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Title: WW3 poll
Post by: ~Caligula~ on August 10, 2006, 10:20:35 AM
how many of you belive that ww3 has already started and matters should be treated that way?
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Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 10, 2006, 10:34:11 AM
You probably
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Post by: Sandman on August 10, 2006, 11:00:09 AM
No.
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Post by: T0J0 on August 10, 2006, 11:05:21 AM
Started in 1979....
But I suspect it was 1972 at the Olympics....

TJ
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Post by: Eagler on August 10, 2006, 11:08:49 AM
Some don't think there’s even a threat let alone a war let alone a global war on terrorism
Given the fact that the "war" against terrorism IS occurring on several continents, in multiple countries it is in fact a global/world war. Since this is the third such war, it is ww3 regardless if everyone sees it as such or not..

I'm sure there were those during the first two that did not see them for what they were while they were happening either
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Post by: Yeager on August 10, 2006, 11:14:37 AM
yep.  Been going since 1948 but since the arabs cant seem to get a decent fight going they have resorted to whimp terror tactics.  Eventually some idiot terrorist will do enough damage that the west reacts with such overwhelming force that there arent any fanatic moslims left, or at least not enough to bother with.
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Post by: lukster on August 10, 2006, 11:14:43 AM
If you're asking do we believe the current fighting in Lebanon will escalate beyond the borders of Israel and Lebanon my answer is that no one knows but I think it's less than probable at this point.

I do believe that there is war brewing in the world that will likely engulf us all without a significant change in course.
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Post by: BTAirsol on August 10, 2006, 11:15:37 AM
It started when Iran took our people hostage at the U.S. embassey in Iran in the 1970's.
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Post by: GtoRA2 on August 10, 2006, 11:16:36 AM
Not even close.
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Post by: Seagoon on August 10, 2006, 11:22:17 AM
Hi Caligula,

I'm probably going to disappoint, but I think that the current conflict we are in is simply a continuation of the struggle that began with the birth of Islam in 611 AD.

Islam was expanding from the 7th through 16th centuries, went through a period of reversal and western domination in the 17th through mid-20th centuries, but has once again shaken off foriegn control and is undergoing a period of aggressive expansion once again.

"World War" would seem to imply a relatively quick military conflict between world powers with conflicting political aims. What we are dealing with at present is a continuing struggle against a worldview that aims to supersede and eliminate all other worldviews, and one which cannot be finally resolved by force of arms.

As such, I think it is an entirely different kettle of fish from World War One and Two.

- SEAGOON
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Post by: bj229r on August 10, 2006, 11:30:00 AM
If it can be proved that the August 22 'event' which Ahmadinejad spoke of was the airline plot which was stomped today in Britain, then Iran can expect to be destroyed.
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Post by: ~Caligula~ on August 10, 2006, 11:41:25 AM
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Originally posted by Seagoon
Hi Caligula,

I'm probably going to disappoint, but I think that the current conflict we are in is simply a continuation of the struggle that began with the birth of Islam in 611 AD.

Islam was expanding from the 7th through 16th centuries, went through a period of reversal and western domination in the 17th through mid-20th centuries, but has once again shaken off foriegn control and is undergoing a period of aggressive expansion once again.

"World War" would seem to imply a relatively quick military conflict between world powers with conflicting political aims. What we are dealing with at present is a continuing struggle against a worldview that aims to supersede and eliminate all other worldviews, and one which cannot be finally resolved by force of arms.

As such, I think it is an entirely different kettle of fish from World War One and Two.

- SEAGOON


i think you`re absolutelly right.
the only solution i can see is the end of dependence on oil, so the arabs won`t get free cash to found terror and get back to camel hurding.
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Post by: Rolex on August 10, 2006, 11:55:37 AM
No.

If your country attacks Syria, that could escalate quickly to something that will have the rest of the world glued to their TVs in disbelief.
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Post by: Furball on August 10, 2006, 12:02:03 PM
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
i think you`re absolutelly right.
the only solution i can see is the end of dependence on oil, so the arabs won`t get free cash to found terror and get back to camel hurding.


:rofl :aok
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Post by: lukster on August 10, 2006, 12:12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Rolex
No.

If your country attacks Syria, that could escalate quickly to something that will have the rest of the world glued to their TVs in disbelief.


