accept the photo was altered but they're claiming it was done by the photographer who submitted it.
Typing it twice in big bold letters doesn't make it true.
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Originally posted by tikky
Proof that USA blindly supports the Zionists and will cause you more problems in the future...
Lol... The Jewish question, answered once again.
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Originally posted by Trikky
Er....Reuters hasn't admitted they altered it. They accept the photo was altered but they're claiming it was done by the photographer who submitted it.
Indeed, it wasn't Reuter's fault and it's unlikely they altered the photos. The photographer is a freelancer and not on regular pay role, which might be the reason why hes altered some photos to be more appealing to the potential buyers. The photographer has claimed that he was using cloning technique to clean some crap (caused by dust on a sensor/lens) from the pictures. The cloning technique is a normal method of cleaning sensor dust from a picture, but the purpose is NOT to replace a dust particle against a blue sky by cloning smoke on top of it :D
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Reuters retracts article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13165165/)
Updated: 9:52 a.m. MT Aug 7, 2006
LONDON - Reuters, the global news and information agency, told a freelance Lebanese photographer on Sunday it would not use any more of his pictures after he doctored an image of the aftermath of an Israeli air strike on Beirut.
The photograph by Adnan Hajj, which was available for publishing on Saturday, showed thick black smoke rising above buildings in the Lebanese capital after an Israeli air raid in the war with the *****e Islamic group Hezbollah, now in its fourth week.
MSNBC.com was not among the news publications that ran the photo when it was first offered.
Reuters withdrew the doctored image Sunday and replaced it with the unaltered photograph after several news blogs said it had been manipulated using Photoshop software to show more smoke.
Reuters has strict standards of accuracy that bar the manipulation of images in ways that mislead the viewer.
“The photographer has denied deliberately attempting to manipulate the image, saying that he was trying to remove dust marks and that he made mistakes due to the bad lighting conditions he was working under,” said Moira Whittle, the head of public relations for Reuters.
“This represents a serious breach of Reuters’ standards and we shall not be accepting or using pictures taken by him,” Whittle said in a statement issued in London.
Hajj worked for Reuters as a non-staff freelance, or contributing photographer, from 1993 until 2003 and again since April 2005.
He was among several photographers from the main international news agencies whose images of a dead child being held up by a rescuer in the village of Qana, south Lebanon, after an Israeli air strike on July 30 have been challenged by blogs critical of the mainstream media’s coverage of the Middle East conflict.
Reuters and other news organizations reviewed those images and have all rejected allegations that the photographs were staged.
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No offense BGBMAW, I'm suprised by your suprise. Anybody willing to open their eyes should know the media has it's own agenda. Truth be damned.
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no off4ense taken..
Im just pointing out the FEW times they get called on it by other "
media"
its rare it printed ...but common for them to print lies
some of us know its rampant...some think Hezzbollah/Iran/Syria "just" want land
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
hesittate to LOP off there puny Linguini Spinned Limp wristed ways?
Kudos for learning to spell linguini.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Kudos for learning to spell linguini.
Well his War Record speaks for itself......
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Originally posted by Neubob
Lol... The Jewish question, answered once again.
not the Jewish one, the zionist one.
plently of jews don't like Israel & plently of jew haters love it:noid :noid :noid :noid
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Originally posted by Debonair
not the Jewish one, the zionist one.
plently of jews don't like Israel
:huh :huh :huh :noid
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Linguini = Freedom pasta?
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perfect...trap is sprung
limp wristed linguini spinned liberals all chime in
im sure this will be edited soon...you cant say liberal in here any more
Liberalism is a mental disorder....proven daily
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Originally posted by Debonair
not the Jewish one, the zionist one.
plently of jews don't like Israel & plently of jew haters love it:noid :noid :noid :noid
I'm not attempting to account for the idiot population. Plenty of Jews also vote democrat every year like its part of keeping kosher. Israel is more than just a symbol or a hot-button topic to me, and I'm far from alone.
But, out of morbid curiousity, I'm wondering... Let's say you get what you want and the nation is somehow disbanded... What do you do with the people, where do you move them? Moreover, what do you do with the industries and social developments they've nurtured into existence over the course of their short history? Just give it to the Arabs to do with as they please? Or do you simply force popular integration and sit back to watch the fireworks?
I'm very excited to hear about the options.
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"This is the scum USA deals with"
What does that mean? Does US have operations in Lebanon?
The picture was of Israel strike in Beirut so what does it have to do with US?
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One thing you guys need to understand about Reuters. They are like AP and UPI. The reporters and photographers are independant contractors. Having said that, their editor's should have done a better job.
