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Special Events Forums => Scenario General => Topic started by: Brooke on August 16, 2006, 09:46:23 PM
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The dates and times of this four-frame scenario are not yet finalized. Frame 1 is estimated to be September 23rd. Frames are estimated to run on Saturdays at 3 pm Eastern US.
More information will be posted here as details become available.
--------------- Battle of Britain 2006 -------------------
It is July, 1940, and the fate of a nation is about to be decided.
Hitler has just given the order to begin preparation for Operation Sealion -- the invasion of Britain. France has fallen, the United States has not yet joined the war, and the Soviet Union is still Germany's ally. Britain stands alone.
The first order of battle is for the Luftwaffe to pave the way by destroying the Royal Air Force and pounding British infrastructure and cities. The Luftwaffe is mighty and skilled. The RAF is outnumbered, but it has the world's most advanced radar system -- and something just as important: an indestructible will to repel the Luftwaffe, no matter what the personal cost.
The Battle of Britain scenario will pit the RAF in its Hurricane Mk I's and Spitfire Mk I's against the Luftwaffe in its Bf 109E's, Bf 110C's, Ju 87's, and Ju 88's. The Luftwaffe will work to destroy all airfields, ports, and ships in the southeast of Britain. The RAF will do whatever it can to stop them.
The fate of Britain hangs in the balance.
Click here for the current version (not yet finalized) of the Battle of Britain 2006 rules writeup:
http://ahevents.org/site/images/stories/scenarios_images/200609_battleOfBritain/rules.htm
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Sounds like fun.....
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What will be used as the "rescue vehicle?" Jeeps?
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hmmm why BOB. BoB needs he111 + dorniers etc...
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Sounds really cool.
I will bring as many of my squad as possible to fly for GB.
The Few shall stand proud......
Also if you need any wing leaders shoot me an email.
Bruv
~S~
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I thought Pearl Harbor was next?? :huh
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I do recall mention of that
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Rescue Conditions
Pilots who return to tower upon landing will be considered lost.
Can I ask why this is... ?
Pilots will wait to be picked up by Boat or Vehicle or Transport aircraft or they will walk/swim to the nearest airfield, ship or port.
I just thought this was funny, I can see myself spending an hour swimming back to shore
Bailed pilots and rescue craft shall be considered inviolate and must not be attacked under any circumstances.
Just my opinion here, I will follow this rule but I dont agree with it....
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I got a suggestion...
Last time ('04) it was a re-write of history. All new rules, new leaders, etc. How about this time imposing the same restrictions as the LW had? Maybe just some of them. Things like fighters have to stay so close to the bombers. 110s need 109 escorts, etc (not that they do in AH2, but you know what I mean).
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Originally posted by mipoikel
hmmm why BOB. BoB needs he111 + dorniers etc...
:(
I mostly agree. The He111 and Do17 did most of the work in the BoB, but the Ju88A-1 was involved, just in smaller numbers. The Ju88A-4 went into combat service near the end of the BoB, so it's not like the Ju88A-4 is completely out of the time frame.
While it would be nice to have the variety of the He111 and Do17, the Ju88A-4 does the job well (perhaps a little too well, as it is tougher than the Ju88A-1.)
Even though it was very difficult to intercept and catch the Ju88A-4 the last time this was run (they have a tendency to dive for speed when they are spotted), I will still register to be a Spitfire Flight Lead. It was a lot of fun the last time!
OOZ, the last time it was run, the M-16 (I think, mighta been M-3) and C-47 were used for rescue vehicles.
edit: wow, that's a significant LW numbers advantage. 54 Hurris and 30 Spits vs 72 109s, 35 Ju88 formations, 16 110s, and 8 more 110s or 109s. Good luck getting 47 more people to WANT to fly Axis. :) There's gonna be some grumpy folks during registration on this one.
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If I recall they used c47 to spot, and PT to pick up. I might be in error here.
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Originally posted by Krusty
If I recall they used c47 to spot, and PT to pick up. I might be in error here.
Yup, I forgot about the PT's for downed pilots in the Channel.
Pilots who return to tower upon landing will be considered lost.
There is no way during the Frame for the CM to determine if the plane was damaged or not. So they assume the plane is damaged, and therefore counts as a lost plane.