My sentiment wouldn't be one of disbelief, Syria being the primary supplier of Hezbollah and all. It would be more of an oh s***, here we go.
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Post by: ~Caligula~ on August 10, 2006, 12:21:08 PM
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Originally posted by Rolex
No.

If your country attacks Syria, that could escalate quickly to something that will have the rest of the world glued to their TVs in disbelief.


that won`t happen
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Post by: Iceman24 on August 10, 2006, 12:23:17 PM
"Syria being the primary supplier of Hezbollah"

I watched a show a few nights ago on history or discovery channel that said Columbia was the primary country for these punks saying that 75% of the army and police were all members of Hezbollah or some other terrorist group. And that the major cartel leaders hire them as private armies and security. Basically it was saying that Comlumbia actually funnels more money to the terrorist groups than any other country, including the mid east countries. At first I didn't really believe it but after thinking about it for a while it makes sense as its nearly impossible to track all that drug money and theres allot of it in Columbia :)
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Post by: lukster on August 10, 2006, 12:42:03 PM
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Originally posted by Iceman24
"Syria being the primary supplier of Hezbollah"

I watched a show a few nights ago on history or discovery channel that said Columbia was the primary country for these punks saying that 75% of the army and police were all members of Hezbollah or some other terrorist group. And that the major cartel leaders hire them as private armies and security. Basically it was saying that Comlumbia actually funnels more money to the terrorist groups than any other country, including the mid east countries. At first I didn't really believe it but after thinking about it for a while it makes sense as its nearly impossible to track all that drug money and theres allot of it in Columbia :)


I can't deny it but what would the drug cartel have to gain from the destruction of the west or the US in particular? Wouldn't that pretty much put an end to much of their drug trade?
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Post by: Russian on August 10, 2006, 12:44:18 PM
Nope....with nukes it will not happen.
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Post by: Elfie on August 10, 2006, 12:50:04 PM
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
i think you`re absolutelly right.
the only solution i can see is the end of dependence on oil, so the arabs won`t get free cash to found terror and get back to camel hurding.


Take away their money and they cant fund the terrorists. I can only hope that we someday find a new fuel source.
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 10, 2006, 01:00:48 PM
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
how many of you belive that ww3 has already started and matters should be treated that way?


A little bit too early to hit that "panic button".
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Post by: Edbert1 on August 10, 2006, 01:06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Seagoon
I'm probably going to disappoint, but I think that the current conflict we are in is simply a continuation of the struggle that began with the birth of Islam in 611 AD.

A conflict which was itself born directly from Genesis 16, it is all right there in black and white. Very hard to interperet in any other way.

"He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility  toward all his brothers." - Genesis 16:12

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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
i think you`re absolutelly right.
the only solution i can see is the end of dependence on oil, so the arabs won`t get free cash to found terror and get back to camel hurding.

With all due respect, I do not beleive this is the solution that Seagoon speaks of. While desireable, it certainly is not the "final solution" that I await.
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Post by: AWMac on August 10, 2006, 01:08:36 PM
This is just the "Trailer" of the Movie yet to come.

Mac
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Post by: Hawco on August 10, 2006, 01:10:43 PM
Think the Zioinists and the Christian fundelmentalists on  here have been on the crack pipe again....
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Post by: DaYooper on August 10, 2006, 01:13:47 PM
Hey Russian, is that gun legal in the Peoples Republic of Kalivornia?
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Post by: Rolex on August 10, 2006, 01:27:55 PM
lukster:

What does Syria supply to Hezbollah?
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Post by: cpxxx on August 10, 2006, 01:32:43 PM
Columbian members of Hizbollah???????????????? Spanish speaking, catholics are members of an Islamic terrorist organisation?

Columbia???
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Post by: lukster on August 10, 2006, 01:46:08 PM
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Originally posted by Rolex
lukster:

What does Syria supply to Hezbollah?


Off the top of my head I would say money. I'm just about to start a job so I'll have to get back with you on some sources.
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Post by: Russian on August 10, 2006, 02:00:43 PM
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Originally posted by DaYooper
Hey Russian, is that gun legal in the Peoples Republic of Kalivornia?