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its plain to see the editors are part of the scum factor
You must have an impecable eye for detail if you are in that position...well unless you are a limp wristed linguini spinned.....
and charge..if you really dont think ..which is what it sounds like...that USA has nothing involved over there...well Hitech says it best....clueless dolt
Im not going to help you out and teach you BASIC Geo-political class..Maybe its time to start reading some basic history books
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you are going to teach?
hehehe...
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Mediawise, the National Enquirer is going up the totem pole for accurate reporting. :)
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Originally posted by Neubob
I'm not attempting to account for the idiot population. Plenty of Jews also vote democrat every year like its part of keeping kosher. Israel is more than just a symbol or a hot-button topic to me, and I'm far from alone.
But, out of morbid curiousity, I'm wondering... Let's say you get what you want and the nation is somehow disbanded... What do you do with the people, where do you move them? Moreover, what do you do with the industries and social developments they've nurtured into existence over the course of their short history? Just give it to the Arabs to do with as they please? Or do you simply force popular integration and sit back to watch the fireworks?
I'm very excited to hear about the options.
if Israel was all that they'd have built the temple by now.
Originally posted by Neubob
Everyone who doesn't think & vote exactly like me is a retard
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
this is the crap we are dealing with on a daily basis...they are doctoring photos to make it look worse then it is....disgusting
What this photo has to do with the USA is beyond me, but its allready been said here, if you have any sources to your "daily basis" claim then feel free to post it. Give us some more examples. Examples from the western press.
In the meanwhile i will just use the old and catchy prhase of "Where is the WMD". Doctoring? well, we will never know if the WMD reason to hit Iraq was doctored or not. But there clearly where NO evidence at all pointing towards Saddam/Iraq having WMD at that point of time.
Thats an mighty high horse your sitting on there.
Also it is very well know out there in the real world, that you shouldnt trust any media 100%, the news show footage you are watching are quite often filmed years ago, and in some cases they have goofed up and showed the same clip but describing two different incidents.
Dont belive the hype. The cheering and dancing arabicwoman they filmed and aired across the world after the WTC attacks, were given free cake to cheer and dance by the western news team. Just because they needed some footage of it. Im not saying that the WTC attacks was not celibrated in the arabic countries, they were, but the evidence of it was...... Manufactured.
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Lesson number 1
Vote (http://195.90.120.51/gameBushAndKerry.html)
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Originally posted by tikky
Proof that USA blindly supports the Zionists and will cause you more problems in the future...
I've been wondering for decades if our Ally (Israel) is worth the headache. This column says it better than I ever could...
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Israel's Lost Moment
By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, August 4, 2006; A17
Israel's war with Hezbollah is a war to secure its northern border, to defeat a terrorist militia bent on Israel's destruction, to restore Israeli deterrence in the age of the missile. But even more is at stake. Israel's leaders do not seem to understand how ruinous a military failure in Lebanon would be to its relationship with America, Israel's most vital lifeline.
For decades there has been a debate in the United States over Israel's strategic value. At critical moments in the past, Israel has indeed shown its value. In 1970 Israeli military moves against Syria saved King Hussein and the moderate pro-American Hashemite monarchy of Jordan. In 1982 American-made Israeli fighters engaged the Syrian air force, shooting down 86 MiGs in one week without a single loss, revealing a shocking Soviet technological backwardness that dealt a major blow to Soviet prestige abroad and self-confidence among its elites at home (including Politburo member Mikhail Gorbachev).
But that was decades ago. The question, as always, is: What have you done for me lately? There is fierce debate in the United States about whether, in the post-Sept. 11 world, Israel is a net asset or liability. Hezbollah's unprovoked attack on July 12 provided Israel the extraordinary opportunity to demonstrate its utility by making a major contribution to America's war on terrorism.
America's green light for Israel to defend itself is seen as a favor to Israel. But that is a tendentious, misleadingly partial analysis. The green light -- indeed, the encouragement -- is also an act of clear self-interest. America wants, America needs, a decisive Hezbollah defeat.
Unlike many of the other terrorist groups in the Middle East, Hezbollah is a serious enemy of the United States. In 1983 it massacred 241 American servicemen. Except for al-Qaeda, it has killed more Americans than any other terror organization.
More important, it is today the leading edge of an aggressive, nuclear-hungry Iran. Hezbollah is a wholly owned Iranian subsidiary. Its mission is to extend the Islamic Revolution's influence into Lebanon and Palestine, destabilize any Arab-Israeli peace, and advance an Islamist *****e ascendancy, led and controlled by Iran, throughout the Levant.