All you have to do is call the rescue CM before you exit flight and you they will authenticate you to reup after T+60. This happened to several Spitfires in my flight that took oil leaks and had to land before reaching our home field.
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Originally posted by Nifty
Yup, I forgot about the PT's for downed pilots in the Channel.
Pilots who return to tower upon landing will be considered lost.
There is no way during the Frame for the CM to determine if the plane was damaged or not. So they assume the plane is damaged, and therefore counts as a lost plane.
All you have to do is call the rescue CM before you exit flight and you they will authenticate you to reup after T+60. This happened to several Spitfires in my flight that took oil leaks and had to land before reaching our home field.
CC I understand now Thanks
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Pearl is in December. This is something to do while the Pearl terrain is being finished :)
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Originally posted by ROC
Pearl is in December. This is something to do while the Pearl terrain is being finished :)
Do you guys have an idea of the start times of the frames, and if they will be on Saturday or Sunday?
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Originally posted by Nifty
Do you guys have an idea of the start times of the frames, and if they will be on Saturday or Sunday?
I heard Saturday but I don't make these decisions. This is what they look at.
10:00 PM Helsinki
9:00 PM Europe
8:00 PM UK
3:00 PM Eastern
2:00 PM Central
1:00 PM Mountain
12:00 PM Pacific
11:00 AM Anchorage
9:00 AM Hawaii
5:00 AM Melbourne/Sydney
Edit: see Brooks post at the top of this thread. Also, local daylight savings might mess with the table I posted here but I think most of us will be on standard time when it runs.
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Originally posted by Easyscor
5:00 AM Melbourne/Sydney
Ahem... 5:00 AM Melbourne/Sydney/BRISBANE
:furious
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As the germans have a massive number of 109E-4 and Ju88A-4...
RAF should get a squadron of Spit V's to simulate Mk I's with the 20mm Hispano flying out of duxford...
i will grudgingly volunteer to fly one... :)
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Originally posted by Nifty
OOZ, the last time it was run, the M-16 (I think, mighta been M-3) and C-47 were used for rescue vehicles.
Yes, but we didn't have the faster jeeps back then. Just seems like more of what they'd actually use; a jeep/car/motorcycle and not a halftrack/AA gun platform. But hey, it' up to you guys in the end.:aok
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Sounds like fun :) I'll have to figure out which side to fly for this time... Cannons or no cannons... This is the question :)
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I missed BOB '04 but I REALLY wanted to fly it. I think I might sign up for this one.
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mmm, well, if it's on Saturdays, it'll depend on if it's in September or October if I'll be able to attend most frames.
I vote Sept 23rd for Frame 1! :D
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May I STRONGLY urge an alt cap, or a massive wind layer at a certain altitude?
The last BoB scenario I did often had both sides at close to and above 40k feet. It really destroyed the whole scenario imho...
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Originally posted by Delirium
The last BoB scenario I did often had both sides at close to and above 40k feet. It really destroyed the whole scenario imho...
Happened in Fire Over Malta, too. I think that was the one that opened their eyes to the alt dweeb problem. E-4s, Stukas, 88s, HurriCs, and SpitVs all up at 35k...
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Originally posted by OOZ662
Happened in Fire Over Malta, too. I think that was the one that opened their eyes to the alt dweeb problem.
Obviously, it hasn't... no alt limit has been imposed so far.
I was a GL for BoB and it was so bad that any alt limits (or lack thereof) will definitely be the main factor in my decision to participate in this BoB.
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Originally posted by Delirium
Obviously, it hasn't... no alt limit has been imposed so far.
Obviously you didn't have your wind up on your clipboard for OpDF. 26k wind layer pushing down. It was intended to be an alt limiter, but wasn't strong enough from what I hear. At least they're trying.
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Originally posted by Delirium
The last BoB scenario I did often had both sides at close to and above 40k feet. It really destroyed the whole scenario imho...
Hmm. IIRC my Emil didn't climb too well above 25k, and was a brick at 30k. All the fights happened below 20k, at least the ones where I participated in did (edit: that's where the bombers were, maybe that's why). Malta had the fights a lot higher than the previous BoB did.
I'm looking forward to this one. In the BoB-04 I was in II/JG27, maybe it's time to try something else this time. Maybe I'll join a KG or a ZG, I guess the RAF will get enough personnel anyway, and all my squadmates are going to fly for the Luftwaffe anyway... :)
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Originally posted by OOZ662
Obviously you didn't have your wind up on your clipboard for OpDF. 26k wind layer pushing down.