Who said that pictures was taken in Socialist Republic of Kalifornia? ;)
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Post by: Charge on August 10, 2006, 02:04:26 PM
"He will be a wild donkey of a man"

Is that John Holmes?

I knew it! :D

-C+
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Post by: ghi on August 10, 2006, 03:20:59 PM
i belive WW3 started, but not full scale, yet kind of "1939",  must be followed by an islamic invasion in Europe
 

 See below, the total destruction of Vatican and Catholic church has been predicted,  

 The actual Pope Benedict is 80 years old, after his death 1 more/last pope
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Malachy's Prophecies - 112 Popes from the year 1143 to the end



 

8. The Labor of the Son. JOHN PAUL II. 1978-2005.).

9. The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.

10. PETER THE ROMAN - This final Pope will likely be Satan, taking the form of a man named Peter who will gain a worldwide allegiance and adoration. He will be the final antichrist which prophecy students have long foretold. If it were possible, even the very elect would be deceived. The 112th prophesy states: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End."

Malachy's final words, "Rome, the seat of the Vatican, will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people."
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Nostradamus - Quatrains---
 predicts also distruction of the Rome/Catholic church

Century 2, Quatrain 41

The great star will burn for seven days,
The cloud will cause two suns to appear:
The big mastiff will howl all night
When the great pontiff will change country.
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Post by: Charge on August 10, 2006, 03:29:33 PM
"The cloud will cause two suns to appear"

The mushroom cloud will bring the second sun... :confused:

-C+
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Post by: lukster on August 10, 2006, 06:21:30 PM
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Originally posted by Rolex
lukster:

What does Syria supply to Hezbollah?


Arms at least.

http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_16896.shtml
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Post by: Edbert1 on August 10, 2006, 06:25:31 PM
Reports just in are that Israel is pulling out of lebanon. Since Hez-ebola has been claiming to be the only Arab army to defeat Israel before the current flare-up this is only going to get worse if it is true.
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Post by: lasersailor184 on August 10, 2006, 06:38:08 PM
No.
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Post by: Sundowner on August 10, 2006, 08:56:57 PM
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
how many of you belive that ww3 has already started and matters should be treated that way?


Aye

Regards,
Sun
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Post by: Excel1 on August 11, 2006, 02:24:49 AM
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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
how many of you belive that ww3 has already started and matters should be treated that way?


no and no
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Post by: JB88 on August 11, 2006, 02:33:54 AM
im sorry, but i have to say this.  caligula was one of the worst movies ever made in the history of movies. ever.


there.  i feel better.


thank you.
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Post by: Excel1 on August 11, 2006, 02:58:18 AM
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Originally posted by Rolex
If your country attacks Syria, that could escalate quickly to something that will have the rest of the world glued to their TVs in disbelief.


Israel doesn’t want to attack Syria if it can help it. If they did, they run a big risk of destabilizing the Syrian regime and leaving the door open for  hezbolloh to move in. In such a scenario their problems with Lebanon would be small potatoes in comparison.
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Post by: Reynolds on August 11, 2006, 03:17:33 AM
Not to be a bigomist, but whoever invented Islam must have been damned good at brainwashing!
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Post by: Edbert1 on August 11, 2006, 07:25:15 AM
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Originally posted by JB88
im sorry, but i have to say this.  caligula was one of the worst movies ever made in the history of movies. ever.
 

But it has to be in second place for most boobies in a mainstream movie, does it get any credit for that?
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Post by: zorstorer on August 11, 2006, 07:48:05 AM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Not to be a bigomist.....



Sure you want to admit that ;)

So how many wives do you have?  :D

Also in statements like yours everything before the but it BS.  :noid
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 11, 2006, 07:56:38 AM
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Not to be a bigomist, but whoever invented Islam must have been damned good at brainwashing!


Bigomist!   Hang him!!!!   Wait we ran out of rope!!!!!   I wouldn't go that far, it's just that the "silent majority" of Islam ACCEPTS the extremists actions by remaining silent.
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Post by: FiLtH on August 11, 2006, 08:21:48 AM
Of course its ww3. The main difference is instaed of facing armies on a field of battle, we are facing cowards who hide under the skirts of old ladies, and try to make us look bad when we waste the old lady.

      We're beyond public opinion. Killing sucks, but better them than us.