America finds itself at war with radical Islam, a two-churched monster: Sunni al-Qaeda is now being challenged by *****e Iran for primacy in its epic confrontation with the infidel West. With al-Qaeda in decline, Iran is on the march. It is intervening through proxies throughout the Arab world -- Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Palestine, Moqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army in Iraq -- to subvert modernizing, Western-oriented Arab governments and bring these territories under Iranian hegemony. Its nuclear ambitions would secure these advances and give it an overwhelming preponderance of power over the Arabs and an absolute deterrent against serious counteractions by the United States, Israel or any other rival.
The moderate pro-Western Arabs understand this very clearly. Which is why Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan immediately came out against Hezbollah and privately urged the United States to let Israel take down that organization. They know that Hezbollah is fighting Iran's proxy war not only against Israel but also against them and, more generally, against the United States and the West.
Hence Israel's rare opportunity to demonstrate what it can do for its great American patron. The defeat of Hezbollah would be a huge loss for Iran, both psychologically and strategically. Iran would lose its foothold in Lebanon. It would lose its major means to destabilize and inject itself into the heart of the Middle East. It would be shown to have vastly overreached in trying to establish itself as the regional superpower.
The United States has gone far out on a limb to allow Israel to win and for all this to happen. It has counted on Israel's ability to do the job. It has been disappointed. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has provided unsteady and uncertain leadership. Foolishly relying on air power alone, he denied his generals the ground offensive they wanted, only to reverse himself later. He has allowed his war cabinet meetings to become fully public through the kind of leaks no serious wartime leadership would ever countenance. Divisive cabinet debates are broadcast to the world, as was Olmert's own complaint that "I'm tired. I didn't sleep at all last night" (Haaretz, July 28). Hardly the stuff to instill Churchillian confidence.
His search for victory on the cheap has jeopardized not just the Lebanon operation but America's confidence in Israel as well. That confidence -- and the relationship it reinforces -- is as important to Israel's survival as its own army. The tremulous Olmert seems not to have a clue.
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"For decades there has been a debate in the United States over Israel's strategic value'
strategic value? your talking about people's lives here.
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Originally posted by Debonair
if Israel was all that they'd have built the temple by now.
Thanks for answering my question... You've presented many thoughtful, feasible options for the Jews to think about.
And in regards to your act of micro-defamation, no, I don't think that people that disagree with me are 'retards'. They may be retards, however, if they continue to vote and think the way they always have, blind to new developements. I've changed my political stance often enough--and it rarely coincides compeltely with any party agendas. I don't ask that everyone agree with me. Asking them to consider the consequences instead of just checking the box next to the same party their parents checked, is, by definition, an absence of thought.
Next time you post a response, if you choose to, try to do it with a calm head. Your anger doesn't add any intellect to your thoughts.
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" This is the Scum USA deals with
this is the crap we are dealing with on a daily basis...they are doctoring photos to make it look worse then it is....disgusting"
example please.
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Originally posted by john9001
strategic value? your talking about people's lives here.
zOMG!!1 what about teh children:O :O :O
Originally posted by Neubob
Everyone who doesn't think & vote exactly like me is an angry retard
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Okay, Debonair, you win....
Originally posted by Debonair
I am a smug and brilliant philosopher who, instead of conversing, can masterfully slay his opponent with silly quotes and emoticons.
:furious :furious :furious :noid :noid :noid :O :O :t :t
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OMFG its ON!!!!
1st i will soften u up with a couple o':mad: :mad: ...
dont look now, here comes the air cav up ur left BBS flank:noid :noid :noid
and now the heavy stuff:furious :furious :furious
the coup de grace
(http://www.haxed.co.uk/cms/uploads/pics/giant_rolleyes.gif)(http://www.haxed.co.uk/cms/uploads/pics/giant_rolleyes.gif)
u R teh pwnd
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"and charge..if you really dont think ..which is what it sounds like...that USA has nothing involved over there...well Hitech says it best....clueless dolt
Im not going to help you out and teach you BASIC Geo-political class..Maybe its time to start reading some basic history books"
You are most helpful BGBMAW. THANK YOU!
However Edberts post is somewhat more informative and presents nice analysis of the interest US actually has in Middle East and Israel. :aok
In the text is also mentioned the prestige value of Israel's success in war with US equipment against Arabs using Russian equipment which provided valuable data for them, too, about the relative performance of weapon technologies.
But there is something missing still...
"strategic value? your talking about people's lives here."
John, its politics, and despite the thin surface of humane values it is, after all, only politics.
UN exists because it is not supposed to be political formation but you see how it lacks influence because of selfish political aspirations of the nations in it. It's just better to skip the negotiations and act in force and settle it later on. Or thats how it just goes now.