And that wind layer was listed in the rules/settings on the event page, BoB states no such layer as of it.
Any questions? :)
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Originally posted by OOZ662
What will be used as the "rescue vehicle?" Jeeps?
PT Boats (for water) and C-47's (for land) are most likely.
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Originally posted by mipoikel
hmmm why BOB. BoB needs he111 + dorniers etc...
:(
As ROC noted, Pearl Harbor will run in December, and we wanted to run something between now and then that has been run before (so that we could get it going quickly) and that was very popular. BOB (despite lack of He 111's, etc.) has been very popular.
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Originally posted by Krusty
I got a suggestion...
Last time ('04) it was a re-write of history. All new rules, new leaders, etc. How about this time imposing the same restrictions as the LW had? Maybe just some of them. Things like fighters have to stay so close to the bombers. 110s need 109 escorts, etc (not that they do in AH2, but you know what I mean).
We want to introduce as few changes as possible to the rules that ran previously. This way, we can run the scenario on a quick schedule without risk of introducing anything unbalancing.
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Originally posted by Nifty
Do you guys have an idea of the start times of the frames, and if they will be on Saturday or Sunday?
Current best estimate is to run Saturdays 3 pm Eastern (maybe 4 pm Eastern) -- but times are not finalized yet.
Dates and times will be as noted here:
http://ahevents.org/site/content/view/122/153/
This is the "current or next scenario" information from ahevents.org.
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For folks wondering about changes:
In the scenario team, one of our goals is increasing the number of scenarios run per year. To do that, some of the scenarios will be new designs or reworkings of or improvements on past scenarios, and some will be re-runs with little or no changes, drawing from scenario designs that have proven themselves to be popular and balanced.
BOB has been one of the most popular scenarios. Also, in BOB 2004 (whose rule set we are using this time around), victory/defeat came down to the last bomber of the last mission of the last frame -- so it is also a well-balanced design.
This scenario, slated to start late September, needs to be one that we can set up and run with little change so that we can fit it in before the Pearl Harbor scenario in December.
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Originally posted by Delirium
Obviously, it hasn't... no alt limit has been imposed so far.
In the scenario team, we've talked a fair amount about altitude in scenarios, and we continue to talk about it. Newer scenario designs tend to have things in them that in some way limit alt (downwind in Operation Downfall representing the jet stream as well as horizontal wind that limits alt at which precision bombing can be done; visibility and horizontal wind in Stalin's Fourth making bombers useless above about 6k and lots of ground attack; and so on).
As for this one, it's not that the scenario team (or anyone else for that matter) doesn't notice and realize implications of no alt limits. It's that there are reasons such as the previous post.
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For folks who are interested in pictorials and after-action reports of the action in Battle of Britain 2004, to see what it was like, here is a link for you:
http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/scenarios/battle_britain_2004/battle_britain_2004.htm
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BOB 2004 went off really well . with just a few changes to the original setup .
Were going to use Jeeps, c-47s, pt boats for rescue , there will be the gents rule of leaving them and downed pilots alone .
We are fixing a few things so the pilots have a better chance at a decient rescue time ...
Roo story hour:
Back in my FA days we had a LW 109 pilot that flew with his Grandaughter every once and a while . One of my Squadies got a chance to interview Him about The Battle of Britain . (Bruv may remember this ) ...He Said while on a mission one time, He and His Wingman"Came across a lone Spitfire ,,, Flying along level . They came up on His 6 and the spit didnt evade or even flinch .." As He pulled up along the spits 9 oc he noticed the Spit pilot was "asleep at the stick " Being just as worn out as the British pilots He decided to let him rest and head for home ."
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Ah Rosco!
You remember that free BofB arena back in 2.5 ?
With the AI controlled German formations flying over.
Got me hooked there was an unused field in northern france there were 3 of us that used to land on it and take off and kill the germans before they got over to the water. A guy called Barlow, mack and myself. We called it the 119 squadron the flying devils lol. Well thats where my numbers in my name came from....
Barlow let me use his account to play in the other arenas to get his rank up after I managed to kill 12 109 drones on just me in a hurricane (which was quite a feat!) Then that was me addicted for life.......
