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Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 15, 2006, 01:36:07 PM: Seems we need a sticky thread explaining this fallacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: Masherbrum on August 15, 2006, 01:50:27 PM: A "new found" term that will be used "Ad Nauseaum". No clicky on linky required.
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: Yeager on August 15, 2006, 01:53:26 PM: I saw an opportunity to make a point, but decided to pass on it when I realized there wasn't any point in making a point :rolleyes:
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: T0J0 on August 15, 2006, 02:04:08 PM: The fact your from CA funked pretty much negates your WIKI link :)

Did I word that right??

TJ
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 15, 2006, 03:13:15 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
A "new found" term that will be used "Ad Nauseaum". No clicky on linky required.

Dude it's Latin. It dates back hundreds if not thousands of years.
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 15, 2006, 03:13:49 PM: Quote
Originally posted by T0J0
The fact your from CA funked pretty much negates your WIKI link :)

Did I word that right??

TJ

That was perfect argumentum ad hominem, WTG. :)
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: GRUNHERZ on August 15, 2006, 06:34:59 PM: Dont think for a second that this BS will cover the fact that you're a teachers union card carrying commie and arent worth listening to.

;) Do I get an A+?
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: Holden McGroin on August 15, 2006, 06:43:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
;) Do I get an A+?

Not without proper use of the apostrophe....
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: lukster on August 15, 2006, 06:47:09 PM: Just because George Bush can't speak and may make poor decisions makes him a bad president.

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What about this one?
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: lukster on August 15, 2006, 06:51:02 PM: Here's one I'm sure of:

Ann Coulter is an idiot because she has an adams apple.
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 15, 2006, 06:56:13 PM: Quote
Originally posted by lukster
Just because George Bush can't speak and may make poor decisions makes him a bad president.

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What about this one?

That one doesn't work because public speaking and decision making are part of the job description of President. However if you were arguing with George over the merits of Ted Williams versus Joe DiMaggio, and you brought up his disastrous presidency, that would be argumentum ad hominem.
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: lukster on August 15, 2006, 07:29:03 PM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
That one doesn't work because public speaking and decision making are part of the job description of President. However if you were arguing with George over the merits of Ted Williams versus Joe DiMaggio, and you brought up his disastrous presidency, that would be argumentum ad hominem.

So, interpretation is a factor?
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: Toad on August 15, 2006, 07:53:55 PM: Don't forget to highlight that it is a logical fallacy; a flaw in the structure of a deductive argument which renders the argument invalid.

They are not necessarily the type of "attack" on someone that goes beyond the bounds of good taste.
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: john9001 on August 15, 2006, 08:04:41 PM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
that would be argumentum ad hominem.

i must call rule 16 (speak english)

but in doing so i have broken rule 6 ( no back seat monitors)

damm , i kant win, yous collage boys is jus too smart fer me.
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: lukster on August 15, 2006, 08:06:45 PM: My bottom line, no argument is a success unless it achieves it's goal. Sometimes that might be only to provoke.
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: Mini D on August 15, 2006, 08:16:52 PM: I think you should focus on just exactly what the word "messenger" means.
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: lukster on August 15, 2006, 08:27:12 PM: Some messengers deserve to be killed. Especially those that delight in their message or the instant variety. ;)
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: Masherbrum on August 15, 2006, 09:01:24 PM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
Dude it's Latin. It dates back hundreds if not thousands of years.

Yer preaching to the choir now FUNKED. Just relax man. <>
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: Sandman on August 15, 2006, 11:16:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by lukster
My bottom line, no argument is a success unless it achieves it's goal. Sometimes that might be only to provoke.

No shortage of provocative PNGs. ;)
Title: Argumentum Ad Hominem
Post by: lazs2 on August 16, 2006, 08:13:37 AM: 4- Members should post in a way that is respectful of other users and HTC. Flaming or abusing users is not tolerated.