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Lol, Debonair, and I was just about to pass you off as humorless.
I'll respond with a modest :rolleyes:
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Big fat hairy ****ing deal...
This isn't part of a media conspiracy. It's one man trying to make his photo better than it actually was.
The media is waving their arms and shouting because they see it as a threat to their credibility. Everyone else is waving their arms and shouting because the media is waving their arms and shouting.
****ing lemmings.
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Originally posted by mipoikel
Lesson number 1
Vote (http://195.90.120.51/gameBushAndKerry.html)
Brought to you by the same folks that insist every vote must count.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/03/court-forces-delay-to-stay-on-ballot/
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To answer the initial post,if the scum the US had to deal with where all photographer my guess is you would have a rathe smaller army.
Semper Logical !
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Originally posted by straffo
To answer the initial post,if the scum the US had to deal with where all photographer my guess is you would have a rathe smaller army.
Semper Logical !
Never underestimate the power of propaganda.
Or the dark side of the force. ;)
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Israel and the PLO deserve each other.
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5- Flamebaiting, trolling, or posting to incite or annoy is not allowed.
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Originally posted by Eagler
already posted here
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=184381
No, already posted HERE (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=184337) :)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Kudos for learning to spell linguini.
It only took 3 years or so. :aok
For his next trick, he'll learn how to spell spined.
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I bet it was a warez version of Photoshop...
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1)CNN --- Tailwind
http://www.fair.org/extra/9808/tailwind.html
2) New York Times --- jason Blair..ect ect
http://www.trueorigin.org/kansas7.asp
3) CNN --- Peter Arnett
http://www.brookesnews.com/030104arnett.html
there are just 3 ..but those will provide you plenty of HATE AMERICA writings
Typical linguini spines'
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Originally posted by Saintaw
you are going to teach?
hehehe...
Someone has to educate the latest class of idiots and knee-jerk reactionaries.
ack-ack
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if you dont know the history..your bound to repeat it..
If you dont know what these crap news companies have lied about..you will beleive what they say again
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Here's a slideshow exposing some of the propaganda we've seen and who is propagating it.
http://aish.com/jewishissues/mediaobjectivity/Photo_Fraud_in_Lebanon.asp
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I posted this on another related thread:
Happens on all sides!!!
CNN and Fox are no different, and their supposed 'credibility' almost makes them the worst.
Outfoxed is a really good documentary:
http://www.informationclearinghouse...article7798.htm
Spin is also excellent:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...181953466797353
direct from the tulips mouth
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Originally posted by 68Hawk
I posted this on another related thread:
Happens on all sides!!!
CNN and Fox are no different, and their supposed 'credibility' almost makes them the worst.
Outfoxed is a really good documentary:
http://www.informationclearinghouse...article7798.htm
Spin is also excellent:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...181953466797353
direct from the tulips mouth
Your links are dead. I haven't thought of CNN as being credible for a long time.
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Originally posted by lukster
Your links are dead. I haven't thought of CNN as being credible for a long time.
Only the lefties beleive anything from the Ted Turner global network, they are roughly equal with Al Jazeera in my opinion. Of course the reverse is also true of FoxNews. Sadly I cannot think of a single mainstream news source that is truly objective, I prefer to hear the radicalized news from CNN and Fox and try to find the truth somewhere in between. Of course that assumes there is such athing as "truth" to begin with in issues like Lebanon and the GWOT. At times I say to hell with the truth, it is us against them now, and at least I do know which side is "us".
Sorry, I'm getting far too cynical for my age lately, I'm just disgusted with the state of humanity (lack thereof really) outside of the western-democracies.
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Sorry these should work
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7798.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7344181953466797353&q=video+spin
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Some examples of western-media bias in the Lebanon affair:
link1 (http://newsbusters.org/node/6941)
link2 (http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/08/two_new_media_b.html)
link3 (http://newsbusters.org/node/6956)
link4 (http://www.timeswatch.org/articles/2006/20060810130748.aspx
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link5 (http://newsbusters.org/node/6955)
(please note, I am not claiming that any of these sites are themselves unbiased, just using their investigative reporting to show that neither are the ones who claim to be, including FoxNews)
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lOLO
edbert..one of those links was great
Supposed "civilian " causalty..."body " covered by a carpet as soem lebaonese got rid of...Only to be takn another Photo..with the carpet pulled back...it was a LLama's leg...LOLOLOL
The IDF was using them to carry packs....
Great work that guy has doen exposing BS photos and the people who supply them
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/08/two_new_media_b.html