Will be a great run down memory lane for me in this scenario and when I take off down that runway with my whole squadron in tow it may jerk a tear. :cry
You guys in 109's better watch out your going to get hurt :)
Bruv
The Few CO
~S~
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Remember the 12 hour long BOB with 2 lives every 2 hours ? I bet i logged 8 hrs of that .
BOB '04 was great here .. I flew as GL of a Hurri scout squadron . we had a blast even with the long hour plus of scouting ...the emersion value was great.:D
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What did they call that Operation Thunder or something. For some reason a squad that I had joined TEA The Empire Aces were flying for Germany!!!
The shame !! anyway ended up really high engaging fighter escorts for the b17's the 190 A-4 was my ride and I got 2 kills but we got our arses kicked by those mustangs and I think I was the only one from my squad to limp back from our engagement alive....
Am really excited about this event and looking forward to it,
The MA has got a bit stale recently and this sounds like a taste of what CT may be like.
Bruv
~S~
PS: your welcome to fly with us or try and get a joint squad fighter sweep together will be like old times...
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An insane down wind layer would be a bad idea. The Ju88's could park right on the wind layer, and the RAF would have a hard time getting above the Ju88s. Setting multiple layers of stiff horizontal winds above some given alt, might throw off accuracy of level bombing enough to entice the Ju88s to not play the alt monkey game.
:)
Of course, most of them weren't alt monkeying in BoB 2004. Some did, but most were not.
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Were there not some cind of fog/mist setting in BoB 2004.
I was in a sq110´s tasked with dive bomb missions on RAF hangars/radar first then going as fighter cover and we could not see ground from 25k so when diving in on fields (as located on map) we didnt know what was waiting for us down there, hell we even had trouble finding the airfields sometimes.
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Originally posted by Nifty
An insane down wind layer would be a bad idea. The Ju88's could park right on the wind layer, and the RAF would have a hard time getting above the Ju88s. Setting multiple layers of stiff horizontal winds above some given alt, might throw off accuracy of level bombing enough to entice the Ju88s to not play the alt monkey game.
:)
Of course, most of them weren't alt monkeying in BoB 2004. Some did, but most were not.
A loaded Ju88 has a hard time reaching 15k, can barely function at 20k. If you set the wind at 25-30K there's still the ability to attack from above.
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Originally posted by Krusty
A loaded Ju88 has a hard time reaching 15k, can barely function at 20k. If you set the wind at 25-30K there's still the ability to attack from above.
your wrong krusty ...sorry
we've been cruising at 20k in 88's for a long time with no problem getting there , come play CE on sunday .
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A thin cloud layer every 5k worked fine in Stalin's ... IMHO. One could still bomb through 2 layers, but from 3 it was far more difficult and from 4 quite impossible, IIRC.
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
your wrong krusty ...sorry
we've been cruising at 20k in 88's for a long time with no problem getting there , come play CE on sunday .
I'll give it a try, if I'm not helping Bat make a Jug film at the time.
I was going by past experience. I've tried to get fully loaded Ju88 up high before. Above 15k it didn't want to do anything. I've only barely got one to 20k before and it was doing 100fpm climb.
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Can't wait. BoB '04 was the best scenario I've been in thus far.
FEAR THE EMIL
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I'm sure you meant "FEAR THE 110"?
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So how does the patch work if you re-use a scenario later? I'm sure there was a patch for BOB'04, but you don't want to re-use it. Do you go through the process of redesigning it (to give an entirely new patch) or do you just change the date on the old patch (to recycle it)?
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There was no patch for BoB 2004. I started doing them for Rangoon, '42. I had plans to go back and do one for BoB 2004, but in doing them for all the following scenarios, didn't quite get around to it.
I'll ponder doing one for BoB 2004 at the same time as BoB 2006.
As for patch designs, we basically have been opening it up for designs from players and see what we get.
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I'm planning to be in BOB'06, maybe I'll try my hand at patch design.
Quick question: In another thread you mentioned ordering 200 patches. Is that how many you think folks will take, or is that the minimum order size?
I was idly thinking about whether you could make a different patch for each side (one for LW, one for RAF), but I'm not 100% sure how it works on your end.
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Less than 200, and the cost per patch starts to go up a lot. Also, two patches for one scenario is twice the work and nearly double the cost, so I'd much rather stay with one design for all.
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no worries, was just brainstorming :)
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Damn. I have to have the 303rd oporational by then?!? Um... we will fly for germany in the Ju-88s. There should be between 8 and 16 of us.
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I'll have to resubscribe for this one.Looks like it is going to be lots of fun.
Now i have a few questiones.I have been reading rules on the ahevents.org and have questions about rescuing pilots.
Are going to be able to sign up as pt boat drivers and how many slots are there for pts?
Are there going to be pts for both axis and allies or are they going to be neutral?
How are we going to be able to locate downed pilots on sea.sounds pretty though as la manche on 512x512 map is big area.
What happens if we have too many downed pilots on the sea and only few pts that are already carrying downed pilots? Do they have to wait for their turn, wich might take very long until a pt takes the first pilot to land and comes back.
Can pt drivers and their passangers shoot at enemies?
thanks
duh
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Duh, as far as locatiing, once our ordenance is gone, the 303rd can spot for you, keeping at a nice altitude and looking through the quiet areas.
Also, since I cannot get a force available in time, would anyone like to temporarily augment our bomber group? (How many were in a german squadron?)
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pt's and other rescue vehicles .
a single rescue can pick up more then just one pilot .
when they reach pilot they call for verification by using the grid/number pad system . AE. 10.10.6.1 <--- the 6 is the number on pad ,the 1 is exact location within the number 6 of the 10.10 grid on the map .
A CM Will come verify at this time.
There will be a seperate Radio Freq/channel just for rescue ops .
after verifcation the downed pilot can return to tower and reup .
the rescue vehicles are not allowed to shoot at nme ... just as they are not to shoot at rescue vehicles.
(There wasnt a patch for BoB 04 ... I just received the Stalins patches so if you want one get your order into Brooke's Paypal. )
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
a single rescue can pick up more then just one pilot .
Hmm, rules say the bailed pilot once spotted by pt will tower, then join the boat.Will the other pilots pretend to be in the boat?
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Originally posted by duh
Hmm, rules say the bailed pilot once spotted by pt will tower, then join the boat.Will the other pilots pretend to be in the boat?
thats from ver 1 rules that was ammended in frame 2 due to the time factor .
Brooke and I meet last night and We went over the Rescue portion and It will get amended soon .
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Whatever you decide sing me up for allied pts as soon as registration is open;)
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when we open regestration ... just sign up for a squad .
most rescue ops are done by the players that get killed . this gives everyone something to do during the frame... the Allied get to play rescue .. The Axis get to join as gunners .... See how it works out :D
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Also, for this scenario to happen, we need CO's. If you would like to volunteer or know of someone who would be good in the role, please read the "CO's needed" topic.
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so i do have to fly a plane after all.Hehe i thought i can just fool around in my boat and watch the planes fighting;)
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Radar ranges and sector counter ranges can now both be tower based and set to differing ranges and minimum thresholds...............
This way you could simulate chain high and chain low radar.
chain high could be less accurate sector counters at a longer range and higher floor threshold
chain low could be shorter more accurate dot radar for final vectoring.....
Re altitudes.................
The game play and objectives was such that any LW bomber force spending time climbing to ALWAYS achieve altitude superiority will not have sufficient mission time for two missions per frame.............. and to achieve victory conditions with one bombing mission per frame was very difficult.
Constantly patroling RAF squadrons had fuel problems.............. and so were often climbing to meet the opposition even later in the frame.
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Do not EG groups for LW have a 2nd life?
From BoB Rules site
1) JG & ZG gruppen may not carry bombs but have 2nd lives as Ju87 Pilots.
2) EG &KG gruppen may carry full bomb loads . KG gruppen will have 2nd lives as Ju88 Pilots
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I am pleased to announce our Commanding Officers for Battle of Britain 2006.
RAF CO: Major Biggles (formerly Pooface)
Luftwaffe CO: Krusty
General description is here (including the link to the rules):
http://ahevents.org/site/content/view/122/153/
Registration is now open here:
http://ahevents.org/site/component/option,com_staticxt/Itemid,165/
Gentlemen, we have a battle!
We will open the Battle of Britain 2006 forums soon.
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Please rethink the rescue verrification, last time 2 cms werent sufficiant to witness the rescuing without a verry frustrating long waiting time on the ground.
Can you have 1 or 2 more "rescue verrification officers" ?
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Originally posted by Schutt
Please rethink the rescue verrification, last time 2 cms werent sufficiant to witness the rescuing without a verry frustrating long waiting time on the ground.
Can you have 1 or 2 more "rescue verrification officers" ?
Completely agree with this. All of my pilots who used the rescue rules, as well as others I heard on range channel, were made to wait quite a long time before the rescue CM could come and verify.
The only smooth rescue I recall is when I called the CM before I landed a C47 to pick someone up. The CM got there just as I was pulling up to the guy.
I don't blame the CMs at all, they had a lot of requests to go verify. They just needed a few other CMs to help them.
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The way to speed it up would be to allow bailed pilots over friendly land territory to just land and be safe. After all, the militaries of each side were not wasting their limited SAR on pilots landing on golf courses.
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IIRC part of the reason for using only 2 CMs was to imitate the amount of time an actual rescue and return to flight status would take. The designers didn't want MA a style reups. The draw back was the PT boat rescues. It took to long to get to the downed pilot and return him to a friendly base. This was fixed in frame 2 by eliminating the return to a friendly base
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I'm really looking forward to this :)
Hard decision which side to fly for though..
but i think i want revenge for the two 109s ganging on me :p
I hope i can get my spitty again.. last time was a blast.
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Originally posted by 68falcon
IIRC part of the reason for using only 2 CMs was to imitate the amount of time an actual rescue and return to flight status would take. The designers didn't want MA a style reups. The draw back was the PT boat rescues. It took to long to get to the downed pilot and return him to a friendly base. This was fixed in frame 2 by eliminating the return to a friendly base
You do remember correctly............ a natural delay which was longer should there be more demand also provided a disinsentive to folk bailing at the first opportunity.............
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Poo This will be my first event in AH and it looks like Brooke has landed you with a BIG responsibility.
My squad would want to be in the thick of it so pencil us in for the front line Spits hopefully but nothing against the Hurricane.
If you need any assistance PM me......
Bruv
The Few CO
~S~
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Originally posted by Bruv119
Poo This will be my first event in AH and it looks like Brooke has landed you with a BIG responsibility.
My squad would want to be in the thick of it so pencil us in for the front line Spits hopefully but nothing against the Hurricane.
If you need any assistance PM me......
Bruv
The Few CO
~S~
bruv for your immediate support. infact, a PM is already on it's way to you ;)
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303BG will take the 109s. Expect some spits to burn... :t
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Krusty, oh goodstrong one, you are mine and I plan on hanging your scalp on my wall :D
ummm so how much do the patches cost per person?
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Originally posted by Reynolds
303BG will take the 109s. Expect some spits to burn... :t
furball, and, also, I will be waiting for you reynolds, bring it on (enter raspberry blowing tongue thingy here, hint hint skuzzy!)
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Emil... drooool
Must kill spits with Emil... drooooool
Sign me up for one, but I can't commit to every frame. Stupid work schedule. :(
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Originally posted by Brooke
There was no patch for BoB 2004. I started doing them for Rangoon, '42. I had plans to go back and do one for BoB 2004, but in doing them for all the following scenarios, didn't quite get around to it.
I'll ponder doing one for BoB 2004 at the same time as BoB 2006.
As for patch designs, we basically have been opening it up for designs from players and see what we get.
for the first time, i would be very interested in going for the patches, delivery to the UK ok for a slightly higher price?
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Hi Brook,
Sorry, I no longer fly in AH, only IL-2 like most of the other Firebirds.
I am glad to see that you are keeping the Radar Controller principle we used last time.
Good luck with the scenario,
klem
56 Sqdn RAF "Firebirds" (virtual)
http://firebirds.2ndtaf.org.uk/index.htm
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Dichotomy, sadly I'll be behind the lines or in a rescue craft, something tame. COs are often far too busy to fly!
Patches run on average $2.50 (USD) each. The process usually takes a few months.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Dichotomy, sadly I'll be behind the lines or in a rescue craft, something tame. COs are often far too busy to fly!
Patches run on average $2.50 (USD) each. The process usually takes a few months.
cool, so a decent donation of £10 (what, 18/19 dollars) should be a good enough donation? :). as for me krusty, i'm going to try and fly while giving orders, although im sure it's going to severely affect my flying hehe.
also, brooke, if you need any help with any photoshop work for the patches, i would again, be happy to help :)
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I started Stalins Patch mail this week end .. The Squirrels are licking envelopes now :p
The U.S. local post will start going out tommorrow and the Oversea's mail will go out probely mid week (Mrs Roo has to do an ebay mail, so she'll do it then also )
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1 pound is about 1.8 USD right about now Biggs. You'd need to send about half the US rate, but check a conversion tool for the exact price. Actually, Paypal might allow you to convert for a small fee, so that could save you some time.
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Originally posted by Tilt
You do remember correctly............ a natural delay which was longer should there be more demand also provided a disinsentive to folk bailing at the first opportunity.............
That's an artificial delay. The natural delay comes from the downed player getting another player on his/her team to get a rescue vehicle out to the downed player. The frustration came from waiting for the rescuer to show up, then having to wait longer for the CM to show up and verify (sometimes it took over 10 minutes for the CM to show up.)
It's not so much the downed pilot you're making wait, it's the rescuer you're making wait too.
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Im looking foreward to having a reason to bail out now! Now lets only hope those brits dont shoot us on the way down...
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*Psst!* Reynolds! You're not supposed to WANT to lose your ride!
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Originally posted by Krusty
Dichotomy, sadly I'll be behind the lines or in a rescue craft, something tame. COs are often far too busy to fly!
Patches run on average $2.50 (USD) each. The process usually takes a few months.
Best of luck to you bro...
I mean that :D
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you're just saying that to psyche me out!
But you knew that'd psyche me out! But you must have known that I'd know that you'd psyche me out!
So knowing that I know, would you be trying to psyche me out? Or would you know that I'd know that you'd know that I know?
you're just saying that to psyche me out!
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Originally posted by Reynolds
Im looking foreward to having a reason to bail out now! Now lets only hope those brits dont shoot us on the way down...
if your Axis you dont want to lose your ride ... Exspecially over England or over the channel ... there no way to even think about a rescue and you'll be a prisoner of war .... (I hear the English have ways to make you talk ) :D
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They pull out *shudder*.... The Big Book of British Smiles *shudder*
Made poor Ralph cry in terror.
For this abuse of the Geneva Convention we will invade you and remove your ability to torture innocent warriors with your heinous dentistry!
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Originally posted by Krusty
*Psst!* Reynolds! You're not supposed to WANT to lose your ride!
LOL. And yet I keep having to press that pretty button... [Prays to model of a 109E on desk]
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Originally posted by Nifty
(sometimes it took over 10 minutes for the CM to show up.)
It's not so much the downed pilot you're making wait, it's the rescuer you're making wait too.
Quite true .....
And some times the CM was called to a bailed pilot when the rescuer was not even there yet! so while the CM waited so did everyone else.
Its not perfect......... a rescue option would be nice for such scenarios but it does not exist. The second incarnation which just required the rescuer to reach the bailed pilot and get a CM to witness it worked better than the original where the plane/vehicle/boat had to rtb with a "joined" pilot.
However the CM delay was appropriate to the game play and it eliminated the benefits of any abuse.
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Posted on TFC Squadron Forum about registering most of the Squad.
However....most of us feel that an alt cap would be a good idea.
Don't know if I would want to play with an unrestricted cap. Don't think LW fighters had the fuel to climb to 30K, engage and rtb. And also don't think the RAF would have the time to climb to that alt to intercept.
Just a thought.
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Well except for scouts I don't think the RAF can scramble until they get dar contacts.
My only problem with this is the dar has a 50 mile range -- which means the second any 109E takes off across the channel they'll be spotted and the RAF can scramble. That's kinda counter-productive to a big escorted bobmer raid, if the enemy takes off the same time you do.
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Originally posted by Krusty
My only problem with this is the dar has a 50 mile range -- which means the second any 109E takes off across the channel they'll be spotted and the RAF can scramble. That's kinda counter-productive to a big escorted bobmer raid, if the enemy takes off the same time you do.
Reality isn't fair. :)
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Originally posted by Krusty
Well except for scouts I don't think the RAF can scramble until they get dar contacts.
My only problem with this is the dar has a 50 mile range -- which means the second any 109E takes off across the channel they'll be spotted and the RAF can scramble. That's kinda counter-productive to a big escorted bobmer raid, if the enemy takes off the same time you do.
well then you as the axis CO order them to roll outside of radar range. oops, i didnt just say that!
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Problem is that (for first frame) 90% of my 109E fields are in the same spot. Can't move any til in between frames.
EDIT: Don't worry about me, though, hehehehe, worry about the RAF. I've got plans inside plans!
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Well, the 303rd has 3 pilots in Emils...
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Cool. Be sure to let me know which guys are in your squad. I don't think you'd specified one when you registered (you have to go into your profile and set it). If you let me know I can try to keep you grouped.
And for the RAF-minded amongst us...
Extra! Extra! Read all about it! British PM wears Depends(TM)!
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LOL!!! :rofl
And my squad thats coming is so far:
Flyboy97 (Dont think he registered yet)
MajAndy
me
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Folks, remember that this one -- with exactly the same rules -- ran before. The large majority of people liked it (although you can't please everyone with every detail), and the outcome came down to the last bomb run of the last bomber of the last mission of the last frame.
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I signed up so i could (repeatedly) shoot down Furball.
Saw (Baron vonLederhosen)
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Originally posted by Saintaw
I signed up so i could (repeatedly) shoot down Furball.
Saw (Baron vonLederhosen)
Ya mean just before you collide with his wreck ?
or just before augering ?
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Doesn't matter, as long as he kills furball before he goes!
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Straffo, get it right!
I will aim at him, miss him with the bullets but will succeed in colliding with him right before i auger while singing my version of "cucaracha" to you on vox.
:)
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Note to self: Squelch vox...
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Now I'm hurt!
My version of the "Cucaracha" (taught to me by RAM) has been famous in AH since 1999. It is your duty as my officer to endure... :D
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*shudder*
I'll listen ONLY if you land a mortal blow on Furball. If you just take an aileron off or a rudder, I'm squelching you. You need to remove a wing, engine, tail, or something vital. Deal?
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Deal :D
*starts to vocalise*
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wow. Im still sorely tempted to sign up for a bomber, but alas, it is too late, and I do not have the pilots... :confused:
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
if your Axis you dont want to lose your ride ... Exspecially over England or over the channel ... there no way to even think about a rescue and you'll be a prisoner of war .... (I hear the English have ways to make you talk ) :D
ya they make you eat English food :D
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I have upped the allied registration numbers of Battle of Britain 2006 by one (to account for the fact that one registrant there is my test registration).
So, the allies have room for one more pilot.
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Axis still have about 60 slots left! :lol
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that's cause you're the 'bad' guys (http://www.capitalj.com/images/yahoo/18.gif)
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nah, it's because the RAF is the glamorous side. "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few."
Though really, it's not like the Axis numbers are lagging behind in totals. only 5 behind. Just lots more slots to fill overall for the Axis. :)
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I'm guessing that Allied slots won't be expanded?
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I have a total of 11 pilots in my squad. I will try to get them all signed up for BoB.
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I can't wait this looks like great fun and will be my first event. I hope I don't suck to bad:aok
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This is shaping up for a great couple of frames, My only fear is that it descends into some low level mindless furball midway over the channel, God I hope not....:noid
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It doesn't work that way hawco. This is a limited life scenario. You can land safely at your home field and reup, but if you die, if you go down/ditch, if you tower out at a field other than your home field, you cannot reup*. This isn't your MA horde :)
* = Bombers have 2 lives. Fighters that lose their ride have a second life as a Ju87, but that's a different mission profile from their previous fighter sortie.
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Originally posted by Hawco
This is shaping up for a great couple of frames, My only fear is that it descends into some low level mindless furball midway over the channel, God I hope not....:noid
This is an emersion value scenario ... Its one of the very best put together for this . Everyone will do there best to stay alive ..... shure you might get hit/shot up ... but isnt half the fun landing a well ventilated plane :D you can get another one as long as you landed /or bailed out and got rescued ....
you wont see a mindless furball and the chute killing that you see in the Main .
Think of this as a chance to re-play History and I can guarentee that You will enjoy this .
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ummmm.... I thought I was registered for this event....
- no email of assigned squad
- no idea when practicing
- just realized the date
- I haven't a clue just in general
:huh
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Nobody told you? You are the CO! I thought things were going swimmingly :)